EPTOn June 15 2013 17:04 Herper wrote:
So how similar is this "Bang!" game to your BarCraft game?
So how similar is this "Bang!" game to your BarCraft game?
The map was pretty much 100% Bang! mechanics with name changes.
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R1CH
Netherlands10342 Posts
The map was pretty much 100% Bang! mechanics with name changes. | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On June 16 2013 00:50 R1CH wrote: The map was pretty much 100% Bang! mechanics with name changes. if this is true then I can see why Blizzard would've taken it down but it's still sad that there was no discussion with the makers of this custom game to change it so that they can keep the custom and satisfy davinci :/ | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On June 16 2013 01:02 Caihead wrote: That's too bad... I honestly don't see the rationality of the company going after the custom map if they aren't even offering their game in SC2. If anything it's basically free advertising for them, why not just ask the Barcraft guys to change the name, or move ownership to them. If other fields were also as strict with their copy right lawsuits then the whole idea of "fashion" would go down the drain. Well...the Fashion industry is trying to have copyright applied to their creations, so... | ||
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Blisse
Canada3710 Posts
1. Ask to remove it immediately 2. Negotiate with Blizzard to compensate them for the copyright infringement and re-host the game under their guidance The company chose to ask Blizzard to remove it completely, or Blizzard chose to just remove it instead of dealing with negotiations. In any case, this is why game companies get mad at shit like this. Someone blatantly rips off your game under another system such that you don't get compensated in any way for it, they ask them to take it down, and people get mad at the company who owns the actual infringed game for wanting to have a clearly infringing product taken down. I don't see a problem with people wanting a clone of their product removed rather than working with the cloners, because if I were part of that company, the cloners were asshats for ripping off my game without telling me, and I wouldn't want to work with them. | ||
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Sumadin
Denmark588 Posts
It seems to me that the easiest thing to try right now would be to try and get an agreement with daVinci Games. No copyright claim, no Blizzard taking down Barcraft. | ||
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atkvic
Canada3 Posts
so are you getting sued now? that's sad | ||
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Xapti
Canada2473 Posts
On June 16 2013 03:48 Sumadin wrote: How does it seem that way?It seems they do have a case for their copyright demands. Their demands are absurd and baseless. I don't think you can claim copyright infringement just because a game is similar to another. It's pretty damn clear-cut AFAIK. Blizzard is an experienced and rich (full of legal staff) organization that should know this. I don't know what exactly they're worried about. As far as I understand, if litigation was to occur, at least in Italy (and possibly in USA) the winning side will have all their legal fees paid for by the loosing side. Since Blizzard should know that they couldn't lose a case, there's no reason why they should back down, since the Creators of Bang! will only be shooting themselves in the foot since they'll be losing not only their own legal fees worth of funds, but also their opponent's. Maybe my view is incorrect/skewed, but from what I've seen and heard, I don't see how there's any legitimacy to their demand or a case, and I would certainly like to hear an explanation of otherwise. | ||
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Ichabod
United States1659 Posts
On June 16 2013 04:36 Xapti wrote: How does it seem that way? Their demands are absurd and baseless. I don't think you can claim copyright infringement just because a game is similar to another. It's pretty damn clear-cut AFAIK. Blizzard is an experienced and rich (full of legal staff) organization that should know this. I don't know what exactly they're worried about. As far as I understand, if litigation was to occur, at least in Italy (and possibly in USA) the winning side will have all their legal fees paid for by the loosing side. Since Blizzard should know that they couldn't lose a case, there's no reason why they should back down, since the Creators of Bang! will only be shooting themselves in the foot since they'll be losing not only their own legal fees worth of funds, but also their opponent's. Maybe my view is incorrect/skewed, but from what I've seen and heard, I don't see how there's any legitimacy to their demand or a case, and I would certainly like to hear an explanation of otherwise. It almost doesn't matter if their claim is baseless. If they can force Blizzard into court, that's a significant waste of money for Blizzard. Blizzard's incentive to protect the "Barcraft" map is less than the expected loss of going to court. Edit: The loser doesn't pay legal fees in the USA in most cases. | ||
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Nerski
United States1095 Posts
It's common sense if you essentially copy a product to release a new product, you run a massive risk of getting busted for copyright infringement. No matter how different you make it look if it works exactly the same, you will have one heck of a hard time proving you didn't copy the other peoples work. Maybe in the future if you don't want to have your work go to waste, you do this new hip thing all the kids are doing. You sit down with your team and you come up with your own idea from scratch, and build that into a product. If that's to much investment in time for you then quit bothering to make things. | ||
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QzYSc2
Netherlands281 Posts
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Cayn
Germany173 Posts
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On June 16 2013 03:05 WolfintheSheep wrote: Well...the Fashion industry is trying to have copyright applied to their creations, so... Fashion is a general design principle that applies to all trades, not just clothing. | ||
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kckkryptonite
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jcroisdale
United States1543 Posts
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On June 16 2013 08:29 kckkryptonite wrote: Just pathetic and petty by daVinci, I doubt it would be worth it for them to pay a lawyer, considering BarCraft is a custom map making no profit, nor is Blizzard. The game is similar, but not an exact copy. It's like Bizzard going after MOBAs since the original was made in BW/WC3... Oh wait, they did and couldn't get anything from Valve. They didn't go after moba's. They did go after dota2. Also if it is indeed nearly 100% the same with just name changes they are in the right since it enables people to play the game yet without paying for it. | ||
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kckkryptonite
1126 Posts
On June 16 2013 08:47 Assirra wrote: They didn't go after moba's. They did go after dota2. Also if it is indeed nearly 100% the same with just name changes they are in the right since it enables people to play the game yet without paying for it. It's not 100% the same. It's like LoL is to DotA or HoN - core gameplay is similar. | ||
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b0lt
United States790 Posts
On June 16 2013 00:50 R1CH wrote: The map was pretty much 100% Bang! mechanics with name changes. Game mechanics are not copyrightable. | ||
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Daumen
Germany1073 Posts
Hope BarCraft can be brought back, Was actually the best map available on the Arcade. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9175 Posts
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