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You can no longer be demoted during a season! - Page 13

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aTcho
Profile Joined May 2012
France18 Posts
June 04 2013 08:32 GMT
#241
Thats kinda bad tbh, there are already too many master players who should be diamond instead.
Leagues placement is meaningless now, and the skill gap between high ranked players and mid-low ranked players is going to be bigger than ever.

The warcraft III Battle.net ranking was way better in my opinion.
Handlebar
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
Netherlands13 Posts
June 04 2013 08:33 GMT
#242
It shouldnt matter, only MMR is important. It only means that the border around your name doesnt reflect your MMR if you have a lot of losses. That does explain why the MM system sometimes pits you against people a couple of ranks above you (Im a bronze). Your league is just a border, the game is what's important.

Its a shame your MMR is not shown like ELO was in LoL a while back. Im sure that will lead to other problems (people worrying about losing MMR points instead of their border), but apparantly there is a need to see what 'skill' you have compared to others, and league isnt really a good point of measurement.
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 09:05:29
June 04 2013 09:04 GMT
#243
On June 04 2013 17:00 Raven_zero300 wrote:
News Flash: B.net ladder stopped mattering when they removed losses. The inability to be demoted in a season just makes the ladder even more of a joke.

Blizzard continues to disappoint.

Bnet does show losses. Even for bronze players.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
June 04 2013 09:07 GMT
#244
I think this is fine... Don't see why it's such a problem to some people :O
theBOOCH
Profile Joined November 2010
United States832 Posts
June 04 2013 09:07 GMT
#245
Wow, this is silly. I'm sure they're just doing it to prevent ladder bombing.
If all you're offering is Dos Equis, I will stay thirsty thank you very much.
FoxShine
Profile Joined January 2012
United States156 Posts
June 04 2013 09:09 GMT
#246
I think this will make obtaining higher leagues less of a feat. Because right now being in masters and having alot of games played means you maintain that level of skill. I've been put down to diamond and then worked my way up to masters again because of skill decline. Will it be left up to points and rank to determine level? Because i can see masters being somewhat overpopulated because of this. Maybe im being biased as it could happen even in the lower leagues.
We do what we must, because we can
Lelantoss
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3 Posts
June 04 2013 09:11 GMT
#247
Remember though, you can still choose to leave your ladder division. You might still be able to rank down by continuously losing your placement matches.
Hermanoid
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden213 Posts
June 04 2013 09:43 GMT
#248
Well,I still think spountaneous promotion/demotion is good. I wouldn't polymerize the entire ladder into a mostly immovable piece of blob. I simply like the fight for promotion, and if that's to exist without unbalancing the ladder, then demotion has to there too.
xyzåäö
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
June 04 2013 09:46 GMT
#249
i don't mind it i guess
MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
Soeta
Profile Joined November 2011
Norway6 Posts
June 04 2013 09:48 GMT
#250
There is a way to leave your current league. I have never tried it, but if it is so that you get 5 new placement matches if you leave your league, then this is just brilliant.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ what can I say?
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
June 04 2013 09:52 GMT
#251
Just another move to make players feel better about themselves
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 09:53:06
June 04 2013 09:52 GMT
#252
On June 04 2013 18:48 Soeta wrote:
There is a way to leave your current league. I have never tried it, but if it is so that you get 5 new placement matches if you leave your league, then this is just brilliant.

You get one new placement match. Otherwise you would be able to smurf.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
habeck
Profile Joined February 2011
1120 Posts
June 04 2013 10:01 GMT
#253
On June 04 2013 17:10 Koshi wrote:
I like it. The next step should be to try and make divisions a bit more competitive on the lower levels. Even in Masters you still have a gazillion people with 0-5 games in each division. Kinda silly.
I would prefer division with 1000 people or something. I don't know.

But I like this. Fear of demotion should be removed for the people that care about it.


Ye i would really like divisions with more people, would be more fun
kaluro
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands760 Posts
June 04 2013 10:24 GMT
#254
On June 04 2013 07:05 Savage88 wrote:
Thats just a terrible idea. Since HotS it feels leagues are getting worse and worse. I was Plat all of WoL and I'm Masters now even I haven't improved at all. It feels like people in Masters are more Plat WoL Level now and if you cannot get demoted it makes it even worse.



If you play terran I can agree to the phenomenon.
I am a top 25 masters (1k+ points), and literally 9 out of 10 terrans I meet, were low/mid diamond before HotS, and are top 25 masters now. They also agree they havent increased in skill, but widow mines and hellbats happened.

This isn't a balance complaint thread, this is an accumulation of observations.
www.twitch.tv/kaluroo - 720p60fps - Remember the name! - Don't do your best, do whatever it takes.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 10:28:12
June 04 2013 10:27 GMT
#255
On June 04 2013 19:24 kaluro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 07:05 Savage88 wrote:
Thats just a terrible idea. Since HotS it feels leagues are getting worse and worse. I was Plat all of WoL and I'm Masters now even I haven't improved at all. It feels like people in Masters are more Plat WoL Level now and if you cannot get demoted it makes it even worse.



If you play terran I can agree to the phenomenon.
I am a top 25 masters (1k+ points), and literally 9 out of 10 terrans I meet, were low/mid diamond before HotS, and are top 25 masters now. They also agree they havent increased in skill, but widow mines and hellbats happened.

This isn't a balance complaint thread, this is an accumulation of observations.

Let's make a bet.
If what you just claimed is true I get permabanned.
If what you just claimed is data pulled straight out of your ass, not even close to the truth, you get permabanned.
I had a good night of sleep.
kaluro
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands760 Posts
June 04 2013 10:31 GMT
#256
On June 04 2013 19:27 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 19:24 kaluro wrote:
On June 04 2013 07:05 Savage88 wrote:
Thats just a terrible idea. Since HotS it feels leagues are getting worse and worse. I was Plat all of WoL and I'm Masters now even I haven't improved at all. It feels like people in Masters are more Plat WoL Level now and if you cannot get demoted it makes it even worse.



If you play terran I can agree to the phenomenon.
I am a top 25 masters (1k+ points), and literally 9 out of 10 terrans I meet, were low/mid diamond before HotS, and are top 25 masters now. They also agree they havent increased in skill, but widow mines and hellbats happened.

This isn't a balance complaint thread, this is an accumulation of observations.

Let's make a bet.
If what you just claimed is true I get permabanned.
If what you just claimed is data pulled straight out of your ass, not even close to the truth, you get permabanned.


Okay, go to my profile http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2240242/1/Kaluro/
or go in-game (kaluro.650 EU) and check my match history versus terrans.
Then go to ladder -> career summary and click on WoL.
Then check how many of them were low/mid diamond before HotS, go on ^_^.
www.twitch.tv/kaluroo - 720p60fps - Remember the name! - Don't do your best, do whatever it takes.
kinsky
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany368 Posts
June 04 2013 10:34 GMT
#257
I don´t like this change at all! When there is a way up, there also have to be a way down!
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
June 04 2013 10:36 GMT
#258
Well that's stupid.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
June 04 2013 10:39 GMT
#259
This is still a good move to "cater" the lower league players who are having trouble moving up. For them, getting to a new league means that, at least for that season, they'll stay in that league and all their efforts of advancing a league will be "safe".

It's a good move in that it will augment the amount of total players playing sc2. Honestly, many of you are unhappy about it, but is it warranted? It's almost impossible to be demoted as it is.
maru lover forever
A Wild Sosd
Profile Joined September 2012
Australia421 Posts
June 04 2013 10:41 GMT
#260
You can still be promoted I assume?
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