BoxeR and YellOw appearing on The Genius season 2! - Page 46

a one-third drop in viewership compared to YellOw's swan song Ep7.

Sangmin is almost all but certain of a berth in the final, the only question is who will be joining him for it. I hope Junghyun will be the person to make it an oldies final, but the popular view is that Yooyoung will be the favourite to clinch it.

BoxeR's 'ambitious plan' dumbfounded me. It's way too dangerous and doomed to fail the moment he intercepted Jiwon's number in the first place. Junghyun's defensive strategy for DM was risky, but Hongchul was unlucky that he managed to get only one correct. Overall every one was quite even in this episode without any particular bright points to crow about. I now hope for either Junghyun or Jiwon to go all the way to face Sangmin in the final.

And I heard The Genius Behind was crappy. The other commentators put the blame squarely on Duhee for his elimination in Ep6 and said some unsavoury stuff in Jinho's presence. Looks like yet another poor attempt to defend the production team. Sigh. Can Jinho get out of it at all?

As previous posters pointed out the politician went into the deathmatch with a strong advantage. Given the information restriction strategy that Junghyun employed, I wanted to calculate the chances of Hongchul being able to equalize with his opponent before death. While I couldn't work that out I did get some interesting facts for if the players had perfect memory, the chance that all the tiles would be revealed is a mere 6% (if Junghyun had not already won), the chance of Hongchul getting 3 correct to be ahead of Junghyun's initial position is 18%. These figures seem pretty bleak for Hongchul but the more tiles are revealed the more it becomes a game of skill.

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I think people are being unfair to the show though are just a bit salty that Jinho is gone. If he had come up with the pass strategy I think it would've been received in a fairly positive light. As for Sangmin having an advantage with garnets, that's ok too, he earned them. Had the other team formed a perfect coalition they could still nominate him for the deathmatch. The game was designed perfectly to redistribute garnets equitably so the weaker players all upped their numbers and next week the mismatch should be lower.

I'm really disappointed with the elimination of Yoonsun, Dohee, and Jinho in the last 3 episodes. They are all extremely strong players, but they're just being methodically picked apart by bad luck and the broadcaster clique. Granted, one could argue that it's their fault for not forming their own coalition against the broadcasters until it's too late, but I also feel that the games have been extremely luck-based and biased. If the broadcaster alliance had strong-armed their way to their current position through skill and finesse, I would be okay with it, but they seem more lucky and abusive than anything, and since they are the vast majority now, it just seems to be a process of the other players trying to get into a high school cool kid clique (and failing).

More than anything, I feel like the Deathmatches aren't the skill-based crucible that they ought to be, and that the weaker player usually ends up winning. This wasn't the case in the first few episodes, but I got a definite sense of it starting with Eunkyl's elimination. He made the mistake of making too many enemies, but he was smart and calculated his risks correctly during the main match; his loss was dictated more by affiliations from outside the show, which wasn't entertaining to watch. Also, Jiwon is easily the weakest player and is only surviving through his celebrity connections. (Jaekyung's elimination through Sun, Moon, Star was fine, because the meta-show politics hadn't risen to prominence yet.)
Yoonsun was a very strong player, but got incredibly unlucky and lost to Boxer because the death match played to Boxer's only strength. As much as I cheer for the pro gamers, Yoonsun was a lot sharper and cleverer, and I think she deserved the win. She also would have muddied the alliances in a more interesting way.
Dohee lost in a way that could be considered outside the rules. He went in a really scummy way, and the entire episode felt like a write-off (it's impossible to win when your enemy controls 6/8 hands -- another game biased towards forming the largest team).
Jinho's elimination was really a culmination of previous mistakes, and that's alright. However, he couldn't use any sort of skill to claw back in, because both the main and death matches were completely predisposed towards the person who had the most garnets. You needed to spend at least 5 just to play the game properly, but if you had 15, you were guaranteed to win. At that point, the losers need to spend nonexistent garnets to prevent themselves from being eliminated, and the winners have tokens of immortality as well as all the garnets. There was no catchup mechanic, and that's just poor game design. Being eliminated on a coin flip was the worst way to go.

I'm mostly irked that Jiwon has survived through dumb luck and star power. I would definitely rate him as the weakest player overall, since he doesn't even have the charismatic skills of Jyunghun and Hongchul, who understand their weaknesses and play to mitigate them. He has just been used to do the other players' dirty work, and is something of a lapdog in this competition.

Sangmin is the true mastermind here, though. He's manipulated all the other celebrities to this point, and they somehow still trust him. He has made all the right moves and eliminated his strongest competition. He's in an invincible position come the end of ep.7, and it was entirely earned. If anyone deserves the win at this point, it's definitely him.

wow they had the chance to make Sangmin really poor. Boxer had the right idea, but he has the worse execution, making his supposedly two allies falter to his plan.

At least Jyunghun step up a bit in this episode. I hope he can get far.

But damn, besides playing smart, Sangmin is pretty lucky with those games as well. This minus auction was heavily stacked in his favor. Plus he still has Jyunghun in his grasp, making him believe Sangmin is the most trustworthy of the bunch. The others are really even losing on the charisma battle too. Boxer couldn't even dent his safety token and pig bank properly. Those games make me wonder if it's just luck on Sangmin's side. Still I hope he wins. His only problem seems he isn't well versed in deathmatch situations with only one deathmatch in his belt. It might bite him in the finals.

Yellow's presence was strong in this episode. The -22 being the highlight of the game and both two joint winners having -2. lol

If anyone is interested in the main game they played in episode 8, it is this exact game, just with less numbers removed. http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/12942/no-thanks

With them using Khet for a deathmatch as well ("laser chess" had the exact same pieces/positions/rules) have the producers run out of ideas for games and just need to use other peoples exact designs now? It looks like from the ep 9 preview they are just rehashing the game from the first episode too.

Wow, ep8 felt like i was watching The Stupid rather than The Genius. Boxer was the only one thinking right imo, but his execution (in terms of persuasions and planning) sucked. But he had the right idea, you pretty much HAVE to force Sangmin to use his immortality token. And it was pretty easy granted other people join up. But god damn were some of those people stupid; so frustrating watching them play.

And ironically, the deathmatch was suppose to be a game of memory turned out to be a game of zero memory and all luck.