EPTFXOpen to stop sponsoring FXO.KR - Page 11
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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Gary Oak
Canada2381 Posts
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FLuE
United States1012 Posts
This is all similar to me. It only seems bad because it was so good. People over invested, and now we are normalizing. It doesn't mean there won't be SC2 teams or competition, but really, did we need 50 teams and 400 pro players? Lets be honest, there were plenty of players over the past year or two who should have enjoyed the fact they were getting paid to play. And the money was stretched to thin around to many players. I think that a smaller scene, with fewer pros and fewer teams will actually be better. Things need to be consolidated. Sponsor money consolidated. Prize money distributed to fewer players so that the salary can be boosted by prize money. I'd also like to add that I think we are trying to hard in SC2 to force the "team" structure. In the team structure to many lower level players end up with salaries and pulling money from the team and sponsors that don't pay back. I know it is great for practice partners and team leagues etc, but some of these teams were just flat out bloated. A team probably needs 6 players, 2 of each race. I think we might even see more players just going "solo" with individual sponsors. I know if I were looking to get into SC2 as a sponsor I'd have no interest in sponsoring a team and trying to fly 5 guys around the globe. I'd want to put all my resources into 1 player, and promote that one player like crazy as the face of my brand. It would be cheaper and probably more exposure for my brand than having to float a B level player. I don't see this as a bad thing, it is just the scene coming back down to what it can support. The problem is that the high was so high, that this seems like a low instead of just where it should have been in the first place. | ||
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Ettick
United States2434 Posts
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Mirham
Denmark44 Posts
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SHOOG
United States1639 Posts
Glad that they will continue though. So many things going on in the SC2 scene that have been making me really mad recently. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On October 03 2013 01:48 SHOOG wrote: Seriously such a great team with no reason to lose their sponsorship. Glad that they will continue though. So many things going on in the SC2 scene that have been making me really mad recently. except for when their entire esports staff leaves the company... | ||
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tabeatz
United States83 Posts
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aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
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e4e5nf3
Canada599 Posts
On October 03 2013 01:33 Mirham wrote: Awesome how blizzard tried to make sc2 better, but they did it so amazingly bad that its slowly killing the game, not that i mind. Viva la dota 2! I wouldn't say they made SC2 bad... it's just that we have the gigantic empires of LoL and Dota gobbling up the territory. Even if they made SC2 simply an updated version of BW the numbers would still be in favor of LoL/Dota. People just aren't infatuated with RTS nowadays. They want simple, casual, anxiety free esports and the moba games fulfill that niche. | ||
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Foxxan
Sweden3427 Posts
They want simple, casual, anxiety free esports and the moba games fulfill that niche. 'They' as in humans. Human beeings like activety before inactive Human beeings like to improve over unimprove and so on Implement these stuff in a rts game, and at the same time make it fun and people would play it. | ||
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asdfOu
United States2089 Posts
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pedrlz
Brazil5234 Posts
On October 03 2013 02:23 e4e5nf3 wrote: I wouldn't say they made SC2 bad... it's just that we have the gigantic empires of LoL and Dota gobbling up the territory. Even if they made SC2 simply an updated version of BW the numbers would still be in favor of LoL/Dota. People just aren't infatuated with RTS nowadays. They want simple, casual, anxiety free esports and the moba games fulfill that niche. Do you really think moba games are anxiety free? I don't know about lol, but Dota isn't anxiety free AT ALL. If you do mistake against mid level opponents you get punished hard. I don't like to play mid because I know I have to accomplish a lot and my mistakes will be even bigger. People play moba because everyone is playing moba, there was the time of MMORPG and nowadays half of this is desert. You know, people play what everyone plays, I like SC2 but I don't have any friend who plays so I didn't even bought HotS since I knew would be an waste of a lot of money (it is too expensive too  ) | ||
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RaZorwire
Sweden718 Posts
On October 03 2013 00:28 NEEDZMOAR wrote: Completely off topic but What oov interview? I havent found anything despite my efforts (maybe I just suck at searching  )This one: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=430737 | ||
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NEEDZMOAR
Sweden1277 Posts
^ Thanks! On October 03 2013 01:06 Steins;Gate wrote: Starcraft just isn't that entertaining to watch (due to the stagnant meta), unless you watch it once in a while. One of the main reasons (I think, well, at least for me) people still watch/follow the scene is because of the hype the players and teams get, not for the game itself. Personally I think that Blizzard should just give each race really imba units and then stop balancing. SC is on a decline right now anyways, might as well leave it be. Edit: Hope FXO find another big sponsor soon. thats your personal opinion, personally I love to watch sc2 and Im watching maybe 80% of the tournament games. people are blaming wcs, DK, DB, koreans, no region lock, lack of content in korea, too much content outside of korea, no f2p, LoL and the list goes on. But what does any of this matter if the teams cant act as companies? as Ive said before, korean teams are absolutely awful at promoting their sponsors, at being the way of advertising they are supposed to be (EG is the only team that does this well in the whole industry imo). Anything can be huge with the right marketing, sometimes I wonder if teams actually realize that the number one priority is to sell their product, sell themselves enough for sponsors to Invest! A region lock would be incredibly stupid in my opinion. If a regions were locked, does anyone realise that in order for koreans not to retire we need at least 3/4th of all the money to go to wcs kr if we want the prizepools to even remotely reflect the skill-level. As far as the claim about WCS ruining the amount of content in korea goes, Sure the "no rivals allowed"bullshit is incredibly stupid and needs to be removed like yesterday, but its not like korea had a lot of tournaments before WCS, apart from korean weekly and GSL, was there really anything that did attract viewers? | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On October 03 2013 01:54 jmbthirteen wrote: except for when their entire esports staff leaves the company... and they openly admit that the FXO Korean chapter weren't too cooperative when it came to the business side. | ||
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Greendotz
United Kingdom2053 Posts
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IAmHaunteR
United States36 Posts
The unfortunate casualties keep growing. | ||
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Phanekim
United States777 Posts
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Copymizer
Denmark2109 Posts
On October 03 2013 05:54 Phanekim wrote: FXO following the trend. not sure if its blizzard's fault really... Whos fault is it then? Blizzard is obviously pretty bad at managing their product | ||
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