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On October 03 2013 01:05 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 00:46 Xiphos wrote:On October 03 2013 00:04 The_Red_Viper wrote:On October 03 2013 00:01 Xiphos wrote:On October 02 2013 23:49 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 02 2013 23:47 Xiphos wrote:On October 02 2013 23:34 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 02 2013 23:33 Nevermind86 wrote:On October 02 2013 23:29 KeksX wrote:On October 02 2013 23:25 Nevermind86 wrote:
The problem with SC2 is very simple:
The game isn't fun. A game should be fun for both the lowest level players to the highest level players and also be good to watch for spectators, SC2 lacks these 3 things I just mentioned, no amount of hype, tournament price or publicity can make up for this. Some may argue the game is "a little fun" but that is not "fun-fun". So you don't like the game and think it's not fun and then just assume "Well obviously this game must suck then!". Alright. You may want to read my arguments in it's entirety. And no, I love SC and loved SC2, but my love for SC2 quickly died, in about a year and a half but I'm sure I was not the only one that went through that. My love for SC1 died after 5 games i actually played in it. So, yes, you cannot talk for all. 5 games...*chuckles* Competitively, you barely know how to even play the game after you play all three races in all matchups to get a sense of the game flow. Stop playing a game with a disgruntle mood, you need to dismiss all personal egos going into the game or else you get frustrated and call it a quit because of BW's complexity and deciding options. I loved this paragraph of yours. Because you know, i am not fast enough to play the game and love it in the same time  . See, i either play the game, or love it :D. BW is good game, but playing it? Pfft, my wrists worth more. Lol now I know for a fact you suck at it and only quit out of frustration. Quite the indolence, complacency, and baseless arrogance to boost. I bid you good luck with those qualities. So when someone quits sc2 its cause he had no fun. When someone quits BW its cause he sucks so hard and its his own fault. Interesting. Incomplete at hand, he explicitly stated that he has only played 5 games of BW which is not nearly enough to even understand the game while the other guy have been playing for 1.5 years. After that much time grinding a game, you proved yourself to be adept at its knowledge while someone who played a mere of 5 games is most likely to be full of it. I explicitly stated my love for BW died after 5 games of it. I never said i played 5 games of it (more like 50 + who the hell knows how many games watched, but around 50 as well probably, as i never really liked to watch BW, it sucks as spectator sport) . So, yes, do not make a logical conclusions, when you talk to me, you will just confuse everyone. Granted, i won't deny i was not good at it, i was rather casual at it (D level).
"do no make a logical conclusions, when you talk to me."
So the concept of "logical sense" is completely off the table when conversing with you..its cool to know that you can't accept logic. And I suppose that with all evidences attest the authenticity of that statement since you chose to love something even before trying it first and then later contradict yourself by stating that you "never really liked to watch the BW".
That being said, you are the confused, uninformed, and ignorant one here. Please do not attempt to drag everyone down with you on that boat.
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On October 03 2013 06:11 Garmer wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 05:53 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 03 2013 05:43 Garmer wrote:On October 03 2013 05:07 The_Red_Viper wrote:On October 03 2013 04:53 Garmer wrote:On October 03 2013 00:40 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 03 2013 00:01 Xiphos wrote:On October 02 2013 23:49 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 02 2013 23:47 Xiphos wrote:On October 02 2013 23:34 lolfail9001 wrote:
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My love for SC1 died after 5 games i actually played in it. So, yes, you cannot talk for all. 5 games...*chuckles* Competitively, you barely know how to even play the game after you play all three races in all matchups to get a sense of the game flow. Stop playing a game with a disgruntle mood, you need to dismiss all personal egos going into the game or else you get frustrated and call it a quit because of BW's complexity and deciding options. I loved this paragraph of yours. Because you know, i am not fast enough to play the game and love it in the same time . See, i either play the game, or love it :D. BW is good game, but playing it? Pfft, my wrists worth more. Lol now I know for a fact you suck at it and only quit out of frustration. Quite the indolence, complacency, and baseless arrogance to boost. I bid you good luck with those qualities. Okay, sir, BW is the greatest RTS game with the worst fans evah <3! you haven't played long enough to really think it isn't come here after you make c rank