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Auction OSL Finals - Maru defeats Rain 4 - 2

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Auction OSL Finals - Maru defeats Rain 4 - 2

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August 10th, 2013 14:00 GMT
2013 WCS KOREA

Auction Starleague Finals



Brackets and Results on Liquipedia

VODs on Twitch

Maru Wins the Auction OSL

by Waxangel

(T)MaruPrime followed the Royal Road to the promised land, defeating (P)SKT_Rain 4 – 2 to become the Auction Starleague champion. Despite suffering two, one-sided losses against the defending champion Rain to begin the series, Maru only became stronger under adversity, turning things around to win four straight games. Those four games were reminiscent of his semi-final match against INnoVation, where he took win after landslide win, while the player many had considered his superior was sent reeling with no recourse.

4

MaruPrime

(T)Maru <Akilon Wastes> (P)Rain
(T)Maru <Anaconda> (P)Rain
(T)Maru <Bel'Shir Vestige> (P)Rain
(T)Maru <Star Station> (P)Rain
(T)Maru <Newkirk Redev Precinct> (P)Rain
(T)Maru <Whirlwind> (P)Rain
(T)Maru <Gwangalli Beach> (P)Rain

Maru wins the Auction All-Kill Starleague!
2

SKT_Rain


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It was the crowning achievement of an unlikely tournament run, as well as one of a long pro-gaming career. Despite being just sixteen years old, Maru came into the tournament as one of the most experienced veterans of the GSL, but one who had failed to distinguish himself as much more than a spot-filler in the thirty-two man Code S. Thus, it was easy to dismiss Maru's run through the the Ro32 and Ro16 of the Auction Starleague as being just a hot run from an otherwise mediocre player. However, a quarter-final win against Symbol, a semi-final sweep against INnoVation, and a grand finals 4 - 2 victory against Rain proved that this was not the Maru of old, but one who had matured in the new era of Heart of the Swarm.

With his victory, Maru became the youngest Royal Roader in OSL history, and brought the beleaguered PRIME team their first Korean title in a year. With his mother crying in the audience and head coach Gerrard fighting back tears as well, Maru offered only a measured amount of outward happiness, true to his reserved demeanor. While some newcomer champions fail to grasp the difficulty and weight of their achievement, it was hard to think that was the case with a veteran of so many failed campaigns like Maru. Perhaps, instead, he was already looking ahead not just to the next challenge at the WCS Season II Finals, but the many more triumphs that might lie ahead in his limitless career.

Game Recaps

Game One - Akilon Wastes: Game one was pretty much a perfect "Rain Game," with the SKT Protoss being allowed to showcase his safety-first style perfectly. Both players opened up with perfectly normal builds, cutting no corners and playing it almost as safe as possible. Rain shut down any attempts Maru had at dropping before they even started, and built up toward his army of death. At some point Maru had to have realized that he had allowed his opponent to do exactly what he wanted and that he was very, very dead, but it was too late by then. Rain pushed out, wiped Maru in the only major engagement of the game, and took the GG. Rain 1 - 0 Maru.

Game Two - Anaconda: Maru decided to go for one of his and teammate ByuN's favorite TvP openers in game two, going for marines, hellions, and a medivac off one base to apply some early game pressure. While Maru did some damage, using his troops to attack both the main and natural together, he was unable to make the attack worth its cost. A follow-up banshee did even less, leaving Maru in a tough spot. Already in a difficult position, things got even worse for Maru as Rain took advantage of his well-placed forward pylon, counter-attacking immediately after killing most of Maru's troops. Rain's attacks took Maru from behind to irrevocably behind, and he GG'd out after offering some token resistance. Rain 2 - 0 Maru.

Game Three - Bel'Shir Vestige: Undaunted by having one of his favorite aggressive builds shut down in game two, Maru went for another one of his signature strats in game three: double proxy-barracks. Although Rain put up an admirable defense, he could not keep up with Maru's impeccable micro and tapped out. Maru 1 - 2 Rain.

Game Four - Star Station: After a very short game three, the series went back to longer games as the players landed on Star Station. Maru decided to go for a mixture of standard and aggressive from his previous games, making a fairly fast expand but also applying some pressure with a marine-mine drop. However, Rain's defense was solid, with cannons already in place to defend the harassment. Afterward the game flowed along normally, which did not seem to bode well for Maru given how game one has turned out. As more minutes passed, Rain looked to be in better and better shape with great upgrades and tech.

Unfortunately for Rain, it took just one sensational engagement from Maru to make everything come crashing down. With vikings, infantry, and most critically, EMPs that blanketed Rain's army, Maru was able completely rout Rain's army in a max-out fight, coming out with a sixty supply lead. Maru marched his remaining across the map to Rain's territory, and with the help of an endless stream of reinforcements, collected the surrender from Rain. Maru 2 - 2 Rain.

Game Five - Newkirk Redevelopment Precinct: With the score tied up, Maru opted to take another risk, but this time it was an economic risk. Going up quickly to three command centers and two engineering bays, Maru looked to take an advantage over his famously risk-averse opponent. However, a good mothership core scout came in at the right time, revealing Maru's plans to Rain.

Whether it was his original plan or a change of direction, Rain decided he would try to punish Maru's greed by going for an immortal + gateway unit all-in off two bases. With just one bunker up, Maru appeared to be in danger as Rain approached, but a critical sighting of the forward pylon tipped Maru off before it was too late. Four bunkers went up his natural, completing just in time to repel the attack. Fully committed to the all-in, Rain tried to force his way through, but it was for naught. Maru's defenses were set, with stim and medivacs soon on the way. After a doomed attempt to play the game out normally, Rain surrendered to give Maru the series lead. Maru 3 - 2 Rain.

Game Six - Whirlwind: With everything on the line, Rain opted to diverge from his normal, safety-first style once more, going for quick dark templar drops while taking a fast third as well. On the other hand, Maru was content to play things out normally once more, taking a fast expansion on the lower ground.

Once again, Rain's gambit did not go as well as planned, with Maru having the awareness and spare scans on hand to wipe out the DTs and minimize the damage taken. With almost no time brought at all with his DT drop, Rain scrambled to put together some kind of defense against Maru's impending stim and medivac timing that threatened to strike his expansion. Although Rain did manage to push out a few immortals and sentries, his force-fields were not good enough to overcome the overwhelming might and numbers of Maru's bio. Rain was forced to give up his third, his natural, and finally, the OSL championship.

Maru 4 - 2 Rain.

More WCS Korea / Starleague Coverage

July 22 – First and Rain advance to Ro8 after triple tiebreakers.
July 17 – SuperNoVa secures his Ro8 spot while First faces the possibility of tie-breakers.
July 12 – Soulkey, Bomber, Maru cinch Ro8 spots; PartinG and Flash eliminated.
July 10 – First continues his surprise run, defeating Rain to go up 2 - 0 in Group B.
July 3 – First's immaculate PvT shines on first day of Ro16 matches
June 28 – SKT duo of PartinG and Rain advance from the final day of the Ro32
June 28 – Groups for Starleague Ro16 announced, Innovation and Flash in group B.

Writers: Waxangel
Graphics: wo1fwood.
Editor: Waxangel.
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BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 14:19:00
August 10 2013 14:10 GMT
#2
Thanks for the write up.

Congratulations Maru!

Maybe now the Power Rank will respect his achievements. He just defeated the #1 and #2 consecutively and won the most difficult individual tournament in the world.

There is no doubt who is the best SC2 player in the world right now.
TXRaunchy
Profile Joined June 2013
United States131 Posts
August 10 2013 14:11 GMT
#3
I blame Rain's loss to the Artosis curse. He said 4-2 Rain...Nooo. Terran so OP
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
August 10 2013 14:13 GMT
#4
So happy Maru took it and got the record and royal roader. Though Rain defending would have been nice as well.
I can only imagine Rains thought after the 3rd game "Omg I am gonna get allined 3 times in a row now and end up like Innovation".
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
August 10 2013 14:13 GMT
#5
I'm starting to think Artosis is a wizard who got in deep with the sharks and decided this was the best way to pay off his debts.

