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Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-29 11:23:45
August 29 2013 11:23 GMT
#581
On August 29 2013 20:09 brolaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 11:48 rysecake wrote:
On August 29 2013 11:46 Jer99 wrote:
I feel like zerg does need the most apm anyways, injects, spreading creep, overlord spread, adding units to their hotkeys etc etc thats why jaedong plays a lot faster


jaedong has always played a lot faster even in bw where there was no inject, creep etc

JD wasnt that fast in bw tbh... he had 350 apm, but the speed freaks like Hero and Hyuk were who had 450 apm

JD def was very fast and I have seen him play fast than 350 apm in bw lots of times. Where did you get that from anyway?
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
TurboMaN
Profile Joined October 2005
Germany925 Posts
August 29 2013 11:38 GMT
#582
Did Flash change the A button for Attack?
He has all his units in group 7 so I wonder if he uses A to attack or a complete own hotkey layout.
Also he doesn't use group 1 and 2.
Noobity
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States871 Posts
August 29 2013 11:44 GMT
#583
On August 29 2013 14:50 cutler wrote:
Wonderful stream! Thank you for the VOD.

Why are people always asking for stream numbers...? I think it is great that Flash, Jaedong etc are streaming. If you want high numbers go watch Athene or LoL Streams. That streams are boring as hell but get high numbers.


Actually quite the opposite, Flash's stream was boring and because of this got low numbers.

Streamers need to be held to a higher entertainment standard. We shouldn't be praying for these high quality skilled player streams, we should be happy when they come around watch them for what they are, and go back to the entertaining streamers.

I don't think LoL is as entertaining a game to watch, but it's certainly infinitely easier to commentate while playing and to learn from or to just have fun doing silly crap while playing.

Obviously boring/exciting are dependent on the viewer, but it's considerably more interesting for someone like me to watch someone like Stephano or Idra play because of what they can do outside the game rather than inside. If I want to watch amazing play I can watch any number of pro Korean players stream similar starcraft 2 skill. If I want to be entertained (interaction with chat, comedy, emotion, etc) I can watch any number of less skilled players playing any game that makes them happy.

I'm glad Flash streamed if for no other reason than I think that it proved beyond the shadow of a doubt that name recognition and superstar status alone do not mean you can boot up a stream and simply wreck the streaming competition. Streamers need to do more to put them head and shoulders above the crowd, and honestly I don't feel like Starcraft 2 has gameplay that allows them to do that. Frankly I think the best way to raise numbers of an SC2 stream would be to stream practice sessions, which totally destroys the secrecy. I guess pros will just have to decide what's more important, money from tournaments or money from streams :-/
My name is Mike, and statistically, yours is not.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
August 29 2013 11:44 GMT
#584
On August 29 2013 20:38 TurboMaN wrote:
Did Flash change the A button for Attack?
He has all his units in group 7 so I wonder if he uses A to attack or a complete own hotkey layout.
Also he doesn't use group 1 and 2.

The hotkeys are scrambled, so that they can't be identified, or you could pin a barcode to a player by looking at hotkey layout.
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
August 29 2013 11:48 GMT
#585
On August 29 2013 20:44 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 20:38 TurboMaN wrote:
Did Flash change the A button for Attack?
He has all his units in group 7 so I wonder if he uses A to attack or a complete own hotkey layout.
Also he doesn't use group 1 and 2.

The hotkeys are scrambled, so that they can't be identified, or you could pin a barcode to a player by looking at hotkey layout.


The account flash was using to stream was: http://www.sc2ranks.com/character/kr/1748813/lllIIIIIlllI/hots/1v1

Hardly needed hotkeys to find that out.
Cereal
MasterCynical
Profile Joined September 2012
505 Posts
August 29 2013 11:51 GMT
#586
I'm surprised that it got so high numbers. the stream just came right out of now where, thank goodness I visit reddit often.
calvinL
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada416 Posts
August 29 2013 11:52 GMT
#587
On August 29 2013 20:48 InfCereal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 20:44 ZAiNs wrote:
On August 29 2013 20:38 TurboMaN wrote:
Did Flash change the A button for Attack?
He has all his units in group 7 so I wonder if he uses A to attack or a complete own hotkey layout.
Also he doesn't use group 1 and 2.

The hotkeys are scrambled, so that they can't be identified, or you could pin a barcode to a player by looking at hotkey layout.


The account flash was using to stream was: http://www.sc2ranks.com/character/kr/1748813/lllIIIIIlllI/hots/1v1

Hardly needed hotkeys to find that out.


That's a shared account for the team though. He probably doesn't want people to look at the hotkey setups and then trace it back to his own account.
Hollandrock
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom158 Posts
August 29 2013 11:56 GMT
#588
I'm not surprised that he 'only' hit 11k viewers with the lack of viewability for Europeans. If he streams again at a prime time Europe time (+watchable for America) I think he could get some incredible numbers.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 29 2013 11:58 GMT
#589
On August 29 2013 20:56 Hollandrock wrote:
I'm not surprised that he 'only' hit 11k viewers with the lack of viewability for Europeans. If he streams again at a prime time Europe time (+watchable for America) I think he could get some incredible numbers.

