EPTIf your execution can follow what your mind want to do, then you're at the speed you need to be.
Does age matter in SC2 - Page 2
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
If your execution can follow what your mind want to do, then you're at the speed you need to be. | ||
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Hitch-22
Canada753 Posts
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[Erasmus]
Australia286 Posts
On May 17 2013 09:27 tuho12345 wrote: ofc it does, older means more things to care about in life and not just gaming. There are more interests and worries as well so you can't sit there and play for long. potentially true, but not necessarily. A lot of the younger people also have to do things like uni/school + homework/assignments and work part time. Just "being older" doesn't magically give you less time to play. There are lots of masters league players that don't play more than the OP. | ||
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Nachtwind
Germany1130 Posts
No training partner: Check amout of games per week/day: 25/~4 => low amount: Check don´t know what to do?: Check ehh... what was the problem again? ... | ||
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Rotodyne
United States2263 Posts
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
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Toons
Australia136 Posts
On May 17 2013 09:26 Godwrath wrote: It's not only time you put on practice, but in knowledge too. I don't know about you, but i am not capable of thinking as much as i did about games, min/maxing than a i did when i was younger, not because i am dumber/slower, but because i have many other things to take care of. Probably this is the most helpful post i've found in here, cheers, sums up what I mean. | ||
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Toons
Australia136 Posts
On May 17 2013 09:43 Integra wrote: I'm 33 years old, currently GM as Zerg. I've beaten other GM players with around 130 average APM and lost games vs Plat players with an average APM of 350 back when I was in plat league. I call bullshit on that the only reason you can't get out of diamond is because of your speed, most likely you just don't understand what you are doing. Cool, good to know players of my 'age' are higher. How many games per week do you play? EDIT: Maybe I am not being eloquent enough. I dont think it is primarily because of speed, but speed, linked with the ability to make the decisions? As you get older, my feeling is in sc2, you do one or the other, but at a slower rate? Younger players can achieve one or the other quicker, which then translates ing ame to a win? Thanks for the reponse though. | ||
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Sekijitsu
United States47 Posts
As for the statement that you lose games simply because the opponent executed their build faster, I feel that this is a gross oversimplification and perhaps part of the reason you've hit a bit of a plateau. I think you need to be honest with yourself in terms of why you give up and games and why you aren't making more progress. The reasons that one loses a game can be amazingly complicated or amazingly simple. I think simplifying things is good but not to the point where you neglect a real assessment of your strengths and weaknesses. Also, are you hitting worker benchmarks? I think pre-Masters that even low level masters players really need to focus on basic things like worker production and hitting certain benchmarks. Just my opinion really but I've found that making enough workers by certain times is the foundation upon which you can execute a build with greater efficiency. Just my 2 cents | ||
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NTTemplar
609 Posts
There are great pianists twice your age, three times as fast (and more controlled) than the majority of young (sub 20) pianists in the world. It is a matter of effort, not age. You can find plenty 60+ people who show speeds within their skill that exceed the majority of the younger population practicing that skill, be it martial arts or instruments. You say 25 games a week, while when I played more actively I had nearly three times that (10 games a day), on rare occassions I had 25+ games in a single day, having peaked at 50 games in a day just for fun a few times. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On May 17 2013 09:48 Toons wrote: Cool, good to know players of my 'age' are higher. How many games per week do you play? Enough games so I maintain my skill and that's about it. Total maybe 10 hours a week? It happens in spurs though, I might play all those 10 hours during a three day period and then don't touch the game for the rest of the week. Keep in mind this is only for me to keeping up with the current level I am at. You actually have, besides keeping up, also squeeze extra time in to actually become better, which is something you really don't have to deal with if you already reached the highest league and don't really want to compete for money and such. EDIT: this whole older makes it harder is from my experience just superstition, the primary reason is that people lose interest or wants to spend time doing other things which naturally leads to you becoming worse in the other activities you decided to dump in favour for other things. | ||
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Toons
Australia136 Posts
On May 17 2013 09:50 Sekijitsu wrote: I don't think that age matters in the same way that it does for pros. In fact with amateur players I think that older players can have a bit of an advantage in many regards simply because they might understand the principles better. There are also plenty reasons younger players might do better. I don't feel age has much bearing on your average players ability. As for the statement that you lose games simply because the opponent executed their build faster, I feel that this is a gross oversimplification and perhaps part of the reason you've hit a bit of a plateau. I think you need to be honest with yourself in terms of why you give up and games and why you aren't making more progress. The reasons that one loses a game can be amazingly complicated or amazingly simple. I think simplifying things is good but not to the point where you neglect a real assessment of your strengths and weaknesses. Also, are you hitting worker benchmarks? I think pre-Masters that even low level masters players really need to focus on basic things like worker production and hitting certain benchmarks. Just my opinion really but I've found that making enough workers by certain times is the foundation upon which you can execute a build with greater efficiency. Just my 2 cents Helpful POV, cheers. | ||
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Toons
Australia136 Posts
On May 17 2013 09:51 NTTemplar wrote: Simple answer, no. You simply don't put in the hard work to get as good, yes some of them may put in less work, but then just be naturally better at this than you. There are great pianists twice your age, three times as fast (and more controlled) than the majority of young (sub 20) pianists in the world. It is a matter of effort, not age. You can find plenty 60+ people who show speeds within their skill that exceed the majority of the younger population practicing that skill, be it martial arts or instruments. You say 25 games a week, while when I played more actively I had nearly three times that (10 games a day), on rare occassions I had 25+ games in a single day, having peaked at 50 games in a day just for fun a few times. Its probably more than that actually, at least recently, and hence sparked this post i guess. | ||
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Steelo_Rivers
United States1968 Posts
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skatblast
United States784 Posts
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
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Blargh
United States2103 Posts
If you just look at your replays and think "what would have been a better decision in this spot?" all throughout the replay, you will learn. Just keep doing that, as boring as it may be, and you'll improve more than you might think. Just don't half-ass it. Anyway, don't let age get you down. YOU GOTTA BELIEVE, M8. | ||
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Pierrot
Canada53 Posts
Someone earlier in the thread mentioned Silva, which I thought was a great example as well. There are lots of others too, from MMA, sports, music (the violinist Itzhak Perlman comes to mind), fighter pilots, formula 1 drivers, etc. Maybe you are just a 31 year old who is bad at a video game because at 31, you have different priorities in life. | ||
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Toons
Australia136 Posts
WTF?!? EDIT: Some good posts mixed with borderline passive aggressive shit from a few ppl, seriously. | ||
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MaestroSC
United States2073 Posts
Maybe at the very very very very very top, someone might argue for it. But in your case it literally has nothing to do with it, unless you are a 90 yr old man with parkinsons or arthritis or something. Even then its mostly just that if u play at 350 (actual 350 not SC2 350) apm eventually u will develop problems with ur wrists/hands which is what would happen to Progamers in BW but in 99.99999% of cases age has nothing to do with your skill (unless u want to go really deep into the rabbithole and argue that with age comes responsibilities comes less times comes less practice etc) | ||
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