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On May 13 2014 01:03 geokilla wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2014 00:49 Xiphos wrote:On May 13 2014 00:39 Lorch wrote:
Proleague is by far the most important league in Korean Starcraft. And it has been since 06ish. Your team winning Proleague is way way way more important than anything you could ever do in an individual league or really anything else you could do as a player. Proleague uses a preparation based format and streaming basically gives your opponent free gameplay to study, and it's even better than vods as you get the first person view. Basically watching your opponents stream is the best you could get unless someone leaks you some replays. Now given that Kespa has been known to throw players out of houses for leaking those, your opponent streaming is pretty much the best thing that could ever happen to you in terms of preparation.
Now throw in that Flash plays in pretty much every game KT has and is often used as an Ace, I highly doubt we'll see him stream again.
Personally, I prefer his team and himself to perform well over watching his stream and I feel bad for him being forced to use Razer equipment, especially now that they have invented those god awful switches. No offense to Razer and I appreciate the amount of equipment/cash they are throwing at eSports, but I have never used anything from them that was good. Agreed, I also think that the reason that Prime, MVP, and IM are at the bottom of PL is also because they have players that constantly stream which exposes their strategies by quite a lot. Innovation and Taeja stream quite a lot. Look at how good they are.
But they are not playing in Proleague and playing a best of 1 is so much different than playing a best of 3 or more.
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On May 13 2014 01:33 Hadronsbecrazy wrote:
guys you realise pros dont use their builds on stream , they show the really standard go to builds. All the specially created crap we dont get to see until the day of the actual game.
you don't even need to watch the builds, just knowing the (bad) habbits of your opponent is so huge.
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On May 13 2014 01:38 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2014 01:33 Hadronsbecrazy wrote:
guys you realise pros dont use their builds on stream , they show the really standard go to builds. All the specially created crap we dont get to see until the day of the actual game. you don't even need to watch the builds, just knowing the (bad) habbits of your opponent is so huge.
Yeah, Flash doesn't want people to know he likes to 14CC.
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On May 13 2014 01:46 GinDo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2014 01:38 sAsImre wrote:On May 13 2014 01:33 Hadronsbecrazy wrote:
guys you realise pros dont use their builds on stream , they show the really standard go to builds. All the specially created crap we dont get to see until the day of the actual game. you don't even need to watch the builds, just knowing the (bad) habbits of your opponent is so huge. Yeah, Flash doesn't want people to know he likes to 14CC.
mechanical habbits... since when 14cc isn't a build ?
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On May 13 2014 01:28 HeeroFX wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2014 01:09 Xiphos wrote:On May 13 2014 01:03 geokilla wrote:On May 13 2014 00:49 Xiphos wrote:On May 13 2014 00:39 Lorch wrote:
Proleague is by far the most important league in Korean Starcraft. And it has been since 06ish. Your team winning Proleague is way way way more important than anything you could ever do in an individual league or really anything else you could do as a player. Proleague uses a preparation based format and streaming basically gives your opponent free gameplay to study, and it's even better than vods as you get the first person view. Basically watching your opponents stream is the best you could get unless someone leaks you some replays. Now given that Kespa has been known to throw players out of houses for leaking those, your opponent streaming is pretty much the best thing that could ever happen to you in terms of preparation.
Now throw in that Flash plays in pretty much every game KT has and is often used as an Ace, I highly doubt we'll see him stream again.
Personally, I prefer his team and himself to perform well over watching his stream and I feel bad for him being forced to use Razer equipment, especially now that they have invented those god awful switches. No offense to Razer and I appreciate the amount of equipment/cash they are throwing at eSports, but I have never used anything from them that was good. Agreed, I also think that the reason that Prime, MVP, and IM are at the bottom of PL is also because they have players that constantly stream which exposes their strategies by quite a lot. Innovation and Taeja stream quite a lot. Look at how good they are. So good that they are not even in PL. You realize team liquid and Acer don't play in PL, so how could they? But the point the guy is making is that Taeja and Jaedong for example stream a lot and often make it to the top 4 of major tournaments. Flash, probably doesn't stream because he doesn't want people to steal from him, or see how he plays Terran, but in all honesty I don't think there is much "innovation" left in this game.
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On May 13 2014 01:02 rafaliusz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2014 00:46 sabas123 wrote:On May 13 2014 00:39 Lorch wrote:
Proleague is by far the most important league in Korean Starcraft. And it has been since 06ish. Your team winning Proleague is way way way more important than anything you could ever do in an individual league or really anything else you could do as a player. Proleague uses a preparation based format and streaming basically gives your opponent free gameplay to study, and it's even better than vods as you get the first person view. Basically watching your opponents stream is the best you could get unless someone leaks you some replays. Now given that Kespa has been known to throw players out of houses for leaking those, your opponent streaming is pretty much the best thing that could ever happen to you in terms of preparation.