All kidding aside, congratulations to Maru and thanks for the write up.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
August 10 2013 14:15 GMT
#6
The crowd was absolutely amazing too and filled up a very large amount. Also got some badass items from the trip from SKT1
winthrop
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Hong Kong956 Posts
August 10 2013 14:17 GMT
#7
MaruPrime rorolllled SKT_rain.
hope prime can get a sponsor soon
Incredible Miracle
VKCA
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada391 Posts
August 10 2013 14:20 GMT
#8
Huh. Not how I thought that would play out. I was hoping we'd have jim/naniwa/rain triple toss wins. Oh well, gg maru
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
August 10 2013 14:21 GMT
#9
Rain Q.Q.
Artosis killed the Protoss incumbent yet again. Dat curse.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
August 10 2013 14:36 GMT
#10
On August 10 2013 23:10 BronzeKnee wrote:
Thanks for the write up.

Congratulations Maru!

Maybe now the Power Rank will respect his achievements. He just defeated the #1 and #2 consecutively and won the most difficult individual tournament in the world.

There is no doubt who is the best SC2 player in the world right now.


No, while Maru's run is impressive, I'd still say Innovation is top dog
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
August 10 2013 14:50 GMT
#11
Great write up!

So happy for Maru. At a time when many people are questioning the future of a lot of eSF teams, Maru brings a win home for PRIME. And doing it at such a young age, too. Guess he's still technically a veteran, though. So happy for him.
Long live the King of Wings
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 10 2013 14:50 GMT
#12
Thanks for the recap! Happy for Maru seeing his family there cheer him on was even more awesome
Moderatorlickypiddy
hsiyyap852
Profile Joined July 2012
Philippines5 Posts
August 10 2013 14:50 GMT
#13
ESF :D!
(Poor Protoss we really should win a big Korean tournament once in a while...)
9-BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
August 10 2013 14:55 GMT
#14
I wish Maru would have pointed to his ESF badge after winning. GG
kwark_uk: @father_sc learn to play maybe?
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
August 10 2013 14:58 GMT
#15
Happy with Maru's victory. Now, will he follow the path and become a new Flash or Life?
ModeratorFather of bunnies
thekoalaz
Profile Joined October 2011
United States109 Posts
August 10 2013 14:59 GMT
#16
Maru is so awesome.

Congratulations!
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33487 Posts
August 10 2013 14:59 GMT
#17
On August 10 2013 23:36 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 23:10 BronzeKnee wrote:
Thanks for the write up.

Congratulations Maru!

Maybe now the Power Rank will respect his achievements. He just defeated the #1 and #2 consecutively and won the most difficult individual tournament in the world.

There is no doubt who is the best SC2 player in the world right now.


No, while Maru's run is impressive, I'd still say Innovation is top dog


hey, season finals in 2 weeks anyway, wait up -_~
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
jonich0n
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1982 Posts
August 10 2013 15:03 GMT
#18
that's gonna be a damn good finals (imagine Taeja, Polt, Scarlett, Jaedong possibly being there)
(>'.')>
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
August 10 2013 15:05 GMT
#19
Artosis beats Rain!
AKMU / IU
Darkthorn
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania912 Posts
August 10 2013 15:07 GMT
#20
On August 10 2013 23:50 hsiyyap852 wrote:
ESF :D!
(Poor Protoss we really should win a big Korean tournament once in a while...)

ye poor protoss having a finalist in wcs kr and 6/8 in wcs eu and 3/8 in wcs NA...the race is so bad it's not even funny.
Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
August 10 2013 15:13 GMT
#21
Lackluster finals with a lackluster performance by both players. Rain was so good with drop defense in the first two games that Maru basically gave up on trying them and played a rather straight up style of frontal attacks in the games that he attacked first in.

It'll be interesting if Rain redeems himself in the Season Finals like Innovation did last season finals.
If you don't like it, you can quit.
MChrome
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands201 Posts
August 10 2013 15:17 GMT
#22
Nice to finally see Maru on the top spot
If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
thegnome
Profile Joined December 2012
Brazil68 Posts
August 10 2013 15:29 GMT
#23
today I learned to never bet on the protoss to win a major korean tournament
Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 15:40:01
August 10 2013 15:39 GMT
#24
On August 11 2013 00:29 thegnome wrote:
today I learned to never bet on the protoss to win a major korean tournament


Never bet against the artosis curse
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SupaDupaFlyPro
Profile Joined May 2013
Italy47 Posts
August 10 2013 15:41 GMT
#25
On August 10 2013 23:11 TXRaunchy wrote:
I blame Rain's loss to the Artosis curse. He said 4-2 Rain...Nooo. Terran so OP


I agree :D However Maru well deserved the championship
skyflyfish
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada499 Posts
August 10 2013 15:47 GMT
#26
thank you for your blessing Artosis
as1
DinosaurPoop
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
687 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 15:51:58
August 10 2013 15:49 GMT
#27
What if Artosis knows who really wins, but he bets on the wrong player to fool with our minds :o
edit: I can't find vods on twitch D:
When cats speak, mice listen.
Sup3rior
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden442 Posts
August 10 2013 15:49 GMT
#28
spoiler??????????????
HELLO!!! lol! :D
etherealfall
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia476 Posts
August 10 2013 15:53 GMT
#29
Artosis should seriously stop cursing people
holmesgenius
Profile Joined February 2013
Vietnam65 Posts
August 10 2013 15:56 GMT
#30
He ain't youngest champ. Life is. Grazt. I love terran at all.
Terran imbalance ---- Zerg wins ---- Protoss advances
asongdotnet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1060 Posts
August 10 2013 15:58 GMT
#31
so does that mean maru changes his tag to optimus now?
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
August 10 2013 16:00 GMT
#32
So does this mean out of the three young ones to come to light at the same time... Creator is now the weakest for never winning a major Korean title and never walking a royal road?
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
Chilly Knife Party P
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2 Posts
August 10 2013 16:01 GMT
#33
Y'all should know how it works by now, bet AGAINST Artosis dammit! I like Rain, but he is my fifth choice for a champion after: Bomber, MarineKing, Jurgen, and Maru. Since Bomber couldn't advance and win I'm absolutely ecstatic that Maru won. Been rooting for Prime since the beginning so glad Maru didn't choke like 2ndPlacePrime... I mean MarineKing
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TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
August 10 2013 16:01 GMT
#34
On August 11 2013 00:56 holmesgenius wrote:
He ain't youngest champ. Life is. Grazt. I love terran at all.

Life is GSL not OSL. Maru is the youngest Royal Roader in OSL history.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
Carefree
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1571 Posts
August 10 2013 16:06 GMT
#35
On August 11 2013 00:07 Darkthorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 23:50 hsiyyap852 wrote:
ESF :D!
(Poor Protoss we really should win a big Korean tournament once in a while...)

ye poor protoss having a finalist in wcs kr and 6/8 in wcs eu and 3/8 in wcs NA...the race is so bad it's not even funny.


If you bothered to click the quote button at least you should make an effort in reading what the other guy said.
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DBS
Profile Joined July 2012
515 Posts
August 10 2013 16:08 GMT
#36
On August 10 2013 23:11 TXRaunchy wrote:
I blame Rain's loss to the Artosis curse. He said 4-2 Rain...Nooo. Terran so OP


Game one made protoss look like the most broken thing in the world, it actually looked impossible for Maru to win.
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Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10093 Posts
August 10 2013 16:08 GMT
#37
MARUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On August 02 2013 05:45 Topin wrote:
Maru got this ez

i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
August 10 2013 16:17 GMT
#38
Congrats to Maru and eSF!
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
August 10 2013 16:22 GMT
#39
On August 11 2013 01:08 DBS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 23:11 TXRaunchy wrote:
I blame Rain's loss to the Artosis curse. He said 4-2 Rain...Nooo. Terran so OP


Game one made protoss look like the most broken thing in the world, it actually looked impossible for Maru to win.

And the Star Station game made it look like the opposite, max fight with seemingly decent position for both sides but Maru came out with an overwhelming supply lead.
agsub
Profile Joined May 2012
Singapore368 Posts
August 10 2013 16:24 GMT
#40
when are the vods coming up on twitch?
Xivsa
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
August 10 2013 16:33 GMT
#41
Copy-edit errors in the final paragraph.