at least i have played both at serious level BW b- SC2 master and BW is miles ahead in term of fun Sry that doesnt even make sense. By your logic you would have to play all Rts games ever made at a decent level to make any comments about it. So what was your lvl in dune? Pretty bad? Well then i can say dune >>>> bw right? And to say that bw is more fun than x is a funny statement. Well maybe its more fun for you, but there will be a lot of people who think that sc2 is more fun, and even more people will say that lol is more fun and u know what, its pretty subjective.. no i was good at dune too lol, i just love rts, but even if i wasn't simple you don't compare it, cuz you know nothing about it.... that doesn't mean dune >>> BW like it doesn't mean BW >>>SC2 if you know nothing about BW simply don't say that Sc2 is more fun because you have played only 5 game in BW.... tons of people here haven't play BW seriosly, but they played SC2 seriously, then they pretend to know about BW, just no plz Casual meaning of 'fun' implies lack of deep game experience with either game to make a comparison. One can say that i played around the same amount of games in both BW and SC2 (and in both cases, it is rather low one, around hundred probably, but 50+ for sure) and i can conclude for myself what is more fun for me. For me it is SC2. and this is exactly my point, i accept this, because you have tried them both, but the guy above you, didn't... 50 are not 5 games, at least... Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 05:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:On October 03 2013 05:43 Garmer wrote:On October 03 2013 05:07 The_Red_Viper wrote:On October 03 2013 04:53 Garmer wrote:On October 03 2013 00:40 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 03 2013 00:01 Xiphos wrote:On October 02 2013 23:49 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 02 2013 23:47 Xiphos wrote:On October 02 2013 23:34 lolfail9001 wrote:
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My love for SC1 died after 5 games i actually played in it. So, yes, you cannot talk for all. 5 games...*chuckles* Competitively, you barely know how to even play the game after you play all three races in all matchups to get a sense of the game flow. Stop playing a game with a disgruntle mood, you need to dismiss all personal egos going into the game or else you get frustrated and call it a quit because of BW's complexity and deciding options. I loved this paragraph of yours. Because you know, i am not fast enough to play the game and love it in the same time . See, i either play the game, or love it :D. BW is good game, but playing it? Pfft, my wrists worth more. Lol now I know for a fact you suck at it and only quit out of frustration. Quite the indolence, complacency, and baseless arrogance to boost. I bid you good luck with those qualities. Okay, sir, BW is the greatest RTS game with the worst fans evah <3! you haven't played long enough to really think it isn't come here after you make c rank at least i have played both at serious level BW b- SC2 master and BW is miles ahead in term of fun Sry that doesnt even make sense. By your logic you would have to play all Rts games ever made at a decent level to make any comments about it. So what was your lvl in dune? Pretty bad? Well then i can say dune >>>> bw right? And to say that bw is more fun than x is a funny statement. Well maybe its more fun for you, but there will be a lot of people who think that sc2 is more fun, and even more people will say that lol is more fun and u know what, its pretty subjective.. no i was good at dune too lol, i just love rts, but even if i wasn't simple you don't compare it, cuz you know nothing about it.... that doesn't mean dune >>> BW like it doesn't mean BW >>>SC2 if you know nothing about BW simply don't say that Sc2 is more fun because you have played only 5 game in BW.... tons of people here haven't play BW seriosly, but they played SC2 seriously, then they pretend to know about BW, just no plz Sry but i just dont agree on that. How many games do u have to play to decide if a game is fun for u then?? I mean maybe its just not fun for you to have such a hard mechanical part as in BW. You really dont need 500 games to realize that. The point is that having fun is extremely subjective and there is no system to be objective about that. So stop pretending that BW is more fun and if anyone says otherwise he is a retard, cause its just not true. (for everyone) it's also retarded to say it's not fun after only 5 games
woah woah, i only said i dont agree with your concept that having fun has anything to do with the amount of matches u have played. I didnt even say anything about my personal opinion on bw or sc2. It's just ignorant to say that u need a deep understanding of a game to be able to have fun with it (or even state your opinion on the subject).
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Blizazrd revamp your chat system already, all those empty chat room is ridiculous why haven't they removed it yet? It's such a downer when I come online and see all those empty rooms. And make the ladder an option not the core of the game.
