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human_player
Australia6 Posts
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AnachronisticAnarchy
United States2957 Posts
On June 16 2013 00:50 R1CH wrote: The map was pretty much 100% Bang! mechanics with name changes. Heh. That alone is enough for a DQ, copyright problems aside. | ||
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AiurTemplar
China12 Posts
On June 16 2013 00:50 R1CH wrote: The map was pretty much 100% Bang! mechanics with name changes. Those who said so must have not played BarCraft at all, at least not played after the rage expansion. | ||
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AiurTemplar
China12 Posts
On June 19 2013 08:53 human_player wrote: pretty funny blizzard would just abandon its modding community, especially since now blizzard has to sponsor them. no wonder customs are dead in this game. You know what, we wrote to Blizzard and they don't tell us what should we do to make BarCraft online again. We must talk to davinci all by our self. Let me quote - "Blizzard is not in the position to discuss the legalities of the claim". Which means, put BarCraft aside,if you are a modder and you made a custom map in StarCraft II arcade, you can be easily destroyed by malicious prosecution. As long as there are someone sued you and said you are violating DMCA or something like that, and they don't withdrawal of the suit (of course they don't, they are just trouble maker), YOUR GAME WILL BE DEAD FOREVER. unless you hire a lawyer and win the case, but you know the price, it will take you at least half a year and tons of dollars and remember you can't make profit from StarCraft II custom map at all. Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnd Blizzard will just be a looker. | ||
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Attica
United States277 Posts
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felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
On June 19 2013 09:40 AiurTemplar wrote: You know what, we wrote to Blizzard and they don't tell us what should we do to make BarCraft online again. We must talk to davinci all by our self. Let me quote - "Blizzard is not in the position to discuss the legalities of the claim". Which means, put BarCraft aside,if you are a modder and you made a custom map in StarCraft II arcade, you can be easily destroyed by malicious prosecution. As long as there are someone sued you and said you are violating DMCA or something like that, and they don't withdrawal of the suit (of course they don't, they are just trouble maker), YOUR GAME WILL BE DEAD FOREVER. unless you hire a lawyer and win the case, but you know the price, it will take you at least half a year and tons of dollars and remember you can't make profit from StarCraft II custom map at all. Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnd Blizzard will just be a looker. Seriously, if you want to argue with this, consult an American lawyer first. Because the laws involved will be American. Your grasp of the copyright system and laws in the United States and as they apply to American companies is deeply flawed. Or it is, if you are only now realizing how it works between content creators and content hosts. Blizzard is not involved. You and the other claimant are. It is EXACTLY the same as YouTube. Whether the content is a map, a song, a piece of poetry, it doesn't matter. And all this talk of "you can't copyright game mechanics" crap makes me think you've never heard of TSR, Inc, which made itself a lot of money doing exactly that. Or Wizards of the Coast. TL;dr - you're wrong, your argument is flawed, sorry but this happens in the world outside China. | ||
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xShadow53
14 Posts
On June 19 2013 10:22 Attica wrote: This is ironic considering China steals intellectual property all the time. So only China can steal IP's? Yeah,no. On topic. This game is nothing like bang!, It really does suck it has to be removed. | ||
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AiurTemplar
China12 Posts
On June 19 2013 18:31 felisconcolori wrote: Seriously, if you want to argue with this, consult an American lawyer first. Because the laws involved will be American. Your grasp of the copyright system and laws in the United States and as they apply to American companies is deeply flawed. Or it is, if you are only now realizing how it works between content creators and content hosts. Blizzard is not involved. You and the other claimant are. It is EXACTLY the same as YouTube. Whether the content is a map, a song, a piece of poetry, it doesn't matter. And all this talk of "you can't copyright game mechanics" crap makes me think you've never heard of TSR, Inc, which made itself a lot of money doing exactly that. Or Wizards of the Coast. TL;dr - you're wrong, your argument is flawed, sorry but this happens in the world outside China. Thanks for your reply, I agree with your opinions and I was just complaining. But maybe you can check this out: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/05/apple-lodsys-response/ and this: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-06-19-tetris-clone-loses-potentially-significant-court-battle These materials are some friend send to us by email, and it will be helpful if you can send me some materials about TSR, Inc and Wizards of the Coast. But they are board game companies, right? I don't know if video game industry have a same rule. And we can't afford a lawyer in America. | ||
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AiurTemplar
China12 Posts
On June 20 2013 08:54 xShadow53 wrote: So only China can steal IP's? Yeah,no. On topic. This game is nothing like bang!, It really does suck it has to be removed. Yes, Chinese game industry(and maybe the whole IT industry) are famous for stealing, and we are shamed about that either, and if we wanted to be a part of that we won't make games on SC2 arcade at all,because all custom maps are amateur games without profiting. | ||
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AiurTemplar
China12 Posts
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ETisME
12837 Posts
On June 19 2013 05:23 skipdog172 wrote: are people not seeing this post or what? if its clear that it was completely copied just with name changes, how can you all defend the OP so much? screaming 'but china doesn't have copyright laws' doesn't make it right. just on topic, I was reading about barcraft the game and noticed this pretty well listed difference between bang! and barcraft and personally I think it's unfair since some have never played the game but read what R1CH wrote and call it absolute truth. http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/9280998450?page=3 read what Gruenwald has written, some example: "You can't rescue someone with beer in Bang! but you can in BarCraft. BarCraft introduced the Rage-System, which Bang! has not, plus BC has much more cards and heros. " | ||
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
On June 19 2013 10:22 Attica wrote: This is ironic considering China steals intellectual property all the time. The company in question is maybe Chinese, but not China. | ||
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GenesisX
Canada4267 Posts
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Daumen
Germany1073 Posts
On July 06 2013 11:15 GenesisX wrote: Sorry for the bump, but it seems like this game is back up on the arcade? It's being uploaded by "modders" Thanks for the bump, any significant changes to the game? I cant check from here. Edit: Checked the BarCraft Forums, they made no announcement on why its back. | ||
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Mefano
Sweden190 Posts
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AiurTemplar
China12 Posts
On July 06 2013 11:28 Daumen wrote: Thanks for the bump, any significant changes to the game? I cant check from here. Edit: Checked the BarCraft Forums, they made no announcement on why its back. That's a good sign, isn't it? Maybe they have already made a reconciliation with Blizzard. | ||
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Daumen
Germany1073 Posts
On July 08 2013 11:51 AiurTemplar wrote: That's a good sign, isn't it? Maybe they have already made a reconciliation with Blizzard. wait what? YOU are the Community Manager guy on the Forums of Crusade of Blader, right? You also helped with Designing BarCraft (maybe you are even 1 of the programmers?), you dont know why BarCraft is back? You guys havent been contacted?! Im so confused right now. But all in all its a good sign, I would contact Blizzard anyways if I were you. | ||
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AiurTemplar
China12 Posts
On July 08 2013 11:57 Daumen wrote: wait what? YOU are the Community Manager guy on the Forums of Crusade of Blader, right? You also helped with Designing BarCraft (maybe you are even 1 of the programmers?), you dont know why BarCraft is back? You guys havent been contacted?! Im so confused right now. But all in all its a good sign, I would contact Blizzard anyways if I were you. Nice to see ya here Daumen I'm not the boss, so I'm waiting for further information either. | ||
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AiurTemplar
China12 Posts
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