Grats to Maru on a nice OSL season. Hopefully he can continue this success in the upcoming GSL.
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mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 16:40:21
August 10 2013 16:38 GMT
#42
so shall he be named OPTIMUSPRIME now??! (champion, and best of Prime)
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
August 10 2013 16:54 GMT
#43
Does OSL gives something for being an Royal Roader like the Life got the sword?
KapsyL
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden704 Posts
August 10 2013 17:06 GMT
#44
cursed
Jurg Jurg Jurg
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
August 10 2013 17:08 GMT
#45
Dang Rain man... gratz to Maru but sheeeeeet...
Jepsyn
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada364 Posts
August 10 2013 17:11 GMT
#46
Artosis strikes again.. Dat curse
"Wonder what this game would be like if protoss units cost money" - IdrA
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 17:16:43
August 10 2013 17:15 GMT
#47
Nice writeup.
Dear TL translators, is it possible to get the TiG Interview of Maru (they for sure made one) translated? Would be really nice
astray71
Profile Joined February 2012
United States325 Posts
August 10 2013 17:27 GMT
#48
Yay! I guess 4-2 Maru :D Always rooting for eSF! Though, I can't really cheer against Jaedong
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SorrowShine
Profile Joined October 2011
698 Posts
August 10 2013 17:42 GMT
#49
well done man
Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
August 10 2013 17:50 GMT
#50
So happy for Maru, I was hoping he would win. I'm also very happy for Prime, a team full of amazing players who have definitely contributed to Maru's victory.

Dat Artosis curse, I called 4-2 Maru because he called 4-2 Rain lmao.
Try another route paperboy.
9-BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
August 10 2013 18:06 GMT
#51
On August 11 2013 01:08 DBS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 23:11 TXRaunchy wrote:
I blame Rain's loss to the Artosis curse. He said 4-2 Rain...Nooo. Terran so OP


Game one made protoss look like the most broken thing in the world, it actually looked impossible for Maru to win.

I didn't see the whole series, but damn, that first game was just absolutely dominating. I'm scared to play on ladder now, that was such a convincing win. I went to bed after game one content knowing Rain would win, just like when I went to bed after seeing innovation up 3-0, lmao I have such bad luck.
kwark_uk: @father_sc learn to play maybe?
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 10 2013 18:07 GMT
#52
On August 11 2013 03:06 9-BiT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 01:08 DBS wrote:
On August 10 2013 23:11 TXRaunchy wrote:
I blame Rain's loss to the Artosis curse. He said 4-2 Rain...Nooo. Terran so OP


Game one made protoss look like the most broken thing in the world, it actually looked impossible for Maru to win.

I didn't see the whole series, but damn, that first game was just absolutely dominating. I'm scared to play on ladder now, that was such a convincing win. I went to bed after game one content knowing Rain would win, just like when I went to bed after seeing innovation up 3-0, lmao I have such bad luck.


People really never do learn to wait with sleeping until the finals has been decided.
AdministratorBreak the chains
9-BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
August 10 2013 18:08 GMT
#53
On August 11 2013 03:07 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 03:06 9-BiT wrote:
On August 11 2013 01:08 DBS wrote:
On August 10 2013 23:11 TXRaunchy wrote:
I blame Rain's loss to the Artosis curse. He said 4-2 Rain...Nooo. Terran so OP


Game one made protoss look like the most broken thing in the world, it actually looked impossible for Maru to win.

I didn't see the whole series, but damn, that first game was just absolutely dominating. I'm scared to play on ladder now, that was such a convincing win. I went to bed after game one content knowing Rain would win, just like when I went to bed after seeing innovation up 3-0, lmao I have such bad luck.


People really never do learn to wait with sleeping until the finals has been decided.

Haha, but the finals was decided, artosis told me so D:
kwark_uk: @father_sc learn to play maybe?
Reborn58
Profile Joined August 2010
United States238 Posts
August 10 2013 18:16 GMT
#54
What is with TL spoiling results the last few days? WTF
That's what she said
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
August 10 2013 18:16 GMT
#55
On August 11 2013 01:08 DBS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 23:11 TXRaunchy wrote:
I blame Rain's loss to the Artosis curse. He said 4-2 Rain...Nooo. Terran so OP


Game one made protoss look like the most broken thing in the world, it actually looked impossible for Maru to win.


Unsurprising considering he was trying to play passively (not even greedily) against arguably the best passive Protoss player.

Gotta say, although it was unexpected, I'm happy for Maru. All I hope is that he won't just fade back into obscurity in a month's time. He's had some good streaks before (obviously they're nothing compared to this but still) but he's also had some rough patches. We'll see...
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16100 Posts
August 10 2013 18:20 GMT
#56
On August 11 2013 03:16 Reborn58 wrote:
What is with TL spoiling results the last few days? WTF


Where have you been the last year? They haven't had an anti-spoiler policy on TL for a while now.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3301 Posts
August 10 2013 18:35 GMT
#57
Korean VoDs
http://www.twitch.tv/ogn_kor/b/443515065
T P Z sagi
ZombieDeSaguayo
Profile Joined March 2013
Spain14 Posts
August 10 2013 18:40 GMT
#58
Congrats Maru!

So happy for Prime.
Drone a la BBQ
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11075 Posts
August 10 2013 18:42 GMT
#59
Just so unhappy. Today is terrible. argh.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
[]Phase[]
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium927 Posts
August 10 2013 18:44 GMT
#60
'Twas as feared. I really wanted Rain to win, but somehow after the upset against Innovation you can't be completely surprised anymore.
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
August 10 2013 18:45 GMT
#61
Also you forgot that Creator won WCS Korea last year as a major korean tournament. (and yes, it was major, all korean top players were in it and the pricepool was not that low either.)
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
August 10 2013 18:46 GMT
#62
On August 11 2013 03:16 Reborn58 wrote:
What is with TL spoiling results the last few days? WTF

Don't go on TL if you don't wanna get spoiled, its really not that hard.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
August 10 2013 19:03 GMT
#63
Rain made stupid uncharacteristic mistakes in the second half of the series. Very disappointing finals. Just hope that Maru doesn't end up being the next Jjakji/Seed/Sniper and ends up going nowhere after this.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
xContagion
Profile Joined July 2012
United States40 Posts
August 10 2013 19:10 GMT
#64
what a coincidence. prime like many teams who need money in the past, the players on them teams just out of nowhere always start beating the best in the world. not a surprise. while some tourneys arent scripted, some are for the longevity and greatness of the game like NFL

User was temp banned for this post.
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
August 10 2013 19:15 GMT
#65
Maru = Mind
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
August 10 2013 19:15 GMT
#66
Very happy to see such a dedication being paid off. The kid was playing SC2 since he was 13.. (doing math by the fact that he's 16 now) Can you imagine how much potential he has. MKP has been picking up steam again lately and hopefully DRG could regain his might sooner or later. Granted I have become respectful of Rain and his non-cheesy play (compared to just about every other Chee-toss'es), but he already has won the title once and he can afford to take the 2nd place.
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
August 10 2013 19:16 GMT
#67
Also I can't speak enough how satisfied I am to see Artosis Curse being realized yet again. ^^
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
August 10 2013 19:22 GMT
#68
On August 11 2013 04:16 usethis2 wrote:
Also I can't speak enough how satisfied I am to see Artosis Curse being realized yet again. ^^


Artosis needs to stop predicting games. I don't believe in curses or anything tomfoolery like that, but his predictions are spoiling results.
JesseBunny
Profile Joined March 2012
Finland18 Posts
August 10 2013 19:24 GMT
#69
Imo he shouldn't be called royal roader, as current OSL is kinda combined with GSL, where Maru has played for many seasons.

But it doesn't make his achievement any lesser, and i do love seeing some new players at the very top!
^^
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 19:33:37
August 10 2013 19:32 GMT
#70
Great recap! Thanks (game 4 recap needs some editing)

e:
On August 11 2013 04:10 xContagion wrote:
what a coincidence. prime like many teams who need money in the past, the players on them teams just out of nowhere always start beating the best in the world. not a surprise. while some tourneys arent scripted, some are for the longevity and greatness of the game like NFL


first, really???
second, you mean NBA.
vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
August 10 2013 19:41 GMT
#71
All hail Darth Maru - Sith Master.

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"Starcraft 2 very easy game" - White-Ra
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
August 10 2013 19:43 GMT
#72
OptimusPrime
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16100 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 19:51:52
August 10 2013 19:50 GMT
#73
On August 11 2013 04:24 JesseBunny wrote:
Imo he shouldn't be called royal roader, as current OSL is kinda combined with GSL, where Maru has played for many seasons.