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On October 03 2013 00:40 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 00:01 Xiphos wrote:On October 02 2013 23:49 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 02 2013 23:47 Xiphos wrote:On October 02 2013 23:34 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 02 2013 23:33 Nevermind86 wrote:On October 02 2013 23:29 KeksX wrote:On October 02 2013 23:25 Nevermind86 wrote:
The problem with SC2 is very simple:
The game isn't fun. A game should be fun for both the lowest level players to the highest level players and also be good to watch for spectators, SC2 lacks these 3 things I just mentioned, no amount of hype, tournament price or publicity can make up for this. Some may argue the game is "a little fun" but that is not "fun-fun". So you don't like the game and think it's not fun and then just assume "Well obviously this game must suck then!". Alright. You may want to read my arguments in it's entirety. And no, I love SC and loved SC2, but my love for SC2 quickly died, in about a year and a half but I'm sure I was not the only one that went through that. My love for SC1 died after 5 games i actually played in it. So, yes, you cannot talk for all. 5 games...*chuckles* Competitively, you barely know how to even play the game after you play all three races in all matchups to get a sense of the game flow. Stop playing a game with a disgruntle mood, you need to dismiss all personal egos going into the game or else you get frustrated and call it a quit because of BW's complexity and deciding options. I loved this paragraph of yours. Because you know, i am not fast enough to play the game and love it in the same time . See, i either play the game, or love it :D. BW is good game, but playing it? Pfft, my wrists worth more. Lol now I know for a fact you suck at it and only quit out of frustration. Quite the indolence, complacency, and baseless arrogance to boost. I bid you good luck with those qualities. Okay, sir, BW is the greatest RTS game with the worst fans evah <3!
Yeah we constantly bash on our own game, and whine 24/7 about balance and troll SC2 streams. Oh wait...
You're so ridiculous in your arguments, it's beyond amusing and into profoundly annoying. "BW sucks as a spectator sport" has to be the assertion of the century.
And wow, 50 games??? ALL BOW DOWN, HAIL TO THEE WITH A MODERATE ATTENTION SPAN FOR TWO DAYS! i can see everyone got you completely wrong...
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On October 03 2013 07:11 ImbaTosS wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 00:40 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 03 2013 00:01 Xiphos wrote:On October 02 2013 23:49 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 02 2013 23:47 Xiphos wrote:On October 02 2013 23:34 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 02 2013 23:33 Nevermind86 wrote:On October 02 2013 23:29 KeksX wrote:On October 02 2013 23:25 Nevermind86 wrote:
The problem with SC2 is very simple:
The game isn't fun. A game should be fun for both the lowest level players to the highest level players and also be good to watch for spectators, SC2 lacks these 3 things I just mentioned, no amount of hype, tournament price or publicity can make up for this. Some may argue the game is "a little fun" but that is not "fun-fun". So you don't like the game and think it's not fun and then just assume "Well obviously this game must suck then!". Alright. You may want to read my arguments in it's entirety. And no, I love SC and loved SC2, but my love for SC2 quickly died, in about a year and a half but I'm sure I was not the only one that went through that. My love for SC1 died after 5 games i actually played in it. So, yes, you cannot talk for all. 5 games...*chuckles* Competitively, you barely know how to even play the game after you play all three races in all matchups to get a sense of the game flow. Stop playing a game with a disgruntle mood, you need to dismiss all personal egos going into the game or else you get frustrated and call it a quit because of BW's complexity and deciding options. I loved this paragraph of yours. Because you know, i am not fast enough to play the game and love it in the same time . See, i either play the game, or love it :D. BW is good game, but playing it? Pfft, my wrists worth more. Lol now I know for a fact you suck at it and only quit out of frustration. Quite the indolence, complacency, and baseless arrogance to boost. I bid you good luck with those qualities. Okay, sir, BW is the greatest RTS game with the worst fans evah <3! Yeah we constantly bash on our own game, and whine 24/7 about balance and troll SC2 streams. Oh wait... You're so ridiculous in your arguments, it's beyond amusing and into profoundly annoying. "BW sucks as a spectator sport" has to be the assertion of the century. And wow, 50 games??? ALL BOW DOWN, HAIL TO THEE WITH A MODERATE ATTENTION SPAN FOR TWO DAYS! i can see everyone got you completely wrong...
Well there are enough bw fans that bash on sc2 whenever they can. I dont say there is any difference in communities in generell (well its the internet, there are always strange guys everywhere)
But wtf is wrong about playing 50 games and not liking it then? srsly i can play 10 games of anything and pretty much tell then if it could be fun for me to invest my time in it.
Or a different approach, i maybe need around 1 - 1.5 hours to decide if a (singleplayer-) game is worth playing FOR ME.
I dont see why u would need to bash him cause of that..
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Since SC2 is not popular in KR and KESPA will not take over the scene can we get LAN for LOTV?
