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JazzJackrabbit
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1272 Posts
October 28 2013 02:30 GMT
#1501
So, MVP and Alive have the same number of points. Do we know who gets 13th and 14th seeds respectively and how it's determined?
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
October 28 2013 02:33 GMT
#1502
On October 28 2013 11:30 JazzJackrabbit wrote:
So, MVP and Alive have the same number of points. Do we know who gets 13th and 14th seeds respectively and how it's determined?

According to rules: ties within the top 16 WCS players will be decided by cumulative points earned only in World Championship Series America, Europe, Korea, and Season Finals events.

Mvp's 3600 points came solely from WCS Europe and Season 1 Finals while aLive has 225 from IEM Shanghai so Mvp will be #13 playing against Polt and aLive at #14 playing against Jaedong.
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juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
October 28 2013 02:34 GMT
#1503
On October 28 2013 11:30 JazzJackrabbit wrote:
So, MVP and Alive have the same number of points. Do we know who gets 13th and 14th seeds respectively and how it's determined?

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/11292338
Ties within the top 16 WCS players will be decided by cumulative points earned only in World Championship Series America, Europe, Korea, and Season Finals events. If a tie remains, it will be settled through points earned only in WCS Tier 1 events. If the players in question are still tied, seeding will be decided by coin-toss.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 28 2013 02:34 GMT
#1504
aLive can still earn 25 more points from WCS AM Challenger groups. Otherwise it's more points during WCS regular season events I think so Mvp would get the higher seed
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
October 28 2013 02:51 GMT
#1505
On October 28 2013 11:34 Shellshock wrote:
aLive can still earn 25 more points from WCS AM Challenger groups. Otherwise it's more points during WCS regular season events I think so Mvp would get the higher seed

If aLive makes out of his challenger group then he will be #13 at 3625 playing against Polt while Mvp at #14 with 3600 playing against Jaedong.
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Serpest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States603 Posts
October 28 2013 04:31 GMT
#1506
Hang on one second..... We're all talking about the Revival v Naniwa matchup as if Revival only has to finish his WCS AM Challenger bracket....

Remember, this is REVIVAL we're talking about. He has two matches to take care of before he can reach Blizzcon.

His first match is the group stage Challenger bracket.... and his second (drum roll please)...

His second match is versus the American Embassy.
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iMrising
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1099 Posts
October 28 2013 05:18 GMT
#1507
wait im confused
if Revival wins his challenger group, isn't he tied with Naniwa on the amount of points?
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Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
October 28 2013 05:35 GMT
#1508
On October 28 2013 14:18 iMrising wrote:
wait im confused
if Revival wins his challenger group, isn't he tied with Naniwa on the amount of points?

Yes, and then both will go to Blizzcon and play a bo5 for the last spot.
Dragoonstorm7
Profile Joined December 2012
United States599 Posts
October 28 2013 05:40 GMT
#1509
On October 28 2013 13:31 Serpest wrote:
Hang on one second..... We're all talking about the Revival v Naniwa matchup as if Revival only has to finish his WCS AM Challenger bracket....

Remember, this is REVIVAL we're talking about. He has two matches to take care of before he can reach Blizzcon.

His first match is the group stage Challenger bracket.... and his second (drum roll please)...

His second match is versus the American Embassy.

? First of all, the bracket stage is done. Whats left to play is the group stage. Secondly, Revival hasnt had visa issues. He attended IEM NY just a couple weeks ago, which, last time I checked, was in America.
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Beirut
Profile Joined January 2011
United States673 Posts
October 28 2013 05:46 GMT
#1510
This post was a great community resource, thank you for all the effort!
Incand
Profile Joined November 2012
143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 05:53:07
October 28 2013 05:51 GMT
#1511
Im bit a confused about the Nani revival situvation so if someone could clarify where im going wrong it would be appreciated.
Naniwa currently got 3200 points while revival have 3175.
Revival is going to play the challenger league group stage. Now the liquidpedia page(http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_3_America/Challenger ) says the winning in points is 100 for 1st-8th (revival didn't)
50 for 9th-24th place (qualify for premier) and 25 for 25th-40th.

So by my logic if Revival gets first or second in his group he wins 50 points and end up with 3225 points which is more than naniwa. While if isn't in the top 2 he gets 25 points anyway and is tied with naniwa.
So since everyone is speaking of them getting tied regardless how revival do (or if he wins).. i really don't understand. Is the point distrubution wrong? Isn't top 2 equal top 9th-24th place? does a difference of 25 points constitute a draw? Is my brain playing stupid and tricking me?
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 05:52:29
October 28 2013 05:51 GMT
#1512
On October 28 2013 14:40 Dragoonstorm7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 13:31 Serpest wrote:
Hang on one second..... We're all talking about the Revival v Naniwa matchup as if Revival only has to finish his WCS AM Challenger bracket....

Remember, this is REVIVAL we're talking about. He has two matches to take care of before he can reach Blizzcon.

His first match is the group stage Challenger bracket.... and his second (drum roll please)...

His second match is versus the American Embassy.

? First of all, the bracket stage is done. Whats left to play is the group stage. Secondly, Revival hasnt had visa issues. He attended IEM NY just a couple weeks ago, which, last time I checked, was in America.

he must have revival confused with a chinese player? why else would he think revival would have visa problems when he hasn't before?

On October 28 2013 14:51 Incand wrote:
Im bit a confused about the Nani revival situvation so if someone could clarify where im going wrong it would be appreciated.
Naniwa currently got 3200 points while revival have 3175.
Revival is going to play the challenger league group stage. Now the liquidpedia page(http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_3_America/Challenger ) says the winning in points is 100 for 1st-8th (revival didn't)
50 for 9th-24th place (qualify for premier) and 25 for 25th-40th.

So by my logic if Revival gets first or second in his group he wins 50 points and end up with 3225 points which is more than naniwa. While if isn't in the top 2 he gets 25 points anyway and is tied with naniwa.
So since everyone is speaking of them getting tied regardless how revival do (or if he wins).. i really don't understand. Is the point distrubution wrong? does a difference of 25 points constitute a draw? Is my brain playing stupid and tricking me?

the 25 points he earned for 25th-40th are already counted in the standings
Incand
Profile Joined November 2012
143 Posts
October 28 2013 05:54 GMT
#1513
On October 28 2013 14:51 Waise wrote:
the 25 points he earned for 25th-40th are already counted in the standings

Ty, that made sense.
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
October 28 2013 10:01 GMT
#1514
Thanks Die4ever, it's been quite a ride!
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Holloworb
Profile Joined November 2011
Norway345 Posts
October 28 2013 11:25 GMT
#1515
Fantastic work!
MavivaM
Profile Joined November 2011
1535 Posts
October 28 2013 11:45 GMT
#1516
This thread has been extremely useful and extremely well organised, I checked it about each time I was on TL since its creation.
Thanks Die4ever, seriously.
Your Opinion has been counted. Only 3 more Opinions needed for a reddit thread.
absinthfee
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany718 Posts
October 28 2013 12:05 GMT
#1517
Thanks Die4ever!
As a fellow programmer, I can imagine how much work it must have been to put this together.
ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
October 28 2013 12:19 GMT
#1518
Thanks for all the hard work man, one of the best threads here in a long time, kept making me come back for more!
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illu23
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany71 Posts
October 28 2013 12:30 GMT
#1519
When will Revival's CL match be played?
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crow_mw
Profile Joined March 2012
Poland115 Posts
October 28 2013 13:23 GMT
#1520
It was great fun following those calculations. Now however this thread should die forever.
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