But it doesn't make his achievement any lesser, and i do love seeing some new players at the very top!


GOM and OGN have been pretty insistent that these tournaments are separate even if they are partnered with the WCS.

The Nestea Award (10 consecutive Code S seasons in GSL) wasn't counted in this season for that same reason.

At the end of the day, they are the ones giving out the titles and awards. It's their decision to make. In this case Maru: despite being older than Life and a veteran of the GSL; is now the youngest OSL Royal Roader ever.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
DinosaurJones
Profile Joined February 2012
United States1000 Posts
August 10 2013 19:55 GMT
#74
On August 11 2013 04:10 xContagion wrote:
what a coincidence. prime like many teams who need money in the past, the players on them teams just out of nowhere always start beating the best in the world. not a surprise. while some tourneys arent scripted, some are for the longevity and greatness of the game like NFL

User was temp banned for this post.


Hahaha, seriously? That's a little paranoid.
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
August 10 2013 20:04 GMT
#75
Lol artosis actually predicted rain? Why am I not surprised ...

Kinda lackluster finals though. The most entertaining game for me was game 3 actually. I was convinced if rain won that game he would have won the series
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Darkthorn
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania912 Posts
August 10 2013 20:07 GMT
#76
On August 11 2013 05:04 GenesisX wrote:
Lol artosis actually predicted rain? Why am I not surprised ...

Kinda lackluster finals though. The most entertaining game for me was game 3 actually. I was convinced if rain won that game he would have won the series

Artosis should stop predicting or he will be ruining esports...
TronJovolta
Profile Joined April 2013
United States323 Posts
August 10 2013 20:33 GMT
#77
On August 10 2013 23:10 BronzeKnee wrote:
Thanks for the write up.

Congratulations Maru!

Maybe now the Power Rank will respect his achievements. He just defeated the #1 and #2 consecutively and won the most difficult individual tournament in the world.

There is no doubt who is the best SC2 player in the world right now.


lmfao. countless iterations of the phrase "the best SC2 player in the world right now" are thrown around so carelessly these days, it absolutely chuffs me up.

Maru is amaaaaaazing. Deserves the championship. But you, and nobody in the whole world, could possibly know who the best SC2 player in the world is. It kills me to hear Tasteless and Artosis literally crown a new "best player in the world" every few months, sometimes even WEEKS. The funniest part, is the best player in the world is probably some unknown kid in his basement.
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
August 10 2013 20:33 GMT
#78
I figured out how the artosis curse works. It provides a passive +7 stat boost to all the stats they show at the begining of the game to the player he predicts against.
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
9-BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
August 10 2013 20:37 GMT
#79
On August 11 2013 04:10 xContagion wrote:
what a coincidence. prime like many teams who need money in the past, the players on them teams just out of nowhere always start beating the best in the world. not a surprise. while some tourneys arent scripted, some are for the longevity and greatness of the game like NFL

User was temp banned for this post.

Lmao, if they don't have any money how are they match fixing?
kwark_uk: @father_sc learn to play maybe?
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
August 10 2013 20:43 GMT
#80
My Hail Mary bet on Maru paid off! I'm smarter than all of you!
That's so amazing for him though, congrats to both him and Rain on an awesome season
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
August 10 2013 20:54 GMT
#81
Is that DT build from the final game possible? It feels like every time I see it the Terran just doesnt care, moves out, and wins because the protoss just doesnt have enough stuff.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
August 10 2013 20:55 GMT
#82
On August 10 2013 23:13 AgentW wrote:
I'm starting to think Artosis is a wizard who got in deep with the sharks and decided this was the best way to pay off his debts.

All kidding aside, congratulations to Maru and thanks for the write up.


i rly think artosis should start bet money on the guys he predict to lose ^^
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
August 10 2013 21:22 GMT
#83
On August 11 2013 05:54 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Is that DT build from the final game possible? It feels like every time I see it the Terran just doesnt care, moves out, and wins because the protoss just doesnt have enough stuff.


Of course it's possible, Rain just didn't execute it good (letting both DTs die to a scan). He still could have harassed the fuck out of Maru's main and even if he wasn't picking off tons of workers, at least keeping Maru from mining off that one base and also trying to pick off tech structures/depots/etc.

It would have bought him time, which is what Rain needed. Unfortunately he only killed 3-4 SCVs and didn't do much at all.
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
August 10 2013 21:31 GMT
#84
On August 11 2013 06:22 SniXSniPe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 05:54 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Is that DT build from the final game possible? It feels like every time I see it the Terran just doesnt care, moves out, and wins because the protoss just doesnt have enough stuff.


Of course it's possible, Rain just didn't execute it good (letting both DTs die to a scan). He still could have harassed the fuck out of Maru's main and even if he wasn't picking off tons of workers, at least keeping Maru from mining off that one base and also trying to pick off tech structures/depots/etc.

It would have bought him time, which is what Rain needed. Unfortunately he only killed 3-4 SCVs and didn't do much at all.

Maru was already moving out when the DT's came, wasnt he? And he didnt bother to turn around and wouldnt have needed to anyway. We saw something similar in Ruin vs Keen on Anaconda. Keen just attacked and won while he lifted buildings.
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 21:45:04
August 10 2013 21:44 GMT
#85
oy i remember why i don't visit this site until after i've watched all the games now. silly me ugh
Eyzo
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada12 Posts
August 10 2013 22:19 GMT
#86
I remember sometime around tsl4, I was looking at maru like "this kid is amazing, how has he not broken out yet" and even though it took a while, now is his time to shine. I just hope his teammate creator can live up to potential too and not just be a one hit wonder.
If you can't beat them, I will
thegnome
Profile Joined December 2012
Brazil68 Posts
August 11 2013 01:05 GMT
#87
On August 11 2013 04:24 JesseBunny wrote:
Imo he shouldn't be called royal roader, as current OSL is kinda combined with GSL, where Maru has played for many seasons.

But it doesn't make his achievement any lesser, and i do love seeing some new players at the very top!



thank you so much, I thought I was the only one who realized this
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
August 11 2013 01:09 GMT
#88
On August 11 2013 04:24 JesseBunny wrote:
Imo he shouldn't be called royal roader, as current OSL is kinda combined with GSL, where Maru has played for many seasons.

But it doesn't make his achievement any lesser, and i do love seeing some new players at the very top!

They are not kinda combined tough. They are still their own tournament with just the WCS tag pressed on. They both still got their own format and rules.
thegnome
Profile Joined December 2012
Brazil68 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 01:35:00
August 11 2013 01:34 GMT
#89
On August 11 2013 10:09 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 04:24 JesseBunny wrote:
Imo he shouldn't be called royal roader, as current OSL is kinda combined with GSL, where Maru has played for many seasons.

But it doesn't make his achievement any lesser, and i do love seeing some new players at the very top!

They are not kinda combined tough. They are still their own tournament with just the WCS tag pressed on. They both still got their own format and rules.


format is overall the same (minor changes) and players qualified for one of the tournaments are the players qualified for code A, Up&Down, code S from the other tournament.
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
August 11 2013 01:45 GMT
#90
damn straight #prime
rip prime
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
August 11 2013 01:52 GMT
#91
Is it just me or should this thread title be spoilered?
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
August 11 2013 01:55 GMT
#92
On August 11 2013 10:52 Doodsmack wrote:
Is it just me or should this thread title be spoilered?



no it's not you, the title of this thread is clearly inappropriate. I had it spoiled for myself... before i saw the title of this thread the series was 2-2 tied up, at least as far as i knew.
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
August 11 2013 02:00 GMT
#93
rain threw game 5 away. He didn't need to attack there. Maru wasn't playing greedy at all IMO. IMO, he did the correct build for the map. Rain saw it and thought he was going to break maru and win the game, but it was bad judgement IMO because I see no reason why terran shouldn't be able to hold off an immortal sentry all in on the map after taking a 3rd CC. Star gate is the only thing that will give that build trouble on that map IMO.
althaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1001 Posts
August 11 2013 02:15 GMT
#94
On August 11 2013 10:55 dutchfriese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 10:52 Doodsmack wrote:
Is it just me or should this thread title be spoilered?



no it's not you, the title of this thread is clearly inappropriate. I had it spoiled for myself... before i saw the title of this thread the series was 2-2 tied up, at least as far as i knew.