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On October 03 2013 06:47 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 06:11 Garmer wrote:On October 03 2013 05:53 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 03 2013 05:43 Garmer wrote:On October 03 2013 05:07 The_Red_Viper wrote:On October 03 2013 04:53 Garmer wrote:On October 03 2013 00:40 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 03 2013 00:01 Xiphos wrote:On October 02 2013 23:49 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 02 2013 23:47 Xiphos wrote:
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5 games...*chuckles*
Competitively, you barely know how to even play the game after you play all three races in all matchups to get a sense of the game flow. Stop playing a game with a disgruntle mood, you need to dismiss all personal egos going into the game or else you get frustrated and call it a quit because of BW's complexity and deciding options. I loved this paragraph of yours. Because you know, i am not fast enough to play the game and love it in the same time . See, i either play the game, or love it :D. BW is good game, but playing it? Pfft, my wrists worth more. Lol now I know for a fact you suck at it and only quit out of frustration. Quite the indolence, complacency, and baseless arrogance to boost. I bid you good luck with those qualities. Okay, sir, BW is the greatest RTS game with the worst fans evah <3! you haven't played long enough to really think it isn't come here after you make c rank at least i have played both at serious level BW b- SC2 master and BW is miles ahead in term of fun Sry that doesnt even make sense. By your logic you would have to play all Rts games ever made at a decent level to make any comments about it. So what was your lvl in dune? Pretty bad? Well then i can say dune >>>> bw right? And to say that bw is more fun than x is a funny statement. Well maybe its more fun for you, but there will be a lot of people who think that sc2 is more fun, and even more people will say that lol is more fun and u know what, its pretty subjective.. no i was good at dune too lol, i just love rts, but even if i wasn't simple you don't compare it, cuz you know nothing about it.... that doesn't mean dune >>> BW like it doesn't mean BW >>>SC2 if you know nothing about BW simply don't say that Sc2 is more fun because you have played only 5 game in BW.... tons of people here haven't play BW seriosly, but they played SC2 seriously, then they pretend to know about BW, just no plz Casual meaning of 'fun' implies lack of deep game experience with either game to make a comparison. One can say that i played around the same amount of games in both BW and SC2 (and in both cases, it is rather low one, around hundred probably, but 50+ for sure) and i can conclude for myself what is more fun for me. For me it is SC2. and this is exactly my point, i accept this, because you have tried them both, but the guy above you, didn't... 50 are not 5 games, at least... On October 03 2013 05:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:On October 03 2013 05:43 Garmer wrote:On October 03 2013 05:07 The_Red_Viper wrote:On October 03 2013 04:53 Garmer wrote:On October 03 2013 00:40 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 03 2013 00:01 Xiphos wrote:On October 02 2013 23:49 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 02 2013 23:47 Xiphos wrote:
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5 games...*chuckles*
Competitively, you barely know how to even play the game after you play all three races in all matchups to get a sense of the game flow. Stop playing a game with a disgruntle mood, you need to dismiss all personal egos going into the game or else you get frustrated and call it a quit because of BW's complexity and deciding options. I loved this paragraph of yours. Because you know, i am not fast enough to play the game and love it in the same time . See, i either play the game, or love it :D. BW is good game, but playing it? Pfft, my wrists worth more. Lol now I know for a fact you suck at it and only quit out of frustration. Quite the indolence, complacency, and baseless arrogance to boost. I bid you good luck with those qualities. Okay, sir, BW is the greatest RTS game with the worst fans evah <3! you haven't played long enough to really think it isn't come here after you make c rank at least i have played both at serious level BW b- SC2 master and BW is miles ahead in term of fun Sry that doesnt even make sense. By your logic you would have to play all Rts games ever made at a decent level to make any comments about it. So what was your lvl in dune? Pretty bad? Well then i can say dune >>>> bw right? And to say that bw is more fun than x is a funny statement. Well maybe its more fun for you, but there will be a lot of people who think that sc2 is more fun, and even more people will say that lol is more fun and u know what, its pretty subjective.. no i was good at dune too lol, i just love rts, but even if i wasn't simple you don't compare it, cuz you know nothing about it.... that doesn't mean dune >>> BW like it doesn't mean BW >>>SC2 if you know nothing about BW simply don't say that Sc2 is more fun because you have played only 5 game in BW.... tons of people here haven't play BW seriosly, but they played SC2 seriously, then they pretend to know about BW, just no plz Sry but i just dont agree on that. How many games do u have to play to decide if a game is fun for u then?? I mean maybe its just not fun for you to have such a hard mechanical part as in BW. You really dont need 500 games to realize that. The point is that having fun is extremely subjective and there is no system to be objective about that. So stop pretending that BW is more fun and if anyone says otherwise he is a retard, cause its just not true. (for everyone) it's also retarded to say it's not fun after only 5 games woah woah, i only said i dont agree with your concept that having fun has anything to do with the amount of matches u have played. I didnt even say anything about my personal opinion on bw or sc2. It's just ignorant to say that u need a deep understanding of a game to be able to have fun with it (or even state your opinion on the subject).
