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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17725 Posts
October 28 2013 00:39 GMT
#1481
On October 28 2013 09:37 hzflank wrote:
It calculates odds by running a simulation a few million times. Every time that you run it you might get very slightly different results.

If you wanted to calculate the odds directly (no simulations) then you would have to rewrite the formula after ever tournament / game.

Actually if you wanna talk programming then it could be done with a back tracking method instead of monte carlo. It would be as accurate as can be and wouldn't be much harder than monte carlo. But to simulate a full season with back tracking would require like terabytes of ram and a ton of cpu time too lol.
"Expert" mods4ever.com
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
October 28 2013 00:40 GMT
#1482
There are only three scenarios left, so the fancy simulations have finally reached their conclusion.

1. Revival does not make Top 2 in his Challenger WCS AM group. Naniwa goes to BlizzCon as the 16th player to play against Soulkey in the Ro16.
2. Revival makes Top 2 in his Challenger WCS AM group. Revival and Naniwa go to BlizzCon to play a Bo5 tiebreaker. Naniwa wins and becomes the 16th player to play against Soulkey in the Ro16.
3. Revival makes Top 2 in his Challenger WCS AM group. Revival and Naniwa go to BlizzCon to play a Bo5 tiebreaker. Revival wins and becomes the 16th player to play against Soulkey in the Ro16.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17725 Posts
October 28 2013 00:42 GMT
#1483
On October 28 2013 09:40 dcemuser wrote:
There are only three scenarios left, so the fancy simulations have finally reached their conclusion.

1. Revival does not make Top 2 in his Challenger WCS AM group. Naniwa goes to BlizzCon as the 16th player to play against Soulkey in the Ro16.
2. Revival makes Top 2 in his Challenger WCS AM group. Revival and Naniwa go to BlizzCon to play a Bo5 tiebreaker. Naniwa wins and becomes the 16th player to play against Soulkey in the Ro16.
3. Revival makes Top 2 in his Challenger WCS AM group. Revival and Naniwa go to BlizzCon to play a Bo5 tiebreaker. Revival wins and becomes the 16th player to play against Soulkey in the Ro16.

Yea there's no reason for me to update this anymore. It's been a fun season. I look forward to doing WCS Predictor 2014!
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dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
October 28 2013 00:43 GMT
#1484
On October 28 2013 09:42 Die4Ever wrote:
Yea there's no reason for me to update this anymore. It's been a fun season. I look forward to doing WCS Predictor 2014!

I look forward to spam refreshing it like I have this thread.

Thanks for the great work Die4Ever!
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
October 28 2013 00:49 GMT
#1485
Great work, ty for the efforts
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 28 2013 00:49 GMT
#1486
thanks a lot for keeping me awake, sleepless at night, going over different possibilities and players' chances <3
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 28 2013 00:51 GMT
#1487
Thanks for running this thread
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Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
October 28 2013 01:20 GMT
#1488
Revival making it to blizzcon feels so weird
illidanx
Profile Joined November 2011
United States973 Posts
October 28 2013 01:26 GMT
#1489
Oh dear...
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Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
October 28 2013 01:29 GMT
#1490
what are the scenarios for the Ro16 bracket seeds, though? Are Naniwa/Revival and Mvp/Alive the only remaining variables?
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
October 28 2013 01:31 GMT
#1491
On October 28 2013 10:29 Popkiller wrote:
what are the scenarios for the Ro16 bracket seeds, though? Are Naniwa/Revival and Mvp/Alive the only remaining variables?

Yes. aLive wins his Challenger League group, he faces Polt, Mvp faces Jaedong. If aLive doesn't win his Challenger League group, Mvp faces Polt, aLive faces Jaedong.

