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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 22 2013 13:42 GMT
#221
On July 22 2013 22:38 HeeroFX wrote:
I feel like it would be worthwhile to keep the EG-TL team together. Hopefully the coaches under Park took notes and the players did too. But if EG-TL decided not to do it, would be kinda cool to see an ESF super star team (aka dream team) of ESF players, like a life,nestea,DRG,MVP, Byun you know.

I hope that the other staff members took notes from Coach Park as well, since there is only one of that man and every team should have good coaching. I think having him come in for a year will still be a huge help to both teams just because they were working with almost nothing before.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
July 22 2013 13:47 GMT
#222
you guys all forget that if you ever win proleague you're basically a really big winner in korea

winning proleague might (or not) bring much more sponsor money you could ever imagine

and in korea that is

some KESPA teams are filthy rich actually
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
July 22 2013 13:50 GMT
#223
Congrats to CJ!

Still, would really have liked to see how much Jaedong could improve with Park's help.
Flash | Mvp
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
July 22 2013 13:54 GMT
#224
On July 22 2013 14:24 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2013 13:42 edgeOut wrote:
On July 22 2013 13:02 Comsat wrote:
On July 22 2013 12:54 larse wrote:
CJ is rich. First acquiring Blaze and Frost, and now Coach Park? So rich.

CJ is a huge entertainment group in korea. They're basically equivalent to Warner Bros in USA. So not surprised they invested into 2 LoL teams as well as coach Park. But look at the bright side, at least that means sc2 isn't completely dead in korea considering CJ thought it was worth it to invest in a new coach.


I think Coach Park will also manage those LoL teams, LoL doesn't have well established coach after all. So it's more of a confirmation on LoL's popularity, rather than SC2 being popular. Most KeSPA head coaches from rich teams also moderate their LoL teams.


Completely wrong. When CJ acquired the Frost/Blaze duo, they also acquired their head coach OnAir and his sub-ordinate Kezman. fOru rounds up the coaching staff coming from the previous CJ team.

The same applies for all the other KeSPA teams with LoL squads - KT Rolster have (Wiki)ZanDarke, SKT T1 have (T)LittleBoy and Jin Air Green Wings have (T)Ensnare.

TL:DR - LoL and SC2 divisions are operated separately.


Thank you for the clarification. That was really helpful. We need to be harsher on people disseminating misinformation.
MarcusWC
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada55 Posts
July 22 2013 14:01 GMT
#225
I would love for the two leagues to merge. I would watch a whole lot more and cheer for the foreign teams. No foreign teams though and I lose interest fast. It would be an EPIC league still.
I've been travelling these last few months and have only been able to catch a few eg-tl and axiom/acer matches in internet cafes around south east asia. Better casting for pl would do wonders imo.
I wish we knew more about blizzards plans for leagues, individual and potential team leagues to help teams(and fans) plan into the next year. Must be hard to make decisions when you don't have the complete picture. For example, will there be more studio matches in na in the future... Residency requirements maybe? The location of such a studio is also important if you plan a long term team house... So much unknowns for us the fans right now. Hopefully he teams have more info
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
July 22 2013 14:03 GMT
#226
On July 22 2013 22:38 HeeroFX wrote:
I feel like it would be worthwhile to keep the EG-TL team together. Hopefully the coaches under Park took notes and the players did too. But if EG-TL decided not to do it, would be kinda cool to see an ESF super star team (aka dream team) of ESF players, like a life,nestea,DRG,MVP, Byun you know.


You do realize trOt was on the SKT coaching staff prior to the EG stint right? *raises eyebrow* It's okay guys soon all of EG's woes will be resolved when Dario teaches them the ways of the beard.

[image loading]

The bearded one cometh. In just one week we will see noticeable improvement in their facial hair.
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-22 17:23:10
July 22 2013 14:09 GMT
#227
Oh well.

He was the lifeline to hoping for another season of EG-TL in Proleague. So much about that. Going back now to how things were before Coach Park just doesn't make much sense. Really a shame.

Next, JD back to his former team? That'd seal it.
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Shadow_Dog
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada427 Posts
July 22 2013 14:16 GMT
#228
Why do people think that the next season of PL is a guarantee? IIRC it took them long time to find the sponsor for the current one. Think about that.
lorestarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1049 Posts
July 22 2013 14:29 GMT
#229
Proleague being awful for english viewers is why EGTL doesn't care about it.
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Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-22 14:43:30
July 22 2013 14:42 GMT
#230
On July 22 2013 23:29 lorestarcraft wrote:
Proleague being awful for english viewers is why EGTL doesn't care about it.


Them not having a snowballs chance in hell of ever placing in the playoffs in their current form is probably another reason as well...
mjuuy
Profile Joined May 2012
Norway506 Posts
July 22 2013 14:45 GMT
#231
GET MBC PAPA BEAR NOW!
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mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
July 22 2013 14:50 GMT
#232
If EG-TL bails, EST should just create a single all-star team from the best players of all teams :D That would be so baller. Would prob be hard to get them to work together like any all-star team but still, amaze
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Albinoswordfish
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States108 Posts
July 22 2013 14:50 GMT
#233
On July 22 2013 23:16 Shadow_Dog wrote:
Why do people think that the next season of PL is a guarantee? IIRC it took them long time to find the sponsor for the current one. Think about that.


What exactly are you talking about?
Mad Scientists
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States18 Posts
July 22 2013 14:52 GMT
#234
What... what?
Become a stronger version of yourself
bsdaemon
Profile Joined July 2012
618 Posts
July 22 2013 14:52 GMT
#235
Wow I kinda feel sad. I thought Coach Park and EG-TL have so much potential combined and will just take time to get results
n0ave
Profile Joined January 2011
180 Posts
July 22 2013 14:56 GMT
#236
Coaching in sc2 is over rated anyway.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 22 2013 14:59 GMT
#237
On July 22 2013 23:56 n0ave wrote:
Coaching in sc2 is over rated anyway.

The evidence for Coach Park speaks volumes, he had the power to make teams win. Good player management always makes teams better.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
July 22 2013 15:15 GMT
#238
JD back to jinair, honestly his time at EG isn't at all useful if he's to start winning championships again.
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 22 2013 15:17 GMT
#239
On July 23 2013 00:15 shadymmj wrote:
JD back to jinair, honestly his time at EG isn't at all useful if he's to start winning championships again.

He just took second at Dreamhack this weekend. Thats pretty good as things go.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-22 15:28:50
July 22 2013 15:28 GMT
#240
EG-TL's success in the next season of Proleague is dependent on several factors. Will Jaedong opt to stay with EG or go back to Jin Air? Will STX really go into administration and either force KeSPA to keep their team afloat or disband? Will EG use the money they'd gain from losing lucrative contracts with IdrA, Stephano and Jaedong to pick up Innovation? Would Liquid finally pick up a good Terran that isn't Taeja? Would KeSPA open the floodgates for eSF teams and if so, how many and which ones?
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