funny thing is that you haven't fun, because of the limited UI(like everyone else who claim that he have not fun with BW) not the gameplay or the units, because for the latter you must play tons of game to say otherwise
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On October 02 2013 16:38 SCguineapig wrote:
the thing is, the game is finished. blizzard can't redesign this game anymore. perhaps with LOTV but if they don't set a insanely large team on it, that game will be delayed by perhaps even 2 years. i believe blizzard needs to change it's course a bit though. focus less on wanting to promote harassment and work more on things that are a bit imbalanced. don't nerf or buff something because a certain strategy is being used for a longer period of time. as long as it works it is viable. no need to fuck up the entire game though with a redesign. could be awesome but it could also fail miserably.
Not really hard to make a decent game with what they have. They just need some talented guys like icefrog or riot devs.
Check out this map: Starbow.
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On October 03 2013 17:04 saddaromma wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 16:38 SCguineapig wrote:
the thing is, the game is finished. blizzard can't redesign this game anymore. perhaps with LOTV but if they don't set a insanely large team on it, that game will be delayed by perhaps even 2 years. i believe blizzard needs to change it's course a bit though. focus less on wanting to promote harassment and work more on things that are a bit imbalanced. don't nerf or buff something because a certain strategy is being used for a longer period of time. as long as it works it is viable. no need to fuck up the entire game though with a redesign. could be awesome but it could also fail miserably. Not really hard to make a decent game with what they have. They just need some talented guys like icefrog or riot devs. Check out this map: Starbow.
Im not that sure about those riot devs ... i mean, about 60% of the champions there are never picked in competitive enviroment.
Imagine starcraft where most units are never built at tournaments.
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actually trying to imagine such starcraft made me think, why the hell not - if all those non-viable units are fun to jerk around with in casual games
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On October 03 2013 17:31 rename wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 17:04 saddaromma wrote:On October 02 2013 16:38 SCguineapig wrote:
the thing is, the game is finished. blizzard can't redesign this game anymore. perhaps with LOTV but if they don't set a insanely large team on it, that game will be delayed by perhaps even 2 years. i believe blizzard needs to change it's course a bit though. focus less on wanting to promote harassment and work more on things that are a bit imbalanced. don't nerf or buff something because a certain strategy is being used for a longer period of time. as long as it works it is viable. no need to fuck up the entire game though with a redesign. could be awesome but it could also fail miserably. Not really hard to make a decent game with what they have. They just need some talented guys like icefrog or riot devs. Check out this map: Starbow. Im not that sure about those riot devs ... i mean, about 60% of the champions there are never picked in competitive enviroment. Imagine starcraft where most units are never built at tournaments. edit: actually trying to imagine such starcraft made me think, why the hell not - if all those non-viable units are fun to jerk around with in casual games
Erm.... No need to imagine when we already have the real thing.
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On October 03 2013 17:31 rename wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 17:04 saddaromma wrote:On October 02 2013 16:38 SCguineapig wrote:
the thing is, the game is finished. blizzard can't redesign this game anymore. perhaps with LOTV but if they don't set a insanely large team on it, that game will be delayed by perhaps even 2 years. i believe blizzard needs to change it's course a bit though. focus less on wanting to promote harassment and work more on things that are a bit imbalanced. don't nerf or buff something because a certain strategy is being used for a longer period of time. as long as it works it is viable. no need to fuck up the entire game though with a redesign. could be awesome but it could also fail miserably. Not really hard to make a decent game with what they have. They just need some talented guys like icefrog or riot devs. Check out this map: Starbow. Im not that sure about those riot devs ... i mean, about 60% of the champions there are never picked in competitive enviroment. Imagine starcraft where most units are never built at tournaments. edit: actually trying to imagine such starcraft made me think, why the hell not - if all those non-viable units are fun to jerk around with in casual games
Nocture, annie support, fizz were underplayed and were considered jokes in competitive play. But after some exposure they got instapopular. Its not designers fault people didn't play them before. More likely pro's prefer to go with safe pick, especially when so much is on the line.
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On September 21 2013 06:22 murphs wrote:
Protoss is the biggest problem with SC2. The entire race was designed on the back of a torn napkin 3 days before beta was launched,
You find TvZ more interesting now a days?
