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Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-30 18:58:19
October 30 2013 18:55 GMT
#141
On October 31 2013 03:47 Aeceus wrote:
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On October 31 2013 00:02 Adreme wrote:
On October 30 2013 19:44 TheSayo182 wrote:
so at the moment we have 9 teams in proleague?

kt - skt - stars - jin - cj - galaxy - im - mvp - prime

interesting situation at this point, if you want to have an even number of team


The problem with the teams as is though is that there is a fairly massive power divide in terms of talent between KT SKT IM MVP and the rest of the proleague. Prime does have Maru and a few very good player so they are probably the 5th best team but those 4 are just far and away outclassing the rest.

Edit: I forgot CJ but I have not been keeping up with them so im not sure where they fall.


Would they ever consider an NFL style draft and split current teams up?


That's something that only works in fantasy sports. Not real sports.

About Prime being the 5th best team: I don't know--I actually think Prime is the weakest team right now. Yeah, they have Maru and... who else? ByuN and Creator have been mediocre at best since HotS came out, MKP is gone, and there's really no one else but rookies. At least WJS will still have Soulkey and sOs, and Jin Air and CJ have multiple solid players each, if no big stars, like Savage, TRUE, herO, EffOrt, etc...

Edit: Forgot Samsung--they're much like CJ and JA with RorO, Shine, Reality, etc...

Prime and WJS would obviously have to recruit multiple players (please get Genius!), and hopefully they are at least solid players like the ones AZUBU recruit (Center, Vines, RagnaroK) and not like the guys on SouL (HwangSin, SSanaEE) that are often just kind of embarassing to watch.
TaishiCi
Profile Joined September 2013
Korea (South)211 Posts
October 30 2013 19:20 GMT
#142
On October 31 2013 03:55 Yakikorosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 03:47 Aeceus wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:02 Adreme wrote:
On October 30 2013 19:44 TheSayo182 wrote:
so at the moment we have 9 teams in proleague?

kt - skt - stars - jin - cj - galaxy - im - mvp - prime

interesting situation at this point, if you want to have an even number of team


The problem with the teams as is though is that there is a fairly massive power divide in terms of talent between KT SKT IM MVP and the rest of the proleague. Prime does have Maru and a few very good player so they are probably the 5th best team but those 4 are just far and away outclassing the rest.

Edit: I forgot CJ but I have not been keeping up with them so im not sure where they fall.


Would they ever consider an NFL style draft and split current teams up?


That's something that only works in fantasy sports. Not real sports.

About Prime being the 5th best team: I don't know--I actually think Prime is the weakest team right now. Yeah, they have Maru and... who else? ByuN and Creator have been mediocre at best since HotS came out, MKP is gone, and there's really no one else but rookies. At least WJS will still have Soulkey and sOs, and Jin Air and CJ have multiple solid players each, if no big stars, like Savage, TRUE, herO, EffOrt, etc...

Edit: Forgot Samsung--they're much like CJ and JA with RorO, Shine, Reality, etc...

Prime and WJS would obviously have to recruit multiple players (please get Genius!), and hopefully they are at least solid players like the ones AZUBU recruit (Center, Vines, RagnaroK) and not like the guys on SouL (HwangSin, SSanaEE) that are often just kind of embarassing to watch.

To be fair HwangSin is more of a coach on that team.
Genius would probably stay in Europe if at all possible with next year's system, so I doubt he will sign with a KeSPA team.
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havok55
Profile Joined May 2013
United States276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-30 19:25:25
October 30 2013 19:25 GMT
#143
On October 30 2013 16:26 LynxSeba wrote:
Well, now that Dear is in godlike mode, maybe is easier for soul to get some sponsors.

= ).


More like swoop in to scavenge their players. cough Acer
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
October 30 2013 19:27 GMT
#144
On October 31 2013 04:25 havok55 wrote:
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On October 30 2013 16:26 LynxSeba wrote:
Well, now that Dear is in godlike mode, maybe is easier for soul to get some sponsors.

= ).


