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Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
July 22 2013 09:17 GMT
#181
I would like to know, why they think Proleague is too expensive:

-they said they will keep their Korean house anyway (so paying for the house is not the problem)
-they said they also want to keep Jaedong anyway (so players are not a problem - although maybe they have too big of a roster to pay it all now?)
-the 100k deposit is returnable afaik, so they will get those money back and can use them to participate in next season

So that basically leaves us with coach salary. They even said, that coach Park was more expensive then any of the players in their lineup, including JD and Stephano. So, imo, whether they stay in SPL or leave will depend on if they can find a good coach (not coach-Park good, but good), who speaks at least a little english and is more affordable.
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SlixSC
Profile Joined October 2012
666 Posts
July 22 2013 09:23 GMT
#182
"a recent analysis posted on TL.net outlined in detailed fashion the improvement EG-TL saw under his leadership"

Can I have a link to that analysis please? I need something interesting to read

GL to coach park, best coach
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12025 Posts
July 22 2013 09:26 GMT
#183
GL for CJ, judging by this past proleague I think they need coach parks help.

I kinda wish he'd never left SKT, but oh well :p
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Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
July 22 2013 09:51 GMT
#184
It'll be nice to see Coach coach a winning team again.
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
July 22 2013 10:12 GMT
#185
yeeah, pretty sure no more egtl pl

maybe IM, gstl to ez
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
July 22 2013 10:14 GMT
#186
That was quick. Not even 6 months there
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nickbalev
Profile Joined March 2011
Bulgaria241 Posts
July 22 2013 10:23 GMT
#187
So unholy alliance is over and no more proleague , i wonder what happens to JD and do they play gstl next season individually :>
noipe
whereismymind
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom717 Posts
July 22 2013 10:35 GMT
#188
Sidžej Entus!
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hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
July 22 2013 10:40 GMT
#189
Hm I wish they would have tried one more season with Coach Park and PL. I think they could have made it pretty far.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 22 2013 10:41 GMT
#190
On July 22 2013 18:17 Ammanas wrote:
I would like to know, why they think Proleague is too expensive:

-they said they will keep their Korean house anyway (so paying for the house is not the problem)
-they said they also want to keep Jaedong anyway (so players are not a problem - although maybe they have too big of a roster to pay it all now?)
-the 100k deposit is returnable afaik, so they will get those money back and can use them to participate in next season

So that basically leaves us with coach salary. They even said, that coach Park was more expensive then any of the players in their lineup, including JD and Stephano. So, imo, whether they stay in SPL or leave will depend on if they can find a good coach (not coach-Park good, but good), who speaks at least a little english and is more affordable.

Incontrol says it costs a lot of keep enough players in Korea to compete(and coach park is likely part of that cost) and focus on proleague, while the amount of exposure for EG and TL is not amazing. Since EG and TL have western sponsors, that isn't shocking.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Ender985
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain910 Posts
July 22 2013 10:52 GMT
#191
On July 22 2013 18:23 SlixSC wrote:
"a recent analysis posted on TL.net outlined in detailed fashion the improvement EG-TL saw under his leadership"

Can I have a link to that analysis please? I need something interesting to read

GL to coach park, best coach


I think they may refer to my analysis on EG-TL's proleague performance (link), but I can't be sure since they did not link anything the writeup.

Overall, I agree that this is only bad news for EG-TL, and it looks more and more likely that they will be leaving Proleague. I thought with Park from the get go they could probably achieve playoffs in the 2nd season, but now that he is gone it looks really grim.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 22 2013 10:53 GMT
#192
On July 22 2013 19:52 Ender985 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2013 18:23 SlixSC wrote:
"a recent analysis posted on TL.net outlined in detailed fashion the improvement EG-TL saw under his leadership"

Can I have a link to that analysis please? I need something interesting to read

GL to coach park, best coach


I think they may refer to my analysis on EG-TL's proleague performance (link), but I can't be sure since they did not link anything the writeup.

Overall, I agree that this is only bad news for EG-TL, and it looks more and more likely that they will be leaving Proleague. I thought with Park from the get go they could probably achieve playoffs in the 2nd season, but now that he is gone it looks really grim.

He is an expensive man to have and Proleague might not be making them back the money that justifies them keeping him on.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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SpeaKEaSY
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1070 Posts
July 22 2013 10:58 GMT
#193
SKT needs him back T_T
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v0rtex
Profile Joined November 2011
123 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-22 10:59:48
July 22 2013 10:59 GMT
#194
It'd be upsetting if EG-TL left Proleague however if they do remain in Proleague (seems like a slim chance of this occuring), hopefully coach trOt can help them and I am sure they will keep some of the habits that Coach Park probably implemented.
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WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3455 Posts
July 22 2013 11:00 GMT
#195
Great news!!! CJ hwaiting!
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tadL
Profile Joined September 2010
Croatia679 Posts
July 22 2013 11:07 GMT
#196
WCS region lock coming in right?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45348 Posts
July 22 2013 11:10 GMT
#197
First he leaves SKT, and now EGTL

Best of luck to Park in the future... he's the man! And good luck to EGTL as well
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Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3691 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-22 11:11:48
July 22 2013 11:11 GMT
#198
So a) they are mentally retarded or b) they will not be in proleague next season, I mean park is easily one of the best coaches in the entire scene, if not the best, would be stupid to let him go if you want to stay in PL.

I highly doubt PL will see 7 teams next season, I suspect that PL will stay on break till october, maybe even longer, gom seems interested to run a gstl s2 this year so I say no more proleague till gstl season 2 is done and then we should see a merger between the leagues. Axiom/Acer, Prime and NSHS will either stick around for a season and finish last or disband after gstl s2, thus I say 2014 PL should have SKT1, KT, CJ, Khan, STX (I don't think they'll disband tbh) Wongjin, Jinair, LGIM, MVP, Startale and probably FXO, which tbh would be SICK. But I kinda have the feeling that now that all individual leagues are WCS (fuck you too blizzard) Gom really wants to hold on to gstl, but blizz did mention a desire to integrate team leagues into wcs next year, so maybe we'll just have WCS KR Team League S1 GSTL, S2 PL etc.

@DarkPlasmaBall: He left SKT because they wanted him to do LoL and EGTL was probably like "yeah you go to cj, we gg proleague".
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 22 2013 11:14 GMT
#199
On July 22 2013 20:10 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
First he leaves SKT, and now EGTL

Best of luck to Park in the future... he's the man! And good luck to EGTL as well

He follows the money. The man is well paid for his coaching skills.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
July 22 2013 11:15 GMT
#200
Would be nice to just merge GSTL with PL or something even I know that probably won't happen. I stopped following gstl at all once PL for SC2 started anyway.
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