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On October 03 2013 17:31 rename wrote:
Imagine starcraft where most units are never built at tournaments.
This is already happening.
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I feel like the main issues is that its not super entertaining to watch. You see the same things over and over and over. How many times do you want to see the same thing over and over?
As far as growth goes What are the people that are running the scene doing to bring more people into it? Are they just telling people who already know about starcraft about starcraft or are they telling people who don't know about it? I'm pretty sure its the former. If you want the scene to grow you need to more people into it. You can't keep telling people that already play starcraft about starcraft, they already know.
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I think SC 2 is just boring to me. I watched it because I played it. But I got over it. Now I watch dota because i play it lol
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On October 03 2013 06:19 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 01:05 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 03 2013 00:46 Xiphos wrote:On October 03 2013 00:04 The_Red_Viper wrote:On October 03 2013 00:01 Xiphos wrote:On October 02 2013 23:49 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 02 2013 23:47 Xiphos wrote:On October 02 2013 23:34 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 02 2013 23:33 Nevermind86 wrote:On October 02 2013 23:29 KeksX wrote:
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So you don't like the game and think it's not fun and then just assume "Well obviously this game must suck then!".
Alright. You may want to read my arguments in it's entirety. And no, I love SC and loved SC2, but my love for SC2 quickly died, in about a year and a half but I'm sure I was not the only one that went through that. My love for SC1 died after 5 games i actually played in it. So, yes, you cannot talk for all. 5 games...*chuckles* Competitively, you barely know how to even play the game after you play all three races in all matchups to get a sense of the game flow. Stop playing a game with a disgruntle mood, you need to dismiss all personal egos going into the game or else you get frustrated and call it a quit because of BW's complexity and deciding options. I loved this paragraph of yours. Because you know, i am not fast enough to play the game and love it in the same time . See, i either play the game, or love it :D. BW is good game, but playing it? Pfft, my wrists worth more. Lol now I know for a fact you suck at it and only quit out of frustration. Quite the indolence, complacency, and baseless arrogance to boost. I bid you good luck with those qualities. So when someone quits sc2 its cause he had no fun. When someone quits BW its cause he sucks so hard and its his own fault. Interesting. Incomplete at hand, he explicitly stated that he has only played 5 games of BW which is not nearly enough to even understand the game while the other guy have been playing for 1.5 years. After that much time grinding a game, you proved yourself to be adept at its knowledge while someone who played a mere of 5 games is most likely to be full of it. I explicitly stated my love for BW died after 5 games of it. I never said i played 5 games of it (more like 50 + who the hell knows how many games watched, but around 50 as well probably, as i never really liked to watch BW, it sucks as spectator sport) . So, yes, do not make a logical conclusions, when you talk to me, you will just confuse everyone. Granted, i won't deny i was not good at it, i was rather casual at it (D level). "do no make a logical conclusions, when you talk to me." So the concept of "logical sense" is completely off the table when conversing with you..its cool to know that you can't accept logic. And I suppose that with all evidences attest the authenticity of that statement since you chose to love something even before trying it first and then later contradict yourself by stating that you "never really liked to watch the BW". That being said, you are the confused, uninformed, and ignorant one here. Please do not attempt to drag everyone down with you on that boat.
Ahah seriously...
This looks like a non-reasoning person's idea of a debate. You are trying to prove he's wrong for disliking something. That is stupid on so many levels.
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The problem with SC2 is that it is named Starcraft and it tried to replace BW.
