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Proleague in December, MVP, IM, Prime to KeSPA? - Page 6

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TaishiCi
Profile Joined September 2013
Korea (South)211 Posts
October 30 2013 13:56 GMT
#101
Good to see there will be professional starcraft 2 team league next year in Korea.
Lets keep this alive!

...and hope for significant improvements in LotV
Dae Han Min Gook Man Sae!!!
Niko_Thien
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany2671 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-30 13:58:09
October 30 2013 13:57 GMT
#102
On October 30 2013 22:30 KelsierSC wrote:
Fuck yeh Proleague coming back

Do we have any idea who the english casters will be and how much support they will receive. it was kind of lacklustre last time.

Well Whiplash is still in Korea. Last time I heard anything about it, they were looking for a second caster. I hope they get a good one.
@Niko_Thien on twitter!
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-30 14:27:47
October 30 2013 14:26 GMT
#103
The eSF guys should all get hugely successful LoL teams now to troll the shit out of KeSPA.

On October 30 2013 22:57 Niko_Thien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 22:30 KelsierSC wrote:
Fuck yeh Proleague coming back

Do we have any idea who the english casters will be and how much support they will receive. it was kind of lacklustre last time.

Well Whiplash is still in Korea. Last time I heard anything about it, they were looking for a second caster. I hope they get a good one.


I don't think they are willing to spend a large amount of money so probably not.
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
October 30 2013 14:28 GMT
#104
On October 30 2013 22:57 Niko_Thien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 22:30 KelsierSC wrote:
Fuck yeh Proleague coming back

Do we have any idea who the english casters will be and how much support they will receive. it was kind of lacklustre last time.

Well Whiplash is still in Korea. Last time I heard anything about it, they were looking for a second caster. I hope they get a good one.

I REALLY want to get in on this (though not permanently). I'm in Daegu, South Korea right now. How can I apply?
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 30 2013 14:33 GMT
#105
Yesssss PL! Now please unite korea that would be the best present ever
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-30 15:03:32
October 30 2013 15:02 GMT
#106
On October 30 2013 19:44 TheSayo182 wrote:
so at the moment we have 9 teams in proleague?

kt - skt - stars - jin - cj - galaxy - im - mvp - prime

interesting situation at this point, if you want to have an even number of team


The problem with the teams as is though is that there is a fairly massive power divide in terms of talent between KT SKT IM MVP and the rest of the proleague. Prime does have Maru and a few very good player so they are probably the 5th best team but those 4 are just far and away outclassing the rest.

Edit: I forgot CJ but I have not been keeping up with them so im not sure where they fall.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-30 15:11:07
October 30 2013 15:08 GMT
#107
Stars still have sOs and Soulkey, not sure about MVP now
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Nerevar
Profile Joined January 2013
547 Posts
October 30 2013 15:12 GMT
#108
Does anyone know how sponsorship money is distributed among KeSPA teams nowadays? Iirc, years ago they changed the system so that instead of sponsorship money going directly to their respective teams, the money would all get pooled together by KeSPA and redistributed more evenly amongst the teams. I wonder if they're still using this system now that some former eSF teams have joined.
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
October 30 2013 15:27 GMT
#109
So where does StarTale fit in all of this? I honestly don't get why they keep getting left behind in favour of other teams, even Prime.
Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
October 30 2013 15:30 GMT
#110
I'm actually pretty pumped for this season of proleague. Lots of teams, should be fairly fun to watch
fluidin
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore1084 Posts
October 30 2013 15:34 GMT
#111
On October 30 2013 17:09 Kurbz wrote:
i can't help but think now of blizzards other pending game heroes of the storm, I wonder if it will even be able to gain much traction in korea with lol/sc2 taking centre stage.


don't forget dota 2 too. i think heroes of the storm is going to come out at a really inopportune time
playnice
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia302 Posts
October 30 2013 15:34 GMT
#112
On October 31 2013 00:27 howLiN wrote:
So where does StarTale fit in all of this? I honestly don't get why they keep getting left behind in favour of other teams, even Prime.