If you haven't watched the OSL finals, you really shouldn't be visiting Team Liquid. That's like looking at the back page of the paper the day after the world cup (or after the superbowl if you're in the US).
The first rule we don't talk about race conditions. of race conditions is
rice_devOurer
Profile Joined July 2012
United States773 Posts
August 11 2013 02:22 GMT
#95
On August 11 2013 11:15 althaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 10:55 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 11 2013 10:52 Doodsmack wrote:
Is it just me or should this thread title be spoilered?



no it's not you, the title of this thread is clearly inappropriate. I had it spoiled for myself... before i saw the title of this thread the series was 2-2 tied up, at least as far as i knew.

If you haven't watched the OSL finals, you really shouldn't be visiting Team Liquid. That's like looking at the back page of the paper the day after the world cup (or after the superbowl if you're in the US).

this is why i stayed up to 4am: the whole finals
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usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
August 11 2013 02:25 GMT
#96
Isn't it scary to think how intense Artosis' curse is becoming? He even managed to work out the score this time.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
August 11 2013 02:25 GMT
#97
On August 11 2013 10:55 dutchfriese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 10:52 Doodsmack wrote:
Is it just me or should this thread title be spoilered?



no it's not you, the title of this thread is clearly inappropriate. I had it spoiled for myself... before i saw the title of this thread the series was 2-2 tied up, at least as far as i knew.

There is a way to prevent that, don't go on Teamliquid when you still need to watch a big match, its really not that hard.
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
August 11 2013 02:27 GMT
#98
On August 11 2013 05:54 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Is that DT build from the final game possible? It feels like every time I see it the Terran just doesnt care, moves out, and wins because the protoss just doesnt have enough stuff.


Don't you miss Inca's DTs..
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 03:28:03
August 11 2013 03:26 GMT
#99
On August 11 2013 11:25 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 10:55 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 11 2013 10:52 Doodsmack wrote:
Is it just me or should this thread title be spoilered?



no it's not you, the title of this thread is clearly inappropriate. I had it spoiled for myself... before i saw the title of this thread the series was 2-2 tied up, at least as far as i knew.

There is a way to prevent that, don't go on Teamliquid when you still need to watch a big match, its really not that hard.


But there's still no reason not to have the thread title in spoilers.


On August 11 2013 11:15 althaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 10:55 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 11 2013 10:52 Doodsmack wrote:
Is it just me or should this thread title be spoilered?



no it's not you, the title of this thread is clearly inappropriate. I had it spoiled for myself... before i saw the title of this thread the series was 2-2 tied up, at least as far as i knew.

If you haven't watched the OSL finals, you really shouldn't be visiting Team Liquid. That's like looking at the back page of the paper the day after the world cup (or after the superbowl if you're in the US).



Except the internet is a little more customizable than newspapers. As I type this post I see two spoiler brackets on the left side of my screen.
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
August 11 2013 03:37 GMT
#100
boom.
rip prime
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 04:11:54
August 11 2013 04:00 GMT
#101
On August 11 2013 11:15 althaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 10:55 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 11 2013 10:52 Doodsmack wrote:
Is it just me or should this thread title be spoilered?



no it's not you, the title of this thread is clearly inappropriate. I had it spoiled for myself... before i saw the title of this thread the series was 2-2 tied up, at least as far as i knew.

If you haven't watched the OSL finals, you really shouldn't be visiting Team Liquid. That's like looking at the back page of the paper the day after the world cup (or after the superbowl if you're in the US).



you are correct and i alluded to this this in a previous post on this very page.


But i'm not sure why the title of this thread needed to have the results in it
Reborn58
Profile Joined August 2010
United States238 Posts
August 11 2013 05:21 GMT
#102
How hard is it to make the fucking title "Rain vs Maru Finals Recap" and then have the fucking story inside? You intentionally spoil people?
That's what she said
is5-baseic
Profile Joined July 2012
United States9 Posts
August 11 2013 05:26 GMT
#103
This season really gave me a better appreciation for the TvP matchup in SC2. Back when I was learning Wings of Liberty Zerg and laddering my little gold league heart out to try to get into platinum (the reverse happened; i'm stuck in silver now), I followed the GSL but skipped every single PvT unless the players were Boxer, Nada, or MC (even then I might only watch one game in the series).

Now I want to offrace and can't decide between Terran or Protoss! Even though I feel more comfortable with Protoss (and most comfortable with zerg), I think I'll play Terran in honor of Bomber's deep run and of course Maru's Royal March through the brackets.

I've been rooting for Maru so hard to win OSL ever since he took Innovation. It's clear that Maru has more than Mechanics and Macro up his sleeve and can show more interesting builds like the Raven play that helped him break Rain's hard contain on Star Station.
I like Nike but wait a minute/The neighborhood supports so put some money in it
Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
August 11 2013 05:36 GMT
#104
On August 11 2013 14:21 Reborn58 wrote:
How hard is it to make the fucking title "Rain vs Maru Finals Recap" and then have the fucking story inside? You intentionally spoil people?


This website posts esports news as it happens, if you don't want the results to be spoiled then simply don't visit the website until you watch the VODs or the restream. Complaining about this is like going over to ESPN the morning after the superbowl finished and not expecting to see the results on the front page.
"Touch my gosu hands." - Tastosis | | fOrGG // MC // Jaedong
c0sm0naut
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1229 Posts
August 11 2013 05:39 GMT
#105
you can call me surprised XD
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
August 11 2013 05:42 GMT
#106
I'm impressed with Maru's ability to not give in to pressure, he doesn't seem to be one to ever choke lately.

Also laughing at soO for calling out Prime that one time. Maru had to take it too his teammate since soO can't back up his own talk by getting into the finals himself. =P
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painkilla
Profile Joined June 2013
United States695 Posts
August 11 2013 06:22 GMT
#107
On August 11 2013 14:42 Hall0wed wrote:
I'm impressed with Maru's ability to not give in to pressure, he doesn't seem to be one to ever choke lately.

Also laughing at soO for calling out Prime that one time. Maru had to take it too his teammate since soO can't back up his own talk by getting into the finals himself. =P


What did soO say ? It takes a lot of balls to call out Prime when he is such a mediocre player himself.
Supernova | TY | Polt | Innovation | forGG | Lucifron | Happy
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
August 11 2013 06:48 GMT
#108
great spic series, the korean finals are back to what they were before the zerg onslaught for the later part of wool
MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
August 11 2013 07:00 GMT
#109
On August 11 2013 00:07 Darkthorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 23:50 hsiyyap852 wrote:
ESF :D!
(Poor Protoss we really should win a big Korean tournament once in a while...)

ye poor protoss having a finalist in wcs kr and 6/8 in wcs eu and 3/8 in wcs NA...the race is so bad it's not even funny.


(quick disclaimer: this comment isn't referring to balance in anyway.)

To be fair how many protoss have won korean tournaments.

MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
August 11 2013 07:21 GMT
#110
On August 11 2013 16:00 igay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 00:07 Darkthorn wrote:
On August 10 2013 23:50 hsiyyap852 wrote:
ESF :D!
(Poor Protoss we really should win a big Korean tournament once in a while...)

ye poor protoss having a finalist in wcs kr and 6/8 in wcs eu and 3/8 in wcs NA...the race is so bad it's not even funny.


(quick disclaimer: this comment isn't referring to balance in anyway.)

To be fair how many protoss have won korean tournaments.



MC, Seed, Yonghwa, Creator, Rain
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
August 11 2013 07:33 GMT
#111
Maru is a royal roader.
OSL and GSL are still separate despite the WCS tag. It's hard to wrap your heads around it but it is what it is (think Nestea award complaints).
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
August 11 2013 07:34 GMT
#112
On August 11 2013 15:22 painkilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 14:42 Hall0wed wrote:
I'm impressed with Maru's ability to not give in to pressure, he doesn't seem to be one to ever choke lately.

Also laughing at soO for calling out Prime that one time. Maru had to take it too his teammate since soO can't back up his own talk by getting into the finals himself. =P


What did soO say ? It takes a lot of balls to call out Prime when he is such a mediocre player himself.


