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While not every CEO has spoken directly about this manner, pretty much every company offering group healthcare right now is cutting back hours for part time employees to no greater than 27 a week. From Home Depot to restaurant chains. It's just going to cost them too much money once health care reform rolls through in January, and since everyone is going to be able to qualify for it there isn't a reason for them to provide it.
On topic: I'm getting pizza tomorrow  for tl.net of course.
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On May 21 2013 13:00 Rainman5419 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 12:10 Alabasern wrote:
Order pizza for those of us who can't eat it because of lactose intolerance, and a low-salt diet! Having a lactose intolerant roomie I know you can order PJ pizza without cheese.
Now what about the important part, low salt? I dare say IMPOSSIBLE
EAT IT FOR ME< EAT ALL OF THE PIZZA YOU CAN
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I could care less about politics, and would like to support this initiative. Too bad the only Papa Johns in my town closed up shop not long ago.
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On May 21 2013 14:29 Slightly wrote:While not every CEO has spoken directly about this manner, pretty much every company offering group healthcare right now is cutting back hours for part time employees to no greater than 27 a week. From Home Depot to restaurant chains. It's just going to cost them too much money once health care reform rolls through in January, and since everyone is going to be able to qualify for it there isn't a reason for them to provide it. On topic: I'm getting pizza tomorrow for tl.net of course.
This is NOT a result of recent healthcare reforms. It's been a pretty consistent process in every sector of the U.S. economy that can make it work. Part time labor is MUCH cheaper than full time labor. Everything from college professors to pizza employees are being forced to 27 hours a week or less in order to deny them many kinds of benefits. And it's not because of new healthcare laws. That's just the most convenient current excuse for a long-term shift in the economy.
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On May 21 2013 14:30 Alabasern wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 13:00 Rainman5419 wrote:On May 21 2013 12:10 Alabasern wrote:
Order pizza for those of us who can't eat it because of lactose intolerance, and a low-salt diet! Having a lactose intolerant roomie I know you can order PJ pizza without cheese. Now what about the important part, low salt? I dare say IMPOSSIBLE EAT IT FOR ME< EAT ALL OF THE PIZZA YOU CAN
If you ordered no cheese, low sauce and topped it with veggies you could probably get a relatively low sodium result by pizza standards.
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On May 21 2013 14:29 Slightly wrote:While not every CEO has spoken directly about this manner, pretty much every company offering group healthcare right now is cutting back hours for part time employees to no greater than 27 a week. From Home Depot to restaurant chains. It's just going to cost them too much money once health care reform rolls through in January, and since everyone is going to be able to qualify for it there isn't a reason for them to provide it. On topic: I'm getting pizza tomorrow for tl.net of course.
From the 2nd link..
Papa John's total revenue for last year: $1.218 billion
Papa John's total operating costs for last year: $1.131 billion
Papa John's total profit = $1.218 billion - $1.131 billion = $87 million
Papa John's CEO estimate of the cost of Obamacare: $5-8 million
As you can see from the figures the cost of Obamacare is negligible and Papa John's is using it as a scapegoat to cut employee hours or to raise the price of pizza so that they can maintain the same margin of profitability. Regardless, this is a big moment for esports so I support the pizza promotion and will be ordering some myself
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How is ~7.5% of total profits a "negligible" cost? <.<
Anyways I somehow prefer this one 2 euro freezer pizza over all those 6-8 euro fresh pizzas so I of course woudn't order one, not like I eat pizza more often than ~1-2 times a month and neither should anyone else.
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Everyone pleaseee spread the word! Let the world know the power of esports! :D
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On May 21 2013 14:50 Shikyo wrote:
How is ~7.5% of total profits a "negligible" cost? <.<
Anyways I somehow prefer this one 2 euro freezer pizza over all those 6-8 euro fresh pizzas so I of course woudn't order one, not like I eat pizza more often than ~1-2 times a month and neither should anyone else.
Yea that's way more than negligible, though I'd like to think that "happier employees, better pizzas, Papa Johns."
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Boo that the code is no good in Canada. I would love to support those that support esports, and get a great deal on pizza.