Now throw in that Flash plays in pretty much every game KT has and is often used as an Ace, I highly doubt we'll see him stream again.
Personally, I prefer his team and himself to perform well over watching his stream and I feel bad for him being forced to use Razer equipment, especially now that they have invented those god awful switches. No offense to Razer and I appreciate the amount of equipment/cash they are throwing at eSports, but I have never used anything from them that was good. I didn;t knew players got kicked out for leaking replays0_o, any link to this? Suprised you, as a Netherlander, are saying that. Ask ret on leaking replays and getting kicked out of the house.
Wait, KESPA, kicked ret out of the house?0_o I can't find anything about it being kespa, also did anybody else got kicked? since if it was just ret on a team who he just joined, from a totaly diffrent culture with bad relationships within the team, how credit worthy is it to make such statements?
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On May 13 2014 02:05 sabas123 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2014 01:02 rafaliusz wrote:On May 13 2014 00:46 sabas123 wrote:On May 13 2014 00:39 Lorch wrote:
Proleague is by far the most important league in Korean Starcraft. And it has been since 06ish. Your team winning Proleague is way way way more important than anything you could ever do in an individual league or really anything else you could do as a player. Proleague uses a preparation based format and streaming basically gives your opponent free gameplay to study, and it's even better than vods as you get the first person view. Basically watching your opponents stream is the best you could get unless someone leaks you some replays. Now given that Kespa has been known to throw players out of houses for leaking those, your opponent streaming is pretty much the best thing that could ever happen to you in terms of preparation.
Now throw in that Flash plays in pretty much every game KT has and is often used as an Ace, I highly doubt we'll see him stream again.
Personally, I prefer his team and himself to perform well over watching his stream and I feel bad for him being forced to use Razer equipment, especially now that they have invented those god awful switches. No offense to Razer and I appreciate the amount of equipment/cash they are throwing at eSports, but I have never used anything from them that was good. I didn;t knew players got kicked out for leaking replays0_o, any link to this? Suprised you, as a Netherlander, are saying that. Ask ret on leaking replays and getting kicked out of the house. Wait, KESPA, kicked ret out of the house?0_o I can't find anything about it being kespa, also did anybody else got kicked? since if it was just ret on a team who he just joined, from a totaly diffrent culture with bad relationships within the team, how credit worthy is it to make such statements?
It wasn't Kespa and neither the guy you quoted thought it was Kespa. It was rather a brachylogy, and by Kespa he meant Kespa teams.
The whole situation was a misunderstanding, Ret didn't leak any replays and later on he even moved back in to the house but it shows that Kespa teams are really serious about their players replays and especially strategies they use.
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On May 13 2014 02:36 rafaliusz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2014 02:05 sabas123 wrote:On May 13 2014 01:02 rafaliusz wrote:On May 13 2014 00:46 sabas123 wrote:On May 13 2014 00:39 Lorch wrote:
Proleague is by far the most important league in Korean Starcraft. And it has been since 06ish. Your team winning Proleague is way way way more important than anything you could ever do in an individual league or really anything else you could do as a player. Proleague uses a preparation based format and streaming basically gives your opponent free gameplay to study, and it's even better than vods as you get the first person view. Basically watching your opponents stream is the best you could get unless someone leaks you some replays. Now given that Kespa has been known to throw players out of houses for leaking those, your opponent streaming is pretty much the best thing that could ever happen to you in terms of preparation.
Now throw in that Flash plays in pretty much every game KT has and is often used as an Ace, I highly doubt we'll see him stream again.
Personally, I prefer his team and himself to perform well over watching his stream and I feel bad for him being forced to use Razer equipment, especially now that they have invented those god awful switches. No offense to Razer and I appreciate the amount of equipment/cash they are throwing at eSports, but I have never used anything from them that was good. I didn;t knew players got kicked out for leaking replays0_o, any link to this? Suprised you, as a Netherlander, are saying that. Ask ret on leaking replays and getting kicked out of the house. Wait, KESPA, kicked ret out of the house?0_o I can't find anything about it being kespa, also did anybody else got kicked? since if it was just ret on a team who he just joined, from a totaly diffrent culture with bad relationships within the team, how credit worthy is it to make such statements? It wasn't Kespa and neither the guy you quoted thought it was Kespa. It was rather a brachylogy, and by Kespa he meant Kespa teams. The whole situation was a misunderstanding, Ret didn't leak any replays and later on he even moved back in to the house but it shows that Kespa teams are really serious about their players replays and especially strategies they use.
ahh ok, that does make sense.
