On October 30 2013 19:44 TheSayo182 wrote: so at the moment we have 9 teams in proleague?
kt - skt - stars - jin - cj - galaxy - im - mvp - prime
interesting situation at this point, if you want to have an even number of team
The problem with the teams as is though is that there is a fairly massive power divide in terms of talent between KT SKT IM MVP and the rest of the proleague. Prime does have Maru and a few very good player so they are probably the 5th best team but those 4 are just far and away outclassing the rest.
Edit: I forgot CJ but I have not been keeping up with them so im not sure where they fall.
Would they ever consider an NFL style draft and split current teams up?
That's something that only works in fantasy sports. Not real sports.
About Prime being the 5th best team: I don't know--I actually think Prime is the weakest team right now. Yeah, they have Maru and... who else? ByuN and Creator have been mediocre at best since HotS came out, MKP is gone, and there's really no one else but rookies. At least WJS will still have Soulkey and sOs, and Jin Air and CJ have multiple solid players each, if no big stars, like Savage, TRUE, herO, EffOrt, etc...
Edit: Forgot Samsung--they're much like CJ and JA with RorO, Shine, Reality, etc...
Prime and WJS would obviously have to recruit multiple players (please get Genius!), and hopefully they are at least solid players like the ones AZUBU recruit (Center, Vines, RagnaroK) and not like the guys on SouL (HwangSin, SSanaEE) that are often just kind of embarassing to watch.
I honestly don't know who JinAir has left and I would take Byun Creator and Maru over Soulkey SoS and then nothing. That's the core problem actually with all the teams but the four I listed and that's that they have zero depth.
On October 31 2013 07:19 XaCez wrote: Proleague is one the few things I still find interesting in the StarCraft II scene. I am very pleased over this; more-so because the LoL Proleague is finally coming to fruition.
As someone said before i think they will have the LoL- and Sc2 Proleague on the same day. They will start with sc2 and after the matches lol will continue. (probably even the same teams, even if the two leagues dont interact with each other). That way sc2 will finally get a bigger audience too, even if its only cause of lol, but i guess that doesnt matter, it can only help sc2 in the long run i think.
I'm not sure how all the broadcasting rights work and who's getting along with who right now over there, but I hope they have GOM doing at least the english broadcasts with the casters we know and love. The last proleague's english broadcasts were just not on par with what GOM has been giving us for the last few years.
On October 31 2013 07:43 DethAdder wrote: I'm not sure how all the broadcasting rights work and who's getting along with who right now over there, but I hope they have GOM doing at least the english broadcasts with the casters we know and love. The last proleague's english broadcasts were just not on par with what GOM has been giving us for the last few years.
I dont really care who casts, yes of course good casters can add to the experience but if you need casters to enjoy the game then something is wrong with the game. The game should be able to stand on its own. We followed pro BW for over 10 years listening to Korean casters on shitty quality restreams. SC2 community dont know how good they have it and they still complain. When Flash would play Jaedong in BW I would just full screen that shit, ignore chat, ingore live threads and just get lost in the game...SC2 needs to get to that level so that you dont need tastosis going off on tangents on random shit to keep the viewers entertained.
All I want is for people to turn out and support the teams like back in the BW days, the most depressing shit for me last year was all the empty chairs.
On October 31 2013 07:43 DethAdder wrote: I'm not sure how all the broadcasting rights work and who's getting along with who right now over there, but I hope they have GOM doing at least the english broadcasts with the casters we know and love. The last proleague's english broadcasts were just not on par with what GOM has been giving us for the last few years.
I dont really care who casts, yes of course good casters can add to the experience but if you need casters to enjoy the game then something is wrong with the game. The game should be able to stand on its own. We followed pro BW for over 10 years listening to Korean casters on shitty quality restreams. SC2 community dont know how good they have it and they still complain. When Flash would play Jaedong in BW I would just full screen that shit, ignore chat, ingore live threads and just get lost in the game...SC2 needs to get to that level so that you dont need tastosis going off on tangents on random shit to keep the viewers entertained.
All I want is for people to turn out and support the teams like back in the BW days, the most depressing shit for me last year was all the empty chairs.
I hope they at least have an easy-to-access Korean cast this time around. I'm tired on relying on VLC links or that Naver Sports streaming site. They're usually quite laggy and unreliable compared to the English stream, which I did end up subscribing to to support SPL.
I'm just one of those types that prefers Korean casts once in a while for any game, SC2, DotA2, or even LoL.