More like swoop in to scavenge their players. cough Acer


You think we will live to see Acer sign a Protoss player?
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
DavidDiamond
Profile Joined October 2013
United Kingdom9 Posts
October 30 2013 19:30 GMT
#145
Really, the big thing for me is seeing nestea be revived by prologue, constant play and bo1 format when it does come will be perfect for nestea to craft ingenious beautiful games of starcraft, the games I still haven't let go and that I've yet to see other players replicate. Even if it's just one game through out the entire season, which I personally think we'll see a lot more just from sheer quantity. Here's to hoping nestea can gives a glimpse to newer audiences just exactly why he has a legend to his name.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 30 2013 20:14 GMT
#146
On October 31 2013 04:30 DavidDiamond wrote:
Really, the big thing for me is seeing nestea be revived by prologue, constant play and bo1 format when it does come will be perfect for nestea to craft ingenious beautiful games of starcraft, the games I still haven't let go and that I've yet to see other players replicate. Even if it's just one game through out the entire season, which I personally think we'll see a lot more just from sheer quantity. Here's to hoping nestea can gives a glimpse to newer audiences just exactly why he has a legend to his name.

I doubt we'd see much, if any, of Nestea in proleague given they have players that are performing much better than him consistently. It's kind of strange, Nestea was played once in GSTL throughout the entirety of last season. That one time, he all-killed NSH (not exactly what I'd call a super difficult thing to do but still Jjakji). Other than that, not played at all.
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17684 Posts
October 30 2013 20:19 GMT
#147
On October 31 2013 05:14 Darkhoarse wrote:
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On October 31 2013 04:30 DavidDiamond wrote:
Really, the big thing for me is seeing nestea be revived by prologue, constant play and bo1 format when it does come will be perfect for nestea to craft ingenious beautiful games of starcraft, the games I still haven't let go and that I've yet to see other players replicate. Even if it's just one game through out the entire season, which I personally think we'll see a lot more just from sheer quantity. Here's to hoping nestea can gives a glimpse to newer audiences just exactly why he has a legend to his name.

I doubt we'd see much, if any, of Nestea in proleague given they have players that are performing much better than him consistently. It's kind of strange, Nestea was played once in GSTL throughout the entirety of last season. That one time, he all-killed NSH (not exactly what I'd call a super difficult thing to do but still Jjakji). Other than that, not played at all.

maybe he can all kill Prime and then go back into hiding lol, like if Maru is away.
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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-30 20:22:25
October 30 2013 20:21 GMT
#148
On October 30 2013 22:22 Darkhoarse wrote:
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On October 30 2013 21:19 boxerfred wrote:
On October 30 2013 19:57 Lorch wrote:
On October 30 2013 19:54 boxerfred wrote:
We need a GSTL vs. KeSPA exhibition showmatch first .

Really great to see Proleague continue, though I'm really hoping for some "foreign" appearance just as EG-TL.


Well eg-tl is apparently done. Given that snute stays at cj atm I say there is a small possibility for cj-tl. I guess our only hope would be for axiom-acer to join PL after GSTL.



Yeah, that would be great to see! On CJ-TL: I don't think it's going to happen, but since Nazgul mentioned that HerO might play in Proleague, HerO himself said that he's currently at the IM house (in WCS Season Finals' interview), we might have a IM_TL_HerO or something?

There's a chance. Nazgul did mention something like HerO might play in proleague which I thought was strange for just him to play, but he could play in some team partnership type of thing?



I really hope so! Though I do not think that Snute is going to have a proleague appearance. After all, he's a foreigner just starting with serious korean training (or am I wrong? Don't know if he was to Korea before).

Imagine a joint league of eSF and KeSPA, with teams like AxiomAcer and EGTL joining - kind of the incarnation of esports pr0n for me.

In reality, I guess it all comes down to WoongjinPrime. Awesome team name anyways
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 30 2013 20:24 GMT
#149
On October 31 2013 05:19 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 05:14 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 31 2013 04:30 DavidDiamond wrote:
Really, the big thing for me is seeing nestea be revived by prologue, constant play and bo1 format when it does come will be perfect for nestea to craft ingenious beautiful games of starcraft, the games I still haven't let go and that I've yet to see other players replicate. Even if it's just one game through out the entire season, which I personally think we'll see a lot more just from sheer quantity. Here's to hoping nestea can gives a glimpse to newer audiences just exactly why he has a legend to his name.