He said Prime is an easy team.
Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
August 11 2013 07:41 GMT
#113
On August 11 2013 16:21 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 16:00 igay wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:07 Darkthorn wrote:
On August 10 2013 23:50 hsiyyap852 wrote:
ESF :D!
(Poor Protoss we really should win a big Korean tournament once in a while...)

ye poor protoss having a finalist in wcs kr and 6/8 in wcs eu and 3/8 in wcs NA...the race is so bad it's not even funny.


(quick disclaimer: this comment isn't referring to balance in anyway.)

To be fair how many protoss have won korean tournaments.



MC, Seed, Yonghwa, Creator, Rain


I know you probably mean premier tournaments, but if you include ESV Weekly, you can also include JYP, Puzzle, InCa, GuineaPig, TAiLS, Tassadar, San, Tear, Sage. Puzzle also won Code A.
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painkilla
Profile Joined June 2013
United States695 Posts
August 11 2013 08:06 GMT
#114
On August 11 2013 16:00 igay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 00:07 Darkthorn wrote:
On August 10 2013 23:50 hsiyyap852 wrote:
ESF :D!
(Poor Protoss we really should win a big Korean tournament once in a while...)

ye poor protoss having a finalist in wcs kr and 6/8 in wcs eu and 3/8 in wcs NA...the race is so bad it's not even funny.


(quick disclaimer: this comment isn't referring to balance in anyway.)

To be fair how many protoss have won korean tournaments.



For some reason Protoss have tendency to choke in the finals. Squirtle vs Mvp and now Rain vs Maru. At times when PvT seem to be P favored too. sOs also played nervously against Innovation even though it was a 4-0.
Supernova | TY | Polt | Innovation | forGG | Lucifron | Happy
Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
August 11 2013 08:37 GMT
#115
On August 11 2013 17:06 painkilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 16:00 igay wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:07 Darkthorn wrote:
On August 10 2013 23:50 hsiyyap852 wrote:
ESF :D!
(Poor Protoss we really should win a big Korean tournament once in a while...)

ye poor protoss having a finalist in wcs kr and 6/8 in wcs eu and 3/8 in wcs NA...the race is so bad it's not even funny.


(quick disclaimer: this comment isn't referring to balance in anyway.)

To be fair how many protoss have won korean tournaments.



For some reason Protoss have tendency to choke in the finals. Squirtle vs Mvp and now Rain vs Maru. At times when PvT seem to be P favored too. sOs also played nervously against Innovation even though it was a 4-0.


No kidding! When MC choked in GSL Season 3 2012, I totally gave up hope of Protoss ever winning GSL again.
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Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
August 11 2013 08:47 GMT
#116
On August 11 2013 14:21 Reborn58 wrote:
How hard is it to make the fucking title "Rain vs Maru Finals Recap" and then have the fucking story inside? You intentionally spoil people?

About as hard as clicking the "hide spoilers" checkbox on the front page?
HOLY CHECK!
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
August 11 2013 10:00 GMT
#117
On August 11 2013 16:21 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 16:00 igay wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:07 Darkthorn wrote:
On August 10 2013 23:50 hsiyyap852 wrote:
ESF :D!
(Poor Protoss we really should win a big Korean tournament once in a while...)

ye poor protoss having a finalist in wcs kr and 6/8 in wcs eu and 3/8 in wcs NA...the race is so bad it's not even funny.


(quick disclaimer: this comment isn't referring to balance in anyway.)

To be fair how many protoss have won korean tournaments.



MC, Seed, Yonghwa, Creator, Rain


ok, in in comparison to zerg and terran
MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
ooDi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada170 Posts
August 11 2013 10:05 GMT
#118
awesome write up!
"Believe you can and you're halfway there." @UR_ooDi www.twitch.tv/ooDi_sc
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12023 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 10:11:59
August 11 2013 10:10 GMT
#119
I'm so sad for Rain, but he basically crumbled that game and it was heartbreaking

In my eyes this finals (much like the Flash/Jaedong MSL Finals with the powercut) will always be decided by the loser, rather than the winner playing better. I can't help it and maybe it's the fanboy in me but Rain just completely threw that away.

Congrats to Maru either way, he played well <3
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
August 11 2013 10:21 GMT
#120
On August 11 2013 19:00 igay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 16:21 vthree wrote:
On August 11 2013 16:00 igay wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:07 Darkthorn wrote:
On August 10 2013 23:50 hsiyyap852 wrote:
ESF :D!
(Poor Protoss we really should win a big Korean tournament once in a while...)

ye poor protoss having a finalist in wcs kr and 6/8 in wcs eu and 3/8 in wcs NA...the race is so bad it's not even funny.


(quick disclaimer: this comment isn't referring to balance in anyway.)

To be fair how many protoss have won korean tournaments.



MC, Seed, Yonghwa, Creator, Rain


ok, in in comparison to zerg and terran


Zerg : Nestea, DRG, Life, Sniper, Roro, Soulkey

Terran : Mvp, Polt, MMA, Jjakji, Maru
farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 10:27:46
August 11 2013 10:26 GMT
#121
Maru was in GSL open season 1. does anyone remember him there ? i think he was matched against Cella.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
August 11 2013 10:27 GMT
#122
Yeah he beat Cella when he was 13 and Cella was still relevant as a player, that's pretty impressive.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
August 11 2013 10:28 GMT
#123
On August 11 2013 19:21 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 19:00 igay wrote:
On August 11 2013 16:21 vthree wrote:
On August 11 2013 16:00 igay wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:07 Darkthorn wrote:
On August 10 2013 23:50 hsiyyap852 wrote:
ESF :D!
(Poor Protoss we really should win a big Korean tournament once in a while...)

ye poor protoss having a finalist in wcs kr and 6/8 in wcs eu and 3/8 in wcs NA...the race is so bad it's not even funny.


(quick disclaimer: this comment isn't referring to balance in anyway.)

To be fair how many protoss have won korean tournaments.



MC, Seed, Yonghwa, Creator, Rain


ok, in in comparison to zerg and terran


Zerg : Nestea, DRG, Life, Sniper, Roro, Soulkey

Terran : Mvp, Polt, MMA, Jjakji, Maru


funny, isn't it? Because of the 4 MVP championships, people oftentimes think of those tons of Terran champions. btw. you forgot Fruitdealer for Zerg. I know I know, he fell off drasticly after his championship, but you also mentioned Jjakji so it should be fine! At least he was still around Code S for ~1year.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
August 11 2013 10:35 GMT
#124
On August 11 2013 19:28 TeeTS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 19:21 vthree wrote:
On August 11 2013 19:00 igay wrote:
On August 11 2013 16:21 vthree wrote:
On August 11 2013 16:00 igay wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:07 Darkthorn wrote:
On August 10 2013 23:50 hsiyyap852 wrote:
ESF :D!
(Poor Protoss we really should win a big Korean tournament once in a while...)

ye poor protoss having a finalist in wcs kr and 6/8 in wcs eu and 3/8 in wcs NA...the race is so bad it's not even funny.


(quick disclaimer: this comment isn't referring to balance in anyway.)

To be fair how many protoss have won korean tournaments.



MC, Seed, Yonghwa, Creator, Rain


ok, in in comparison to zerg and terran


Zerg : Nestea, DRG, Life, Sniper, Roro, Soulkey

Terran : Mvp, Polt, MMA, Jjakji, Maru


funny, isn't it? Because of the 4 MVP championships, people oftentimes think of those tons of Terran champions. btw. you forgot Fruitdealer for Zerg. I know I know, he fell off drasticly after his championship, but you also mentioned Jjakji so it should be fine! At least he was still around Code S for ~1year.


Not to mention Protoss forget about the WCS Korea going to Creator, Asia to Rain and World to PartinG
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
August 11 2013 10:41 GMT
#125
That does not count a royal road, right? Just because you call it OSL it still is nearly the same old format.
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
August 11 2013 10:44 GMT
#126
On August 11 2013 19:41 Aunvilgod wrote:
That does not count a royal road, right? Just because you call it OSL it still is nearly the same old format.


It's OSL... not GSL... and it's not "you call it OSL". Blizzard and the Korean organizations themselves have decided to keep the brands of GSL and OSL separate.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
August 11 2013 10:52 GMT
#127
On August 11 2013 19:26 farnham wrote:
Maru was in GSL open season 1. does anyone remember him there ? i think he was matched against Cella.

