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Yakikorosu
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Facultyadjutant
Sweden1876 Posts
On November 07 2013 07:59 Yakikorosu wrote: I also think casters are hugely important, but I have to say the OP is incredibly silly. By your standards, Tasteless is a better caster than Apollo, Rotterdam, Khaldor, etc, which is absolutely ridiculous. There CAN BE casters where their accent is SO heavy that it interferes with casting, like in the case of Kelly when she briefly casted for GOM. And sure, having a particularly pleasing voice can be a nice bonus (I always thought Doa had a very good voice for casting). But really, we should be focused on casters that add (1) excitement and (2) insight with their commentary, not on how low their voice is or what kind of accent they have. This is like the ridiculous posts in the Proleague commentary thread where people were saying that the biggest problem with the Proleague casters is their makeup and what outfits they wear. Because, you know, who needs knowledge and insight when you can stare longingly at casters' eyeliner and stylish shirt, amirite? We should be focusing on all things of course, but we can't handle them all at one time? Just like every other industry, people in starcraft who picks casters - up and coming or established - should work out objective criterias for casters. This has already been done in other industries, from hockey to football; remember that the majority of our casters come to their point trough contacts and a general acceptance of the public. But we have a huge blindspot in those casters we don't know; there is no reason that there aren't better casters out there, an objective view on what makes a caster good and one is to objectively view the voice . | ||
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bypLy
757 Posts
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JacobShock
Denmark2485 Posts
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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SamuelGreen
Sweden292 Posts
If there are two casters of equal skill in knowledge but one has an heavy accent while the other speaks clear who is going to be most liked? It's kind of obivous. It's ofcourse about personal preference but more so about the preference of the majority. | ||
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Ketch
Netherlands7285 Posts
The rest, as other said..... I dunno Kev... | ||
JustPassingBy
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TyrantPotato
Australia1541 Posts
Please tell me how someone sounds without an accent? Nvm that was an ignorant comment. I 100% agree casting would be better if done using microsoft sam, casting completely void of accents should be the norm. Hows that sound? | ||
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JacobShock
Denmark2485 Posts
On November 07 2013 18:30 TyrantPotato wrote: Accents............... Please tell me how someone sounds without an accent? Nvm that was an ignorant comment. I 100% agree casting would be better if done using microsoft sam, casting completely void of accents should be the norm. Hows that sound? I 100% support your point, however I might actually tune in once for a game casted by Microsoft Sam that sounds dope. | ||
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Dismay
United States1180 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
 I love their accent and I don't care which it is. English teacher in the company where I work is from Wales. He has gorgeous accent.So I hope nobody important will listen to OP. Sorry man, I am the most important person in the world(from my point of view :D) | ||
nimdil
Poland3748 Posts
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
Artosis is pretty much the only regular caster without accent who is also good. Seriously, give me ToD over Husky any day, what kills it for me is screaming, overhype, random loud noises during major engagements rather than calmly talking about what is actually happening, "funny" jokes, saying plain dumb shit. | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
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maartendq
Belgium3115 Posts
On November 07 2013 19:02 Squat wrote: I guess we'll never know until we actually get some people with standard english accents who also happen to be good casters. Maybe technical knowledge is not considered essential in other venues and sports, but in Esports you get ripped to shreds, and rightfully so, if you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Artosis is pretty much the only regular caster without accent who is also good. Seriously, give me ToD over Husky any day, what kills it for me is screaming, overhype, random loud noises during major engagements rather than calmly talking about what is actually happening, "funny" jokes, saying plain dumb shit. There is no such thing as a "standard English accent". Artosis has a very distinct American accent, so does Tasteless, Husky, inControl and every other caster from the US. Kaelaris, Redeye and Apollo are very British. | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
On November 07 2013 19:07 Heartland wrote: What I think is problematic about this post is that Facultyadjutant seems to believe that there is some sort of objective truth that we can calculate with some form of science. Science just doesn't work that way, particularly if we're doing social sciences. There can be clues, ideas, guesses and so on but to posit that there is a "right" way to cast in the face of the evidence that popular casters have different accents/voices is just deeply flawed. Math (science) can find patterns in anything/everything. The question is, does the pattern hold true. You might disagree with some of what is said, but there's a LOT of truth to it. There's a lot of argument about "accents" and it's mostly about semantics: easy to understand > hard to understand. What the OP describes is almost "caster mechanics". Many casters are popular despite not having "the best mechanics". Popularity doesn't mean they'll continue to be the best for mainstream casting... I'm also unsure if the OP's resources refer to studies based on ADULT fans/viewers. The eSports fanbase could actually have different preferences. | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
On November 07 2013 19:27 y0su wrote: Math (science) can find patterns in anything/everything. The question is, does the pattern hold true. You might disagree with some of what is said, but there's a LOT of truth to it. There's a lot of argument about "accents" and it's mostly about semantics: easy to understand > hard to understand. What the OP describes is almost "caster mechanics". Many casters are popular despite not having "the best mechanics". Popularity doesn't mean they'll continue to be the best for mainstream casting... I'm also unsure if the OP's resources refer to studies based on ADULT fans/viewers. The eSports fanbase could actually have different preferences. Well, you sort of answered yourself there. Does the pattern hold true? We don't have any evidence to suggest that. If there is some actual research to support these points I'd like to see it and go through it. Otherwise it's just vague talk that should make anyone who's studied scientific methodology and method wary. | ||
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