I doubt we'd see much, if any, of Nestea in proleague given they have players that are performing much better than him consistently. It's kind of strange, Nestea was played once in GSTL throughout the entirety of last season. That one time, he all-killed NSH (not exactly what I'd call a super difficult thing to do but still Jjakji). Other than that, not played at all.

maybe he can all kill Prime and then go back into hiding lol, like if Maru is away.

The way Nestea has been playing they'd probably have to field BarbiePrime in all 5 slots for him to do that :/
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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
October 30 2013 20:43 GMT
#150
On October 31 2013 05:24 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 05:19 Die4Ever wrote:
On October 31 2013 05:14 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 31 2013 04:30 DavidDiamond wrote:
Really, the big thing for me is seeing nestea be revived by prologue, constant play and bo1 format when it does come will be perfect for nestea to craft ingenious beautiful games of starcraft, the games I still haven't let go and that I've yet to see other players replicate. Even if it's just one game through out the entire season, which I personally think we'll see a lot more just from sheer quantity. Here's to hoping nestea can gives a glimpse to newer audiences just exactly why he has a legend to his name.

I doubt we'd see much, if any, of Nestea in proleague given they have players that are performing much better than him consistently. It's kind of strange, Nestea was played once in GSTL throughout the entirety of last season. That one time, he all-killed NSH (not exactly what I'd call a super difficult thing to do but still Jjakji). Other than that, not played at all.

maybe he can all kill Prime and then go back into hiding lol, like if Maru is away.

The way Nestea has been playing they'd probably have to field BarbiePrime in all 5 slots for him to do that :/


Well, after all, that gives NesTea 100% win ratio in GSTL. Beat that first. /joking
Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-30 21:01:02
October 30 2013 20:51 GMT
#151
Actually if I recall, NesTea played in GSTL very rarely even when he was a top player. Not sure what the reason is, maybe he just doesn't like playing games he can't prepare in advance for.

Edit: Quick search on Aligulac confirms this:

NesTea played 3 games total in GSTL in 2011 (all vs. Protoss) and went 1-2
3 games total in 2012 (all vs. Zerg) and went 0-3

So prior to the recent NSH all-kill, NesTea's LIFETIME GSTL record was 1-5, though it's worth noting that the one game he HAD won was a Game 9 win that won IM the finals of the very first GSTL.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
October 30 2013 20:54 GMT
#152
On October 30 2013 15:30 aRyuujin wrote:
i'm pretty sure that, at least gerrard acknowledged that kespa gave them a lot more sponsorship opportunities


hmmm seeing kespa teams dying for years, seeing kespa8 team formed because no sponsors, i rly dont think thats a reason and no rly no
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Kyir
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1047 Posts
October 30 2013 21:00 GMT
#153
Still not going to watch proleague.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 30 2013 21:02 GMT
#154
On October 31 2013 06:00 Kyir wrote:
Still not going to watch proleague.


Is that all you had to say?
Kyir
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1047 Posts
October 30 2013 21:21 GMT
#155
On October 31 2013 06:02 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 06:00 Kyir wrote:
Still not going to watch proleague.


Is that all you had to say?


I probably would have said more if I had more to say.
jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-30 22:06:37
October 30 2013 22:06 GMT
#156
some day fantasy will be good again

thanks for adding the pics
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 30 2013 22:14 GMT
#157
On October 31 2013 06:00 Kyir wrote:
Still not going to watch proleague.

Your loss
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XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-30 22:19:51
October 30 2013 22:19 GMT
#158
Proleague is one the few things I still find interesting in the StarCraft II scene. I am very pleased over this; more-so because the LoL Proleague is finally coming to fruition.
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RainmanMP
Profile Joined October 2007
United States1698 Posts
October 30 2013 22:22 GMT
#159
I wonder what FBH is doing there....
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kugel
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany116 Posts
October 30 2013 22:23 GMT
#160
yes i think after im finaly cleared the situation with LG they are looking for sponsorship as is prime, not sure for mvp though.
i am not sure what staretale is going to do if GSTL disbands but redbull is a huge deal and may be intressted to join kespa ?
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