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On October 03 2013 23:42 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 06:19 Xiphos wrote:On October 03 2013 01:05 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 03 2013 00:46 Xiphos wrote:On October 03 2013 00:04 The_Red_Viper wrote:On October 03 2013 00:01 Xiphos wrote:On October 02 2013 23:49 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 02 2013 23:47 Xiphos wrote:On October 02 2013 23:34 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 02 2013 23:33 Nevermind86 wrote:
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You may want to read my arguments in it's entirety. And no, I love SC and loved SC2, but my love for SC2 quickly died, in about a year and a half but I'm sure I was not the only one that went through that. My love for SC1 died after 5 games i actually played in it. So, yes, you cannot talk for all. 5 games...*chuckles* Competitively, you barely know how to even play the game after you play all three races in all matchups to get a sense of the game flow. Stop playing a game with a disgruntle mood, you need to dismiss all personal egos going into the game or else you get frustrated and call it a quit because of BW's complexity and deciding options. I loved this paragraph of yours. Because you know, i am not fast enough to play the game and love it in the same time . See, i either play the game, or love it :D. BW is good game, but playing it? Pfft, my wrists worth more. Lol now I know for a fact you suck at it and only quit out of frustration. Quite the indolence, complacency, and baseless arrogance to boost. I bid you good luck with those qualities. So when someone quits sc2 its cause he had no fun. When someone quits BW its cause he sucks so hard and its his own fault. Interesting. Incomplete at hand, he explicitly stated that he has only played 5 games of BW which is not nearly enough to even understand the game while the other guy have been playing for 1.5 years. After that much time grinding a game, you proved yourself to be adept at its knowledge while someone who played a mere of 5 games is most likely to be full of it. I explicitly stated my love for BW died after 5 games of it. I never said i played 5 games of it (more like 50 + who the hell knows how many games watched, but around 50 as well probably, as i never really liked to watch BW, it sucks as spectator sport) . So, yes, do not make a logical conclusions, when you talk to me, you will just confuse everyone. Granted, i won't deny i was not good at it, i was rather casual at it (D level). "do no make a logical conclusions, when you talk to me." So the concept of "logical sense" is completely off the table when conversing with you..its cool to know that you can't accept logic. And I suppose that with all evidences attest the authenticity of that statement since you chose to love something even before trying it first and then later contradict yourself by stating that you "never really liked to watch the BW". That being said, you are the confused, uninformed, and ignorant one here. Please do not attempt to drag everyone down with you on that boat. Ahah seriously... This looks like a non-reasoning person's idea of a debate. You are trying to prove he's wrong for disliking something. That is stupid on so many levels.
And you are trying to make an argument without any form of evidence to back up your claim. Now that is just like saying "Oh I dislike the fact at hand, but can't find a method to disprove it so I'm just going to resort to name callings because my ineptitude. " Refrain from doing that in the future.
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On October 04 2013 00:00 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 23:42 Nebuchad wrote:On October 03 2013 06:19 Xiphos wrote:On October 03 2013 01:05 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 03 2013 00:46 Xiphos wrote:On October 03 2013 00:04 The_Red_Viper wrote:On October 03 2013 00:01 Xiphos wrote:On October 02 2013 23:49 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 02 2013 23:47 Xiphos wrote:On October 02 2013 23:34 lolfail9001 wrote:
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My love for SC1 died after 5 games i actually played in it. So, yes, you cannot talk for all. 5 games...*chuckles* Competitively, you barely know how to even play the game after you play all three races in all matchups to get a sense of the game flow. Stop playing a game with a disgruntle mood, you need to dismiss all personal egos going into the game or else you get frustrated and call it a quit because of BW's complexity and deciding options. I loved this paragraph of yours. Because you know, i am not fast enough to play the game and love it in the same time . See, i either play the game, or love it :D. BW is good game, but playing it? Pfft, my wrists worth more. Lol now I know for a fact you suck at it and only quit out of frustration. Quite the indolence, complacency, and baseless arrogance to boost. I bid you good luck with those qualities. So when someone quits sc2 its cause he had no fun. When someone quits BW its cause he sucks so hard and its his own fault. Interesting. Incomplete at hand, he explicitly stated that he has only played 5 games of BW which is not nearly enough to even understand the game while the other guy have been playing for 1.5 years. After that much time grinding a game, you proved yourself to be adept at its knowledge while someone who played a mere of 5 games is most likely to be full of it. I explicitly stated my love for BW died after 5 games of it. I never said i played 5 games of it (more like 50 + who the hell knows how many games watched, but around 50 as well probably, as i never really liked to watch BW, it sucks as spectator sport) . So, yes, do not make a logical conclusions, when you talk to me, you will just confuse everyone. Granted, i won't deny i was not good at it, i was rather casual at it (D level). "do no make a logical conclusions, when you talk to me." So the concept of "logical sense" is completely off the table when conversing with you..its cool to know that you can't accept logic. And I suppose that with all evidences attest the authenticity of that statement since you chose to love something even before trying it first and then later contradict yourself by stating that you "never really liked to watch the BW". That being said, you are the confused, uninformed, and ignorant one here. Please do not attempt to drag everyone down with you on that boat. Ahah seriously... This looks like a non-reasoning person's idea of a debate. You are trying to prove he's wrong for disliking something. That is stupid on so many levels. And you are trying to make an argument without any form of evidence to back up your claim. Now that is just like saying "Oh I dislike the fact at hand, but can't find a method to disprove it so I'm just going to resort to name callings because my ineptitude. " Refrain from doing that in the future.
Have you ever heard of the term "subjective"?