On October 31 2013 07:43 DethAdder wrote: I'm not sure how all the broadcasting rights work and who's getting along with who right now over there, but I hope they have GOM doing at least the english broadcasts with the casters we know and love. The last proleague's english broadcasts were just not on par with what GOM has been giving us for the last few years.
I dont really care who casts, yes of course good casters can add to the experience but if you need casters to enjoy the game then something is wrong with the game. The game should be able to stand on its own. We followed pro BW for over 10 years listening to Korean casters on shitty quality restreams. SC2 community dont know how good they have it and they still complain. When Flash would play Jaedong in BW I would just full screen that shit, ignore chat, ingore live threads and just get lost in the game...SC2 needs to get to that level so that you dont need tastosis going off on tangents on random shit to keep the viewers entertained.
All I want is for people to turn out and support the teams like back in the BW days, the most depressing shit for me last year was all the empty chairs.
Is it possible to enjoy watching a game with crappy casters or no casters? Yes, but frankly I have better things to entertain myself with than just watching SC2 replays (which is what a VOD without good casting is). Good casting adds a LOT of enjoyment to me, and frankly without casting, I think no one but super-hardcore fans would follow SC2 at all. I definitely agree that Proleague needs to step it up and get some better English casters for next season. Let's be clear, by "good casting" I mean insightful and passionate casters. Tastosis going off on tangents isn't good casting. It's BAD casting.
On October 31 2013 04:30 DavidDiamond wrote: Really, the big thing for me is seeing nestea be revived by prologue, constant play and bo1 format when it does come will be perfect for nestea to craft ingenious beautiful games of starcraft, the games I still haven't let go and that I've yet to see other players replicate. Even if it's just one game through out the entire season, which I personally think we'll see a lot more just from sheer quantity. Here's to hoping nestea can gives a glimpse to newer audiences just exactly why he has a legend to his name.
I doubt we'd see much, if any, of Nestea in proleague given they have players that are performing much better than him consistently. It's kind of strange, Nestea was played once in GSTL throughout the entirety of last season. That one time, he all-killed NSH (not exactly what I'd call a super difficult thing to do but still Jjakji). Other than that, not played at all.
But that's the thing, I even thought from way back the format will negate a lot of nesteas problems. The dudes a genius, rather then being thrown out randomly in gsl in terms of who he plays, proleague when the 7 format preplaced players, im has a lot of wiggle room for extras. If nestea can just practice for one match for a couple of weeks, with help from the team, cause you know im is gunning to win it all, I just think we can see great things from the professor. Maybe he wont be in form, but maybe we can see a couple of really great games of sc, that good old mind being put to work. I hope so
Of course, they're not going to win... But they have a lot of really solid players, i hope they take Proleague seriously and compete at their potential.
On October 31 2013 04:30 DavidDiamond wrote: Really, the big thing for me is seeing nestea be revived by prologue, constant play and bo1 format when it does come will be perfect for nestea to craft ingenious beautiful games of starcraft, the games I still haven't let go and that I've yet to see other players replicate. Even if it's just one game through out the entire season, which I personally think we'll see a lot more just from sheer quantity. Here's to hoping nestea can gives a glimpse to newer audiences just exactly why he has a legend to his name.
I doubt we'd see much, if any, of Nestea in proleague given they have players that are performing much better than him consistently. It's kind of strange, Nestea was played once in GSTL throughout the entirety of last season. That one time, he all-killed NSH (not exactly what I'd call a super difficult thing to do but still Jjakji). Other than that, not played at all.
But that's the thing, I even thought from way back the format will negate a lot of nesteas problems. The dudes a genius, rather then being thrown out randomly in gsl in terms of who he plays, proleague when the 7 format preplaced players, im has a lot of wiggle room for extras. If nestea can just practice for one match for a couple of weeks, with help from the team, cause you know im is gunning to win it all, I just think we can see great things from the professor. Maybe he wont be in form, but maybe we can see a couple of really great games of sc, that good old mind being put to work. I hope so
ehh seems unlikely. Take it from someone who tried to stay a diehard fan for a very long time, Nestea isn't even that great strategically anymore :/
I would not put him as top 20 in any matchup, not even ZvZ.
On October 31 2013 09:36 Spacekyod wrote: Super stoked at IM possibly joining Proleague!
Of course, they're not going to win... But they have a lot of really solid players, i hope they take Proleague seriously and compete at their potential.
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Despite a very disappointing streak in GSTL throughout 2012, they're still one of the best teams in team league and are easily top-tier contenders to win.
EPT
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