Flash will not wake up midnight just to stream for those useless viewers!
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
5p4z3n3k0
Profile Joined January 2013
Netherlands19 Posts
August 29 2013 12:51 GMT
#590
OOOOWWWW snap just saw that there is a VOD http://www.twitch.tv/ktrolsterflash/b/453050408

I Think there will be a global spike in lotion sales now.... GL HF all!
Don't wake me! I'm working...
sacrilegious
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada863 Posts
August 29 2013 13:33 GMT
#591
Enjoyed his stream last night, it's nice to see his Terran macro in regular games that we normally see when he plays in tournaments.

I worry that his stream numbers if he continues though will be average at best like Jaedong's, as the hype dies over time down similar to when Jaedong started last year up to now. Ugh I wish they eventually could make efforts to speak and/or interact on stream (easier said than done ofc with language barriers)
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 29 2013 14:29 GMT
#592
Upon watching Flash's 2nd game on stream i've got deja vu
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
August 29 2013 14:33 GMT
#593
Flash and JD kinda fall to Innovation and Soulkey though.
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
August 29 2013 19:14 GMT
#594
On August 29 2013 20:09 brolaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 11:48 rysecake wrote:
On August 29 2013 11:46 Jer99 wrote:
I feel like zerg does need the most apm anyways, injects, spreading creep, overlord spread, adding units to their hotkeys etc etc thats why jaedong plays a lot faster


jaedong has always played a lot faster even in bw where there was no inject, creep etc

JD wasnt that fast in bw tbh... he had 350 apm, but the speed freaks like Hero and Hyuk were who had 450 apm

Don't forget about July. He clocked in 800 apm on one televised game if I remember correctly.
Jaedong.
mechengineer123
Profile Joined March 2013
Ukraine711 Posts
August 29 2013 19:16 GMT
#595
On August 29 2013 22:33 sacrilegious wrote:
Enjoyed his stream last night, it's nice to see his Terran macro in regular games that we normally see when he plays in tournaments.

I worry that his stream numbers if he continues though will be average at best like Jaedong's, as the hype dies over time down similar to when Jaedong started last year up to now. Ugh I wish they eventually could make efforts to speak and/or interact on stream (easier said than done ofc with language barriers)

It's also very distracting to speak and one of the reasons most foreigners don't improve.
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
August 29 2013 19:18 GMT
#596
On August 29 2013 20:44 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 20:38 TurboMaN wrote:
Did Flash change the A button for Attack?
He has all his units in group 7 so I wonder if he uses A to attack or a complete own hotkey layout.
Also he doesn't use group 1 and 2.

The hotkeys are scrambled, so that they can't be identified, or you could pin a barcode to a player by looking at hotkey layout.

Why didn't he just turn it off?
Jaedong.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
August 29 2013 20:52 GMT
#597
On August 29 2013 15:14 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 14:36 tuho12345 wrote:
He didn't play to his full skill, lost too many games and he didn't bother to micro at all

hmm I dunno. I mean yes, he could've played better but his splits were insane at times and his multitasking/macro was pretty amazing. He did look tired though or that he didn't want to play.

He did random 2 base timings and used WM/hellbat drops/proxy mass reaper in TvZ, you really think he's going to do that in a real match?
¯\_(シ)_/¯
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 29 2013 20:57 GMT
#598
On August 29 2013 20:09 brolaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 11:48 rysecake wrote:
On August 29 2013 11:46 Jer99 wrote:
I feel like zerg does need the most apm anyways, injects, spreading creep, overlord spread, adding units to their hotkeys etc etc thats why jaedong plays a lot faster


jaedong has always played a lot faster even in bw where there was no inject, creep etc

JD wasnt that fast in bw tbh... he had 350 apm, but the speed freaks like Hero and Hyuk were who had 450 apm


I hope you guys aren't comparing BW apm to Sc2 apm. The tabulation is different.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 29 2013 20:58 GMT
#599
On August 30 2013 05:57 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 20:09 brolaf wrote:
On August 29 2013 11:48 rysecake wrote:
On August 29 2013 11:46 Jer99 wrote:
I feel like zerg does need the most apm anyways, injects, spreading creep, overlord spread, adding units to their hotkeys etc etc thats why jaedong plays a lot faster


jaedong has always played a lot faster even in bw where there was no inject, creep etc

JD wasnt that fast in bw tbh... he had 350 apm, but the speed freaks like Hero and Hyuk were who had 450 apm


I hope you guys aren't comparing BW apm to Sc2 apm. The tabulation is different.

Were not BW APM counting in real time, while SC2's one is still in-game time, no?
If so, then 300 SC2 APM = 400 BW APM.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 29 2013 21:01 GMT
#600
On August 30 2013 05:58 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 05:57 StarStruck wrote:
On August 29 2013 20:09 brolaf wrote:
On August 29 2013 11:48 rysecake wrote:
On August 29 2013 11:46 Jer99 wrote:
I feel like zerg does need the most apm anyways, injects, spreading creep, overlord spread, adding units to their hotkeys etc etc thats why jaedong plays a lot faster


jaedong has always played a lot faster even in bw where there was no inject, creep etc

JD wasnt that fast in bw tbh... he had 350 apm, but the speed freaks like Hero and Hyuk were who had 450 apm


I hope you guys aren't comparing BW apm to Sc2 apm. The tabulation is different.

Were not BW APM counting in real time, while SC2's one is still in-game time, no?
If so, then 300 SC2 APM = 400 BW APM.


Something like that.
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