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InsidiA
Canada1169 Posts
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
But WCS AM was so crappy I take back that opinion and think we'd have been better with NASL. | ||
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Channel56k
United States413 Posts
Understandably, there are those who get the first 8 rows special, but there were late-comers who were getting balcony seats an it was a little like... wut..? Me and a buddy were able to just get up and move so it worked out and was a great show, but i feel for the guys who got stuck behind the camera, they were like numbers 1-10 on the reserve list to. | ||
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bLah.
Croatia497 Posts
second thing, casters. Don't have anything against ax/ax but in terms of fun they're just level below other casters in WCS. Even Kaelaris managed to have cool synergy with Tod so also that was good. Production is also pretty bad in wcs NA. imho WCS KR and EU should stay this way, both have their style which is pretty fun and cool, KR more professional with better games, EU more relaxed+home talent. WCS NA should have priority list: -remove random koreans -better casters (bitterdam or something) -new venue | ||
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Ace1123
Philippines1187 Posts
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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SCST
Mexico1609 Posts
On June 03 2013 09:33 ninjamyst wrote: Are you kidding? WCS NA biggest issue IS production. Compare the finals between WCS EU and WCS NA. EU was so much more fun. Don't blame it on the player pool. EG and TL had alot of popular players in the tournament. There were some good storyline before ro8 with Snute, Supply, and Moonglade. Agreed. Don't get me wrong, less Koreans in AM is something that absolutely needs to happen . . . but let's not try and use that as an excuse for a poor production. The WCS America Finals broadcast looked like it could have been a qualifier for Code B . . . in other words, it was not even remotely close to where it should have been. | ||
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hansonslee
United States2027 Posts
Korea is good as usual. BUT WCS AM is the one that needs a lot of improvement. Their approach seemed more like the MLG arena, which I think works well for the group stages and challenger league, but an inappropriate setup for finals. Also, the main casters should understand that this is NOT Rules of Engagement. I enjoyed Bitter/Rotti's cast way more than Alex/Ax's. Yes, analysis is very important when there are crucial moments but when there is downtime, come up with something interesting with the Tasteless approach of jokes or maybe come up with player trivia/background more often. In other words, AM needs to understand that eSports is part of the entertainment industry! Korea has excellent preparation and has the best players. Europe may not have the best, but the overall ambiance with great casters and personalities makes up for it. AM may not have the best players, but it should construct an image that viewer will definitely remember! Also, please fix the player roster for AM. Though I love Koreans playing, I would really like it, if I saw more AM players doing well! | ||
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Darkdwarf
Sweden960 Posts
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
NA were the ones with the least experience in such things and the least space Imo (might be wrong though heh), so they will catch up on what is nice and not, will probably take a few seasons though. But they have 2 models to copy ideas from. But they'll catchup I am sure of it. | ||
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Ry2D2
United States429 Posts
On June 03 2013 00:12 Rabiator wrote: ... KR: I have never really like the "clap aids" because they are basically throwaway resources ... which isnt very ecological + Show Spoiler + the tiny amount doesnt matter, because it symbolizes the "I dont care about our resources" nature of the thought process ... Dude you don't like Thundersticks? :o thundersticks are awesome! | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On June 03 2013 09:33 ninjamyst wrote: Are you kidding? WCS NA biggest issue IS production. Compare the finals between WCS EU and WCS NA. EU was so much more fun. Don't blame it on the player pool. EG and TL had alot of popular players in the tournament. There were some good storyline before ro8 with Snute, Supply, and Moonglade. Suppy and Scarlett where the only two players that kept me interested. Past the round of 16, all the players felt like a random invitational of code A/low-S Korean players. The idea of watching a tournament which features the same 14, 15 Koreans beating everyone else form NA, SEA, or China is frankly a boring product. The narrative is obvious, in the sense you can predict the final four players four out of five times. And besides, the point of having regional tournaments isn't to open up extra slots for Koreans to qualify for. It's to develop and support each region's esport scene. I would rather watch a real NA tournament, that answered the question: Who are the best players in NA? That's a narrative that's actually compelling. WCS NA is not that tournament. I don't think NA players should be entitled to easy wins or dumbed-down competition. But if this Blizzard and MLG's solution to expanding interest in SC2 and making it esport's sustainable in NA for the long term, it's a failure. And who cares if 'undeserving' NA players make it to the Global finals? That's the whole point of the Global finals, to separate the wheat from the chaff. I'd argue that improving competition and interest in each region is more important for the individual leagues, which means featuring and showcasing home-grown talent. | ||
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goody153
44020 Posts
EU was amazing . nuff said  but what is wrong with AM .. i watched it in the beginning it lacked hype compared to KR .. also the creativity from EU | ||
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A Wild Sosd
Australia421 Posts
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TAMinator
Australia2706 Posts
EU done very well, lots of good side content (didnt really like hubners part though) the only gripe is they need an actual crowd and venue for it to look like an event suited to the prize pool AM same problems as EU, needs a crowd and venue, addition of bitterdam helped a little, would be nice if they could put Day9, Husky and/or TB to add more hype, but I understand this is mainly an MLG broadcast meaning they'll stick to their own casters. | ||
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ratty
New Zealand275 Posts
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MadProbe
United States269 Posts
i watched a fair amount. but you get tired of any caster pair after listening to them for hours every day for weeks. i'd like to see more casters in wcs na and eu, even if they're on skype. and i'm sure axlav/axeltoss wouldn't mind a break or different co-caster now and then. there are a lot of casters we used to see at mlg's/nasl/iem that we don't see much of any more. i want more bitterdam, gretorp/frodan, tb+anyone, day9+husky, even that shamtoo guy. etc how great would it be to have even just ONE day casted by incontrol and idra? more caster variety is my only suggestion. otherwise they did great. i trust that obvious things (like the awful na qualifiers, incompetent admins, and the dumbass rule making two korean residents play their match on na) will be fixed in the future. | ||
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BlackPride
United States186 Posts
On June 03 2013 01:08 crbox wrote: Why? It's not really constructive if you just say you don't like something, without saying why you don't like it. Perhaps you should point out what bothers you in his cast and he can improve. I know a guy like that dislikes every caster that isn't Artosis or Tasteless, you might want perfection but these guys aren't exactly bad at casting I think they're doing a fantastic job. Honestly, I enjoy every single caster in this industry except for Axeltoss. I know Tasteless gets a lot of flak for not knowing much about the game, but i disagree, and at the VERY least he's hilarious. And i think part of the reason he seems like he doesn't know much is that he's constantly juxtaposed with Artosis. That would be rough. As for Axeltoss, often I am convinced he doesn't even play this game. The dude only can go play-by-play. All the constructive criticism I can give comes back to getting rid of axeltoss. That would make America so quality. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
edit: also having randomised seeding for the finals doesnt make any sense. Soulkey wins WCS korea then potentially gets thrown into a group with innovation, symbol and roro. If you're going to have less code S koreans at least spread them out so we have a decent ro8. | ||
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