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Elroi
Sweden5585 Posts
On August 29 2013 20:09 brolaf wrote: JD wasnt that fast in bw tbh... he had 350 apm, but the speed freaks like Hero and Hyuk were who had 450 apm JD def was very fast and I have seen him play fast than 350 apm in bw lots of times. Where did you get that from anyway? | ||
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TurboMaN
Germany925 Posts
He has all his units in group 7 so I wonder if he uses A to attack or a complete own hotkey layout. Also he doesn't use group 1 and 2. | ||
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Noobity
United States871 Posts
On August 29 2013 14:50 cutler wrote: Wonderful stream! Thank you for the VOD. Why are people always asking for stream numbers...? I think it is great that Flash, Jaedong etc are streaming. If you want high numbers go watch Athene or LoL Streams. That streams are boring as hell but get high numbers. Actually quite the opposite, Flash's stream was boring and because of this got low numbers. Streamers need to be held to a higher entertainment standard. We shouldn't be praying for these high quality skilled player streams, we should be happy when they come around watch them for what they are, and go back to the entertaining streamers. I don't think LoL is as entertaining a game to watch, but it's certainly infinitely easier to commentate while playing and to learn from or to just have fun doing silly crap while playing. Obviously boring/exciting are dependent on the viewer, but it's considerably more interesting for someone like me to watch someone like Stephano or Idra play because of what they can do outside the game rather than inside. If I want to watch amazing play I can watch any number of pro Korean players stream similar starcraft 2 skill. If I want to be entertained (interaction with chat, comedy, emotion, etc) I can watch any number of less skilled players playing any game that makes them happy. I'm glad Flash streamed if for no other reason than I think that it proved beyond the shadow of a doubt that name recognition and superstar status alone do not mean you can boot up a stream and simply wreck the streaming competition. Streamers need to do more to put them head and shoulders above the crowd, and honestly I don't feel like Starcraft 2 has gameplay that allows them to do that. Frankly I think the best way to raise numbers of an SC2 stream would be to stream practice sessions, which totally destroys the secrecy. I guess pros will just have to decide what's more important, money from tournaments or money from streams :-/ | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On August 29 2013 20:38 TurboMaN wrote: Did Flash change the A button for Attack? He has all his units in group 7 so I wonder if he uses A to attack or a complete own hotkey layout. Also he doesn't use group 1 and 2. The hotkeys are scrambled, so that they can't be identified, or you could pin a barcode to a player by looking at hotkey layout. | ||
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InfCereal
Canada1759 Posts
On August 29 2013 20:44 ZAiNs wrote: The hotkeys are scrambled, so that they can't be identified, or you could pin a barcode to a player by looking at hotkey layout. The account flash was using to stream was: http://www.sc2ranks.com/character/kr/1748813/lllIIIIIlllI/hots/1v1 Hardly needed hotkeys to find that out. | ||
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MasterCynical
505 Posts
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calvinL
Canada416 Posts
On August 29 2013 20:48 InfCereal wrote: The account flash was using to stream was: http://www.sc2ranks.com/character/kr/1748813/lllIIIIIlllI/hots/1v1 Hardly needed hotkeys to find that out. That's a shared account for the team though. He probably doesn't want people to look at the hotkey setups and then trace it back to his own account. | ||
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Hollandrock
United Kingdom158 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40186 Posts
On August 29 2013 20:56 Hollandrock wrote: I'm not surprised that he 'only' hit 11k viewers with the lack of viewability for Europeans. If he streams again at a prime time Europe time (+watchable for America) I think he could get some incredible numbers. Flash will not wake up midnight just to stream for those useless viewers! | ||
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5p4z3n3k0
Netherlands19 Posts
I Think there will be a global spike in lotion sales now.... GL HF all! | ||
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sacrilegious
Canada863 Posts
I worry that his stream numbers if he continues though will be average at best like Jaedong's, as the hype dies over time down similar to when Jaedong started last year up to now. Ugh I wish they eventually could make efforts to speak and/or interact on stream (easier said than done ofc with language barriers) | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40186 Posts
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
On August 29 2013 20:09 brolaf wrote: JD wasnt that fast in bw tbh... he had 350 apm, but the speed freaks like Hero and Hyuk were who had 450 apm Don't forget about July. He clocked in 800 apm on one televised game if I remember correctly. | ||
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mechengineer123
Ukraine711 Posts
On August 29 2013 22:33 sacrilegious wrote: Enjoyed his stream last night, it's nice to see his Terran macro in regular games that we normally see when he plays in tournaments. I worry that his stream numbers if he continues though will be average at best like Jaedong's, as the hype dies over time down similar to when Jaedong started last year up to now. Ugh I wish they eventually could make efforts to speak and/or interact on stream (easier said than done ofc with language barriers) It's also very distracting to speak and one of the reasons most foreigners don't improve. | ||
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
On August 29 2013 20:44 ZAiNs wrote: The hotkeys are scrambled, so that they can't be identified, or you could pin a barcode to a player by looking at hotkey layout. Why didn't he just turn it off? | ||
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Whatson
United States5356 Posts
On August 29 2013 15:14 BigFan wrote: hmm I dunno. I mean yes, he could've played better but his splits were insane at times and his multitasking/macro was pretty amazing. He did look tired though or that he didn't want to play. He did random 2 base timings and used WM/hellbat drops/proxy mass reaper in TvZ, you really think he's going to do that in a real match? | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On August 29 2013 20:09 brolaf wrote: JD wasnt that fast in bw tbh... he had 350 apm, but the speed freaks like Hero and Hyuk were who had 450 apm I hope you guys aren't comparing BW apm to Sc2 apm. The tabulation is different. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40186 Posts
On August 30 2013 05:57 StarStruck wrote: I hope you guys aren't comparing BW apm to Sc2 apm. The tabulation is different. Were not BW APM counting in real time, while SC2's one is still in-game time, no? If so, then 300 SC2 APM = 400 BW APM. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On August 30 2013 05:58 lolfail9001 wrote: Were not BW APM counting in real time, while SC2's one is still in-game time, no? If so, then 300 SC2 APM = 400 BW APM. Something like that. | ||
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