StarTale is ESF.
bypLy
Profile Joined June 2013
757 Posts
October 30 2013 15:38 GMT
#113
wow great a LOL proleague, man I cant wait
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
October 30 2013 15:42 GMT
#114
On October 30 2013 19:23 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 17:31 Shellshock wrote:
On October 30 2013 17:25 lichter wrote:
On October 30 2013 17:14 Shellshock wrote:
Hopefully this helps them all get the sponsors they need


Prime not dead?

Woongjin Prime incoming


WoongjinPrimeTL - Nazgul said HerO might play in PL

Wait he's staying at the IM house so that'd make more sense


Yeah but Snute's staying with CJ and there's a CJ video on the TL youtube channel.

CJ 2, IM 1.
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
October 30 2013 15:44 GMT
#115
I wonder why Startale is so reluctant to join PL.
They have every reason to join
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 30 2013 15:44 GMT
#116
I wish they just combined the GSTL teams and the PL teams into one league. Oh well.
Moderator
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 30 2013 15:45 GMT
#117
On October 30 2013 15:27 Waxangel wrote:
Source: Inven.co.kr

At the KeSPA pro-gamer education seminar, KeSPA chairman Korean MP Jeon Byung Heon announced that the new StarCraft 2 Proleague would launch in December.

Additionally, players from MVP, Prime and IM were seen at the seminar. With the three teams having left the eSF in September, it appears they are well on the path to joining KeSPA, if not de facto members already.

Also, it was announced that work was being done on a new LoL league outside OGN's Champions, which many speculate to be a LoL Proleague.


Ofc they were. It's happening.
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
October 30 2013 16:02 GMT
#118
On October 31 2013 00:02 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 19:44 TheSayo182 wrote:
so at the moment we have 9 teams in proleague?

kt - skt - stars - jin - cj - galaxy - im - mvp - prime

interesting situation at this point, if you want to have an even number of team


The problem with the teams as is though is that there is a fairly massive power divide in terms of talent between KT SKT IM MVP and the rest of the proleague. Prime does have Maru and a few very good player so they are probably the 5th best team but those 4 are just far and away outclassing the rest.

Edit: I forgot CJ but I have not been keeping up with them so im not sure where they fall.


IM/MVP dont seem to keep up. When the like of Losira/Keen advanced the furthest in individual league, you know your team is not so hot. The problem with esf/ex-esf teams are that upcoming talents are almost non-existent
Plus it's goddamn Proleague. Looks what happened to EGTL

All factors concerned, I'd say SKT > CJ = Jinair > IM = KT > Samsung > MVP > Prime. Dunno how the neo-Stars will shaped up. Maybe they dig up some hidden, Sora kinda of rookie; maybe they partner up with other teams, who knows.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
October 30 2013 16:07 GMT
#119
On October 31 2013 01:02 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 00:02 Adreme wrote:
On October 30 2013 19:44 TheSayo182 wrote:
so at the moment we have 9 teams in proleague?

kt - skt - stars - jin - cj - galaxy - im - mvp - prime

interesting situation at this point, if you want to have an even number of team


The problem with the teams as is though is that there is a fairly massive power divide in terms of talent between KT SKT IM MVP and the rest of the proleague. Prime does have Maru and a few very good player so they are probably the 5th best team but those 4 are just far and away outclassing the rest.

Edit: I forgot CJ but I have not been keeping up with them so im not sure where they fall.


IM/MVP dont seem to keep up. When the like of Losira/Keen advanced the furthest in individual league, you know your team is not so hot. The problem with esf/ex-esf teams are that upcoming talents are almost non-existent
Plus it's goddamn Proleague. Looks what happened to EGTL

All factors concerned, I'd say SKT > CJ = Jinair > IM = KT > Samsung > MVP > Prime. Dunno how the neo-Stars will shaped up. Maybe they dig up some hidden, Sora kinda of rookie; maybe they partner up with other teams, who knows.

Yea Losira is the highest player yet Byul was top 8 in the season finals. And EGTL never took Proleague serious so that is a really bad example.
ishida66
Profile Joined May 2011
Japan74 Posts
October 30 2013 16:07 GMT
#120
Btw is Najin sword/shield joining Kespa by any chance? They have a strong LoL team and their sponsors´ pocket looks full of gold.
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