Oh well, I'll have to settle for dominos or pizza hut
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On May 21 2013 14:42 hasuterrans wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 14:29 Slightly wrote:While not every CEO has spoken directly about this manner, pretty much every company offering group healthcare right now is cutting back hours for part time employees to no greater than 27 a week. From Home Depot to restaurant chains. It's just going to cost them too much money once health care reform rolls through in January, and since everyone is going to be able to qualify for it there isn't a reason for them to provide it. On topic: I'm getting pizza tomorrow for tl.net of course. From the 2nd link.. Papa John's total revenue for last year: $1.218 billion Papa John's total operating costs for last year: $1.131 billion Papa John's total profit = $1.218 billion - $1.131 billion = $87 million Papa John's CEO estimate of the cost of Obamacare: $5-8 million As you can see from the figures the cost of Obamacare is negligible and Papa John's is using it as a scapegoat to cut employee hours or to raise the price of pizza so that they can maintain the same margin of profitability. Regardless, this is a big moment for esports so I support the pizza promotion and will be ordering some myself
How is $5-8m of a $87m LOSS negligible (I'm assuming the figures you've used are correct)
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Is it not skewed in EGs favor? Look how many EG buttons there are compared to TL or ROOT on pizza.gg
On May 21 2013 15:15 Brett wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 14:42 hasuterrans wrote:On May 21 2013 14:29 Slightly wrote:While not every CEO has spoken directly about this manner, pretty much every company offering group healthcare right now is cutting back hours for part time employees to no greater than 27 a week. From Home Depot to restaurant chains. It's just going to cost them too much money once health care reform rolls through in January, and since everyone is going to be able to qualify for it there isn't a reason for them to provide it. On topic: I'm getting pizza tomorrow for tl.net of course. From the 2nd link.. Papa John's total revenue for last year: $1.218 billion Papa John's total operating costs for last year: $1.131 billion Papa John's total profit = $1.218 billion - $1.131 billion = $87 million Papa John's CEO estimate of the cost of Obamacare: $5-8 million As you can see from the figures the cost of Obamacare is negligible and Papa John's is using it as a scapegoat to cut employee hours or to raise the price of pizza so that they can maintain the same margin of profitability. Regardless, this is a big moment for esports so I support the pizza promotion and will be ordering some myself How is $5-8m of a $87m LOSS negligible (I'm assuming the figures you've used are correct)
Math must be upside down in AU too. 1.218 > 1.131. Its an 87 million profit
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On May 21 2013 05:59 nkr wrote:
Tier 8 please
EAT AMERICAN, EAT
finally something americans can do better than others!
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On May 21 2013 05:59 nkr wrote:
Tier 8 please
EAT AMERICAN, EAT
This is awful and hilarious.
So how long till this Papa Johns "esports meter" updates?
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Ohhhh, and I thought I'd accidentally followed PapaJohns on twitter..
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On May 21 2013 14:42 hasuterrans wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 14:29 Slightly wrote:While not every CEO has spoken directly about this manner, pretty much every company offering group healthcare right now is cutting back hours for part time employees to no greater than 27 a week. From Home Depot to restaurant chains. It's just going to cost them too much money once health care reform rolls through in January, and since everyone is going to be able to qualify for it there isn't a reason for them to provide it. On topic: I'm getting pizza tomorrow for tl.net of course. From the 2nd link.. Papa John's total revenue for last year: $1.218 billion Papa John's total operating costs for last year: $1.131 billion Papa John's total profit = $1.218 billion - $1.131 billion = $87 million Papa John's CEO estimate of the cost of Obamacare: $5-8 million As you can see from the figures the cost of Obamacare is negligible and Papa John's is using it as a scapegoat to cut employee hours or to raise the price of pizza so that they can maintain the same margin of profitability. Regardless, this is a big moment for esports so I support the pizza promotion and will be ordering some myself
Ummm... 5-10% of your gross profit is a big deal.
5-10% of your net profit is a much bigger deal.
Well I'm sure Mr. Schnatter along with a lot of other people are disappointed that the government (Obama) made a healthcare bill so shitty in particular that it had such a gaping loophole and so shitty in general that it made jumping through that loophole so attractive.
If providing the new Obamacare-mandated coverage to employees saved money like it was said it was going to, no one would be lowering hours. But of course it's not going to save money at all. And people are under no moral obligation to sit there and just accept an externally imposed cost on their business. They pass it on to the customer, or they lower spending somewhere else, or both. Easiest place to lower spending quick? Labor.
Honestly the ways of spending other people's money people come up with and think there will be no reaction to. You can't just spend (more of) other people's money and expect them to not try to do something to lessen the impact on themselves.
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On May 21 2013 14:35 MisterFred wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 14:29 Slightly wrote:While not every CEO has spoken directly about this manner, pretty much every company offering group healthcare right now is cutting back hours for part time employees to no greater than 27 a week. From Home Depot to restaurant chains. It's just going to cost them too much money once health care reform rolls through in January, and since everyone is going to be able to qualify for it there isn't a reason for them to provide it. On topic: I'm getting pizza tomorrow for tl.net of course. This is NOT a result of recent healthcare reforms. It's been a pretty consistent process in every sector of the U.S. economy that can make it work. Part time labor is MUCH cheaper than full time labor. Everything from college professors to pizza employees are being forced to 27 hours a week or less in order to deny them many kinds of benefits. And it's not because of new healthcare laws. That's just the most convenient current excuse for a long-term shift in the economy.
Good post, I'm not familiar with the economic side at all, I can only speak a little from the insurance side. I don't believe it is a direct result no, and I should have spoken better, but it is the excuse companies needed to cut hours. They spend less money hiring more employees on less than 27 hours than they would with fewer ones on more than 27. My point really is that in January, the premiums are going to shoot up for everyone including these companies and the more people they can wean off the health care plan they provide the less they'll have to spend on it. Do this by cutting hours, nobody is going to spend 60 a paycheck on healthcare if their paychecks are only in the ~240 range. They'll opt out during their open enrollment period and this will save the company money in more ways than one.
Disclaimer: I'm not an expert or anything, these are things I believe to be true and if anyone wants to point out how wrong I am that's cool I like learning things.
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