If Revival wins his Challenger League group, tiebreaker match vs. NaNiwa for 16th place, if Revival doesn't win his Challenger League match, NaNiwa is the 16th seed.
TimKim0713
Profile Joined June 2012
Korea (South)221 Posts
October 28 2013 01:36 GMT
#1492
Since all games are played, is there no solution for revival to get into blizzcon finals?
LastLordofCastamere
Profile Joined February 2011
288 Posts
October 28 2013 01:37 GMT
#1493
Thanks Die4Ever for all the hard work!
"And who are you", the proud lord said "That I must bow so low?"
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17725 Posts
October 28 2013 01:40 GMT
#1494
new update from my latest simulation, Dear has a 100% chance to win Blizzcon. lol
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Darkdwarf
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
October 28 2013 01:40 GMT
#1495
Thanks Die4Ever for your work in this thread, it has been a pleasure to f5 it!
Teams: IM, Jin Air, Invictus || Players: Maru, GuMiho, INnoVation, Ryung, sOs, Squirtle, NaNiwa, Has, Zoun, Life, Rogue, Dark
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
October 28 2013 01:41 GMT
#1496
On October 28 2013 10:31 Elite_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 10:29 Popkiller wrote:
what are the scenarios for the Ro16 bracket seeds, though? Are Naniwa/Revival and Mvp/Alive the only remaining variables?

Yes. aLive wins his Challenger League group, he faces Polt, Mvp faces Jaedong. If aLive doesn't win his Challenger League group, Mvp faces Polt, aLive faces Jaedong.

If Revival wins his Challenger League group, tiebreaker match vs. NaNiwa for 16th place, if Revival doesn't win his Challenger League match, NaNiwa is the 16th seed.


hang on, are Mvp and Alive actually tied? Blizzards WCS website has Mvp at 3575 points, not 3600:

http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en/standings
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
October 28 2013 01:44 GMT
#1497
On October 28 2013 10:41 Popkiller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 10:31 Elite_ wrote:
On October 28 2013 10:29 Popkiller wrote:
what are the scenarios for the Ro16 bracket seeds, though? Are Naniwa/Revival and Mvp/Alive the only remaining variables?

Yes. aLive wins his Challenger League group, he faces Polt, Mvp faces Jaedong. If aLive doesn't win his Challenger League group, Mvp faces Polt, aLive faces Jaedong.

If Revival wins his Challenger League group, tiebreaker match vs. NaNiwa for 16th place, if Revival doesn't win his Challenger League match, NaNiwa is the 16th seed.


hang on, are Mvp and Alive actually tied? Blizzards WCS website has Mvp at 3575 points, not 3600:

http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en/standings

Blizzard's WCS site didn't give Mvp his points for his Challenger League group stage, then.
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
October 28 2013 01:44 GMT
#1498
Thank you Die4Ever! One of the best part about WCS was following your thread to see the probabilities on who would qualify for blizzcon.
Don't mind me
Dragoonstorm7
Profile Joined December 2012
United States599 Posts
October 28 2013 02:08 GMT
#1499
On October 28 2013 10:44 Elite_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 10:41 Popkiller wrote:
On October 28 2013 10:31 Elite_ wrote:
On October 28 2013 10:29 Popkiller wrote:
what are the scenarios for the Ro16 bracket seeds, though? Are Naniwa/Revival and Mvp/Alive the only remaining variables?

Yes. aLive wins his Challenger League group, he faces Polt, Mvp faces Jaedong. If aLive doesn't win his Challenger League group, Mvp faces Polt, aLive faces Jaedong.

If Revival wins his Challenger League group, tiebreaker match vs. NaNiwa for 16th place, if Revival doesn't win his Challenger League match, NaNiwa is the 16th seed.


hang on, are Mvp and Alive actually tied? Blizzards WCS website has Mvp at 3575 points, not 3600:

http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en/standings

Blizzard's WCS site didn't give Mvp his points for his Challenger League group stage, then.

The rankings on Blizzards site have been wrong half the time
Liquipedia is always right
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thekoalaz
Profile Joined October 2011
United States109 Posts
October 28 2013 02:23 GMT
#1500
This post was so filled with awesome. Thanks!
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