Yup, won 2-1 vs Cella back when he Cella was insanely popular due to his stream.
Darrkhan
Profile Joined February 2012
Finland1236 Posts
August 11 2013 11:45 GMT
#128
Yeah Maru won just because protoss is so bad race.

+ Show Spoiler +
no, fuck you haters
TruEcz
Profile Joined July 2013
Czech Republic25 Posts
August 11 2013 12:00 GMT
#129
Are there any English VODs, guys? I've missed the finals, becouse my friend was getting married T_T.
MMA, Maru, jjakji, TeaJa, Polt <3
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 11 2013 12:27 GMT
#130
Maru? MARU!
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 12:46:36
August 11 2013 12:46 GMT
#131
On August 11 2013 21:00 TruEcz wrote:
Are there any English VODs, guys? I've missed the finals, becouse my friend was getting married T_T.


ogn ones should appear on twitch after a while, the rebroadcast is already over.
Khai
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia553 Posts
August 11 2013 12:59 GMT
#132
Sad day for an SKT1 fan. But Maru showed he's better than most people thought and deserved a title, I wish Rain didn't crumble but oh well Rain is there to stay at the top, he's proven he's a top solid player.
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
August 11 2013 13:02 GMT
#133
Just watched the VODs. Really glad that Maru managed to win it, despite everyone thinking he would lose. His level of preparation, shown against Rain, Innovation and Symbol, are close to reaching Mvp's levels, I'd say. So happy for Maru, and I hope he continues to do well in the future.
Flash | Mvp
zusch
Profile Joined March 2011
United States73 Posts
August 11 2013 13:58 GMT
#134
On August 11 2013 22:02 Ctesias wrote:
Just watched the VODs. Really glad that Maru managed to win it, despite everyone thinking he would lose. His level of preparation, shown against Rain, Innovation and Symbol, are close to reaching Mvp's levels, I'd say. So happy for Maru, and I hope he continues to do well in the future.

Can you link? I'm not seeing anything on OSL Twitch.
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
August 11 2013 15:42 GMT
#135
On August 11 2013 17:47 Lonyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 14:21 Reborn58 wrote:
How hard is it to make the fucking title "Rain vs Maru Finals Recap" and then have the fucking story inside? You intentionally spoil people?

About as hard as clicking the "hide spoilers" checkbox on the front page?


Not only that, there was an entire news article a *long* time ago (i.e. this has been happening forever) about how TL wanted to be more of a news site and not just a recap nice and spoilered kind of thing, and if you didn't want to feel spoilered, there is a hide spoilers button on the front page...
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dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
August 11 2013 15:46 GMT
#136
On August 11 2013 14:36 Stress wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 14:21 Reborn58 wrote:
How hard is it to make the fucking title "Rain vs Maru Finals Recap" and then have the fucking story inside? You intentionally spoil people?


This website posts esports news as it happens, if you don't want the results to be spoiled then simply don't visit the website until you watch the VODs or the restream. Complaining about this is like going over to ESPN the morning after the superbowl finished and not expecting to see the results on the front page.



yes you have a legitimate point here, but i suppose i'm asking for a compromise. The reason I visited the site was because i wanted to watch the other WCS's (i only buy the korean ticket) and in between one of the matches I happened to stumble upon the title of this thread which spoiled the results of the finals. I realize this is a news site and I usually don't come here until after all the VODs because of that; however I'm not sure why the results of the match had to be the in thread title. Like the other poster suggested already,. maru vs rain recap should have sufficed IMO
Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
August 11 2013 15:57 GMT
#137
On August 12 2013 00:46 dutchfriese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 14:36 Stress wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:21 Reborn58 wrote:
How hard is it to make the fucking title "Rain vs Maru Finals Recap" and then have the fucking story inside? You intentionally spoil people?


This website posts esports news as it happens, if you don't want the results to be spoiled then simply don't visit the website until you watch the VODs or the restream. Complaining about this is like going over to ESPN the morning after the superbowl finished and not expecting to see the results on the front page.



yes you have a legitimate point here, but i suppose i'm asking for a compromise. The reason I visited the site was because i wanted to watch the other WCS's (i only buy the korean ticket) and in between one of the matches I happened to stumble upon the title of this thread which spoiled the results of the finals. I realize this is a news site and I usually don't come here until after all the VODs because of that; however I'm not sure why the results of the match had to be the in thread title. Like the other poster suggested already,. maru vs rain recap should have sufficed IMO


You can always use twitch or the WCS b.net site to view the WCS streams without going to TL. While I do agree the name of the thread could have been different, common sense dictates to not come here until you have caught up on the VODs if you don't want to see the results(especially when a major tournament is involved).
"Touch my gosu hands." - Tastosis | | fOrGG // MC // Jaedong
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
August 11 2013 17:53 GMT
#138
On August 12 2013 00:57 Stress wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:46 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:36 Stress wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:21 Reborn58 wrote:
How hard is it to make the fucking title "Rain vs Maru Finals Recap" and then have the fucking story inside? You intentionally spoil people?


This website posts esports news as it happens, if you don't want the results to be spoiled then simply don't visit the website until you watch the VODs or the restream. Complaining about this is like going over to ESPN the morning after the superbowl finished and not expecting to see the results on the front page.



yes you have a legitimate point here, but i suppose i'm asking for a compromise. The reason I visited the site was because i wanted to watch the other WCS's (i only buy the korean ticket) and in between one of the matches I happened to stumble upon the title of this thread which spoiled the results of the finals. I realize this is a news site and I usually don't come here until after all the VODs because of that; however I'm not sure why the results of the match had to be the in thread title. Like the other poster suggested already,. maru vs rain recap should have sufficed IMO


You can always use twitch or the WCS b.net site to view the WCS streams without going to TL. While I do agree the name of the thread could have been different, common sense dictates to not come here until you have caught up on the VODs if you don't want to see the results(especially when a major tournament is involved).



yes i realize this, but i always come to this site for sc2 streams (hardly a bad thing for team liquid) so that thought did not occur to me at the time.
zachMEISTER
Profile Joined December 2010
United States625 Posts
August 11 2013 18:13 GMT
#139
GOMTV has the finals posted. I bought a season ticket and was able to watch, as opposed to Finals Season 2...which was separate for some reason.
psillypsybic!
Coil1
Profile Joined January 2013
128 Posts
August 11 2013 21:26 GMT
#140
On August 11 2013 22:58 zusch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 22:02 Ctesias wrote:
Just watched the VODs. Really glad that Maru managed to win it, despite everyone thinking he would lose. His level of preparation, shown against Rain, Innovation and Symbol, are close to reaching Mvp's levels, I'd say. So happy for Maru, and I hope he continues to do well in the future.

Can you link? I'm not seeing anything on OSL Twitch.

http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs2/vod/80761/?set=1
There you go.
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
August 11 2013 22:05 GMT
#141
I am 17 now and this kid makes me feel so bad about my skills. I thought 1000pts Masters was good enough...
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
August 12 2013 03:01 GMT
#142
Still waiting for those damn vods >:|
Coil1
Profile Joined January 2013
128 Posts
August 12 2013 03:03 GMT
#143
On August 12 2013 12:01 Disengaged wrote:
Still waiting for those damn vods >:|

http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs2/vod/80761/?set=1
I posted it earlier, but here you go.
zusch
Profile Joined March 2011
United States73 Posts
August 12 2013 03:17 GMT
#144
On August 12 2013 06:26 Coil1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 22:58 zusch wrote:
On August 11 2013 22:02 Ctesias wrote:
Just watched the VODs. Really glad that Maru managed to win it, despite everyone thinking he would lose. His level of preparation, shown against Rain, Innovation and Symbol, are close to reaching Mvp's levels, I'd say. So happy for Maru, and I hope he continues to do well in the future.

Can you link? I'm not seeing anything on OSL Twitch.

http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs2/vod/80761/?set=1
There you go.

Oh see I don't pay for the GomTV ticket. They have been posting all the previous WCS matches to http://www.twitch.tv/wcs_osl/profile usually within 24 hours, but not these.

Thanks for the reply anyway.
Darrkhan
Profile Joined February 2012
Finland1236 Posts
August 12 2013 08:01 GMT
#145
On August 12 2013 12:17 zusch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 06:26 Coil1 wrote:
On August 11 2013 22:58 zusch wrote:
On August 11 2013 22:02 Ctesias wrote:
Just watched the VODs. Really glad that Maru managed to win it, despite everyone thinking he would lose. His level of preparation, shown against Rain, Innovation and Symbol, are close to reaching Mvp's levels, I'd say. So happy for Maru, and I hope he continues to do well in the future.