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On October 03 2013 17:37 NukeD wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 17:31 rename wrote:On October 03 2013 17:04 saddaromma wrote:On October 02 2013 16:38 SCguineapig wrote:
the thing is, the game is finished. blizzard can't redesign this game anymore. perhaps with LOTV but if they don't set a insanely large team on it, that game will be delayed by perhaps even 2 years. i believe blizzard needs to change it's course a bit though. focus less on wanting to promote harassment and work more on things that are a bit imbalanced. don't nerf or buff something because a certain strategy is being used for a longer period of time. as long as it works it is viable. no need to fuck up the entire game though with a redesign. could be awesome but it could also fail miserably. Not really hard to make a decent game with what they have. They just need some talented guys like icefrog or riot devs. Check out this map: Starbow. Im not that sure about those riot devs ... i mean, about 60% of the champions there are never picked in competitive enviroment. Imagine starcraft where most units are never built at tournaments. edit: actually trying to imagine such starcraft made me think, why the hell not - if all those non-viable units are fun to jerk around with in casual games Erm.... No need to imagine when we already have the real thing.
Erm.... if we actually consider all MUs together we only end up with pretty much all units but carriers and mommaship (the real one, and both of those were intended to never ever be used) being used in game.
Also, i am too lazy to quote you, the ones who went on to bash me based on my opinion about my relation with BW (relation being: 'i play it because i am bored and do not want to bother to think alot' and not 'i play it because i love it'), but i will just answer that in fact, bashing someone based on his opinion about game you happen to love (and i am not even bashing BW there, because i am sane person, who does not bash games of old), is not a good thing.
Also, as someone pointed out well, SC2 just does not feel like fun (well, i did not play alot of games, and only really fun game for me was NFS3, but that's way out of topic). Why is that? Who knows, but most of points in this thread do not answer it.On October 04 2013 00:10 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2013 00:07 Dundron2000 wrote:On October 04 2013 00:00 Xiphos wrote:On October 03 2013 23:42 Nebuchad wrote:On October 03 2013 06:19 Xiphos wrote:On October 03 2013 01:05 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 03 2013 00:46 Xiphos wrote:On October 03 2013 00:04 The_Red_Viper wrote:On October 03 2013 00:01 Xiphos wrote:On October 02 2013 23:49 lolfail9001 wrote:[quote] I loved this paragraph of yours. Because you know, i am not fast enough to play the game and love it in the same time . See, i either play the game, or love it :D. BW is good game, but playing it? Pfft, my wrists worth more. Lol now I know for a fact you suck at it and only quit out of frustration. Quite the indolence, complacency, and baseless arrogance to boost. I bid you good luck with those qualities. So when someone quits sc2 its cause he had no fun. When someone quits BW its cause he sucks so hard and its his own fault. Interesting. Incomplete at hand, he explicitly stated that he has only played 5 games of BW which is not nearly enough to even understand the game while the other guy have been playing for 1.5 years. After that much time grinding a game, you proved yourself to be adept at its knowledge while someone who played a mere of 5 games is most likely to be full of it. I explicitly stated my love for BW died after 5 games of it. I never said i played 5 games of it (more like 50 + who the hell knows how many games watched, but around 50 as well probably, as i never really liked to watch BW, it sucks as spectator sport) . So, yes, do not make a logical conclusions, when you talk to me, you will just confuse everyone. Granted, i won't deny i was not good at it, i was rather casual at it (D level). "do no make a logical conclusions, when you talk to me." So the concept of "logical sense" is completely off the table when conversing with you..its cool to know that you can't accept logic. And I suppose that with all evidences attest the authenticity of that statement since you chose to love something even before trying it first and then later contradict yourself by stating that you "never really liked to watch the BW". That being said, you are the confused, uninformed, and ignorant one here. Please do not attempt to drag everyone down with you on that boat. Ahah seriously... This looks like a non-reasoning person's idea of a debate. You are trying to prove he's wrong for disliking something. That is stupid on so many levels. And you are trying to make an argument without any form of evidence to back up your claim. Now that is just like saying "Oh I dislike the fact at hand, but can't find a method to disprove it so I'm just going to resort to name callings because my ineptitude. " Refrain from doing that in the future. Have you ever heard of the term "subjective"? Have you ever heard the term "irrelevance"?
My original statement may be irrelevant, but it was just an example, that you cannot use your opinion for everyone for some posters that actually used their opinion as talking for everyone. For one, my opinion is only correct for me (perhaps someone else, but who the hell cares).
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