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On May 12 2014 23:19 lolmlg wrote:Show nested quote +"It's no secret how seriously I take my gaming hardware and it's truly an honor for me to use gaming equipment produced by Razer," said Flash. "Of all equipment manufacturers in global gaming, Razer products mean I am fully prepared to win. The way I can find subtle advantage and a feeling of stability in Razer product is very special and allows me to concentrate on the game and winning as I must." Kind of funny that they went to the trouble of suggesting that Razer gear gives him an advantage but toned it down by calling it "subtle" to avoid making the situation seem unfair. It's quantifiable, but it's no big deal! Buy it, it won't make that much of a difference!
Actually, these kinds of statements end up biting players in the ass. What happens if razor drops him. How can he go to a company like SteelSeries now and say, "no no, I was wrong YOU have the best product now." Next time he should leave it more generic and not "over the top" comments on gaming gear which could potentially burn bridges in the future.
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On May 13 2014 03:56 SirPinky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 23:19 lolmlg wrote:"It's no secret how seriously I take my gaming hardware and it's truly an honor for me to use gaming equipment produced by Razer," said Flash. "Of all equipment manufacturers in global gaming, Razer products mean I am fully prepared to win. The way I can find subtle advantage and a feeling of stability in Razer product is very special and allows me to concentrate on the game and winning as I must." Kind of funny that they went to the trouble of suggesting that Razer gear gives him an advantage but toned it down by calling it "subtle" to avoid making the situation seem unfair. It's quantifiable, but it's no big deal! Buy it, it won't make that much of a difference! Actually, these kinds of statements end up biting players in the ass. What happens if razor drops him. How can he go to a company like SteelSeries now and say, "no no, I was wrong YOU have the best product now." Next time he should leave it more generic and not "over the top" comments on gaming gear which could potentially burn bridges in the future.
Nah, business don't care. Or maybe it could even be preferred as it "shows" that their product is better than the competition as the player switched to theirs. Either way it worked just fine for EG.
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On May 13 2014 04:04 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2014 03:56 SirPinky wrote:On May 12 2014 23:19 lolmlg wrote:"It's no secret how seriously I take my gaming hardware and it's truly an honor for me to use gaming equipment produced by Razer," said Flash. "Of all equipment manufacturers in global gaming, Razer products mean I am fully prepared to win. The way I can find subtle advantage and a feeling of stability in Razer product is very special and allows me to concentrate on the game and winning as I must." Kind of funny that they went to the trouble of suggesting that Razer gear gives him an advantage but toned it down by calling it "subtle" to avoid making the situation seem unfair. It's quantifiable, but it's no big deal! Buy it, it won't make that much of a difference! Actually, these kinds of statements end up biting players in the ass. What happens if razor drops him. How can he go to a company like SteelSeries now and say, "no no, I was wrong YOU have the best product now." Next time he should leave it more generic and not "over the top" comments on gaming gear which could potentially burn bridges in the future. Nah, business don't care. Or maybe it could even be preferred as it "shows" that their product is better than the competition as the player switched to theirs. Either way it worked just fine for EG.
Point taken with EG - People have short memories 
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Flash expressed embarrassment at how he did while streaming. I think he'll stream again, but when he's more confident. Probably during off season.
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Excuse me about bumping this thread, but do you guys think since it's off season there is a chance that flash will stream again ? Given his recent performances I think it would be a gift for every terrans to watch him play ^^
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On August 13 2014 01:53 Twine wrote:
Excuse me about bumping this thread, but do you guys think since it's off season there is a chance that flash will stream again ? Given his recent performances I think it would be a gift for every terrans to watch him play ^^
No.
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No he won't. He has Code S matches on the 21st of August, no way he streams.
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On August 13 2014 02:21 Ctone23 wrote:
No he won't. He has Code S matches on the 21st of August, no way he streams.
not even for a million dollars? :O
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On August 13 2014 10:32 EJK wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2014 02:21 Ctone23 wrote:
No he won't. He has Code S matches on the 21st of August, no way he streams. not even for a million dollars? :O
Are you prepared to give him $1,000,000 to stream?
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On August 13 2014 10:33 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2014 10:32 EJK wrote:On August 13 2014 02:21 Ctone23 wrote:
No he won't. He has Code S matches on the 21st of August, no way he streams. not even for a million dollars? :O Are you prepared to give him $1,000,000 to stream?
I wish I had a million dollars.
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so after all this hoopla, how many times did he stream? twice? or was it only once?
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I think he'll wait til the GSL season is over to stream again, so probably at least a month. Will check this thread daily though.
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