Can you link? I'm not seeing anything on OSL Twitch.

http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs2/vod/80761/?set=1
There you go.

Oh see I don't pay for the GomTV ticket. They have been posting all the previous WCS matches to http://www.twitch.tv/wcs_osl/profile usually within 24 hours, but not these.

Thanks for the reply anyway.


http://www.youtube.com/user/wwwlooknu/videos

Found this.
mhael
Profile Joined January 2012
United States102 Posts
August 12 2013 14:08 GMT
#146
if Rain won it would be P is OP.... since Maru won... it's T that is OP.

I hate all the OP talk when HoTs seems pretty balanced.

Great games.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
August 12 2013 16:01 GMT
#147
Congrats to Maru. Hopefully he'll stay around the top for a while.
The heart's eternal vow
Dante_A_
Profile Joined September 2010
United States161 Posts
August 12 2013 16:26 GMT
#148
There is a real spoilers issue with titles like this. I have the "no spoilers" button clicked, and feel comfortable coming to TL before knowing the results, but then on the sidebar that links to the top 6 threads in each forum, titles like this give away the spoiler anyway.

Its even worse when the title of the Up/Down group threads starts with the names of who advances.

Its frustrating to click the no spoilers button and think you are safe but thread titles needlessly spoil them, and they show up on the front page. As others have said, its just as easy to not have a spoiler in the thread title (and was the traditional way of titling threads) to say "OSL Finals Recap, Maru vs Rain", or something similar).

TL should be aware that its "no spoilers" button is ruined by thread titles like this.
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 16:35:02
August 12 2013 16:33 GMT
#149
On August 13 2013 01:26 Dante_A_ wrote:
There is a real spoilers issue with titles like this. I have the "no spoilers" button clicked, and feel comfortable coming to TL before knowing the results, but then on the sidebar that links to the top 6 threads in each forum, titles like this give away the spoiler anyway.

Its even worse when the title of the Up/Down group threads starts with the names of who advances.

Its frustrating to click the no spoilers button and think you are safe but thread titles needlessly spoil them, and they show up on the front page. As others have said, its just as easy to not have a spoiler in the thread title (and was the traditional way of titling threads) to say "OSL Finals Recap, Maru vs Rain", or something similar).

TL should be aware that its "no spoilers" button is ruined by thread titles like this.

The No Spoilers button can also be applied to thread titles in the sidebar, if it's not been applied then there's an issue with the original post itself, not with the No Spoilers function. The Spoiler tag or whatever they use hasn't been applied to the post.

e.g
[image loading]
HOLY CHECK!
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
August 12 2013 16:38 GMT
#150
don't understand why people get so mad when they read something and they get "spoiled"

on another note, so happy to see maru pulling through, kid's a beast
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
Dante_A_
Profile Joined September 2010
United States161 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 20:48:52
August 12 2013 20:41 GMT
#151
On August 13 2013 01:38 renaissanceMAN wrote:
don't understand why people get so mad when they read something and they get "spoiled"

on another note, so happy to see maru pulling through, kid's a beast


Its frustrating because I love SC2 and enjoy watching tournament VODs much more when I don't know the result, which is pretty reasonable. I enjoy watching every single GSL VOD, and the Up/Down groups are a lot of games that I enjoy over the span of a week or two. I have the no spoiler button clicked and don't ever go in threads that would spoil any games for me or contain discussion of the games themselves, yet WaxAngel's threads spoil everything by their thread titles showing up in the sidebar. This goes against the whole point of the spoiler tag and its application.

I'm fine with the "no spoilers" button application and think that is fine, and as was noted it can be applied to thread titles; it just hasn't been for all the Up/Down results and the WCS Korea finals thread for this season.

It stinks to know you have no spoilers clicked, and can't wait to see the OSL finals, and have the result given away because of a thread title that should have had the spoiler button clicked on it.

Edit: Dota has their TI3 thread titled "TI3 finals recap", the sc2 thread creators should be just as considerate by either hiding the title in a spoiler or by titling their thread "OSL Finals Recap" or something of that sort.
zusch
Profile Joined March 2011
United States73 Posts
August 13 2013 04:33 GMT
#152
On August 12 2013 17:01 Darrkhan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 12:17 zusch wrote:
On August 12 2013 06:26 Coil1 wrote:
On August 11 2013 22:58 zusch wrote:
On August 11 2013 22:02 Ctesias wrote:
Just watched the VODs. Really glad that Maru managed to win it, despite everyone thinking he would lose. His level of preparation, shown against Rain, Innovation and Symbol, are close to reaching Mvp's levels, I'd say. So happy for Maru, and I hope he continues to do well in the future.

Can you link? I'm not seeing anything on OSL Twitch.

http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs2/vod/80761/?set=1
There you go.

Oh see I don't pay for the GomTV ticket. They have been posting all the previous WCS matches to http://www.twitch.tv/wcs_osl/profile usually within 24 hours, but not these.

Thanks for the reply anyway.


http://www.youtube.com/user/wwwlooknu/videos

Found this.

Saw your link earlier and saw the games were there. Was planning on saving them for before I went to be and now they apparently have been taken down. Damn GomTV.
Zethiel
Profile Joined September 2010
Bolivia39 Posts
August 13 2013 17:03 GMT
#153
On August 13 2013 13:33 zusch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 17:01 Darrkhan wrote:
On August 12 2013 12:17 zusch wrote:
On August 12 2013 06:26 Coil1 wrote:
On August 11 2013 22:58 zusch wrote:
On August 11 2013 22:02 Ctesias wrote:
Just watched the VODs. Really glad that Maru managed to win it, despite everyone thinking he would lose. His level of preparation, shown against Rain, Innovation and Symbol, are close to reaching Mvp's levels, I'd say. So happy for Maru, and I hope he continues to do well in the future.

Can you link? I'm not seeing anything on OSL Twitch.

http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs2/vod/80761/?set=1
There you go.

Oh see I don't pay for the GomTV ticket. They have been posting all the previous WCS matches to http://www.twitch.tv/wcs_osl/profile usually within 24 hours, but not these.

Thanks for the reply anyway.


http://www.youtube.com/user/wwwlooknu/videos

Found this.

Saw your link earlier and saw the games were there. Was planning on saving them for before I went to be and now they apparently have been taken down. Damn GomTV.


Almost the same happened here. I was watching the series, and when I was trying to load game 6, it appeared the message that the User had to remove the videos
Si no duele, no sirve - Esteban Zenteno
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
August 13 2013 17:05 GMT
#154
This was full tilt tbh. To lose 4 games in a row is not likely for player like Rain.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 13 2013 17:30 GMT
#155
On August 13 2013 05:41 Dante_A_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 01:38 renaissanceMAN wrote:
don't understand why people get so mad when they read something and they get "spoiled"

on another note, so happy to see maru pulling through, kid's a beast


Its frustrating because I love SC2 and enjoy watching tournament VODs much more when I don't know the result, which is pretty reasonable. I enjoy watching every single GSL VOD, and the Up/Down groups are a lot of games that I enjoy over the span of a week or two. I have the no spoiler button clicked and don't ever go in threads that would spoil any games for me or contain discussion of the games themselves, yet WaxAngel's threads spoil everything by their thread titles showing up in the sidebar. This goes against the whole point of the spoiler tag and its application.

I'm fine with the "no spoilers" button application and think that is fine, and as was noted it can be applied to thread titles; it just hasn't been for all the Up/Down results and the WCS Korea finals thread for this season.

It stinks to know you have no spoilers clicked, and can't wait to see the OSL finals, and have the result given away because of a thread title that should have had the spoiler button clicked on it.

Edit: Dota has their TI3 thread titled "TI3 finals recap", the sc2 thread creators should be just as considerate by either hiding the title in a spoiler or by titling their thread "OSL Finals Recap" or something of that sort.


Last season I wasn't able to catch Innovation vs SK live, so I went to GomTV when I came home to watch the VoDs. No TL, no Twitter, no Facebook, no risk. Coming to TL, even when you've clicked "Hide spoilers" is asking for trouble, especially when you've only got a single match to watch.
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