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Been an awesome 2 yrs!Stephano to retire from SC2 in August to return to studies…
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SoniC_eu
Denmark1008 Posts
Been an awesome 2 yrs! | ||
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phodacbiet
United States1740 Posts
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On May 14 2013 12:21 sluggaslamoo wrote: While some parts I agree somewhat this is horribly misinformed. Nada and Boxer definitely have enough money to live the rest of their lives without work. Nada was earning more than $400,000 a year even when he was retired, and Boxer still earns money from sponsorship when he doesn't play because he is an iconic figure. Most of the retirees in BW still earned a lot of money after they retired, I guess its part of the retirement package due to short term careers, compared to the average wage earner in korea a successful progamer earns a lot more. League of Legends is hugely popular in korea, I don't know where you got the 5,000 from, I saw the Azubu vs Najin finals myself. Sometimes you saw crowds as big as the OSL and this is coming from someone who doesn't even follow LoL. Um, can anyone back this up? $400,000 a year after retirement seems like an absurd overestimation, but then again I don't know enough about Broodwar at it's peak to refute these kind of numbers. | ||
phiRa
United States35 Posts
With Stephano leaving soon and Idra gone, EG must have a lot of salary money freed up. I would really love them to use some of it to secure a permanent move for Jaedong to EG (he's still on loan, right?). Really looking forward to see what kind of moves EG does after these events. Jaedong, Suppy, and Revival, is still a very good zerg base to build upon. I'm just a little worried that maybe Suppy will take the same route Stephano is going and opt for studies>sc2. | ||
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Zeritas
Germany24 Posts
I wish him all the best for his future. He is and was the best foreigner at SC2 and one of the best players world wide. Maybe not a real Pro, but a kid with a god-blessed-talent when it came to SC2. Someone that nobody knew before SC2, and made a name within a short time in the Starcraft scene, because he was such a skilled player. A true Legend will leave a big hole when he leaves. I hope someone else can fill this hole in the future again. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On May 14 2013 13:13 Zeritas wrote: a kid with a god-blessed-talent when it came to SC2. Give credit where it's due  . His talent came from him. | ||
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Zeritas
Germany24 Posts
On May 14 2013 13:17 Djzapz wrote: Give credit where it's due . His talent came from him.I am an Agnostic. I think you know how i meant my sentence =) | ||
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CloudMage
Canada221 Posts
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twndomn
401 Posts
Huk and Naniwa did pretty well at their prime when they went deep into the GSL. That's something Stephano has not done. Yes, Stephano defeated foreigners in MLG or NASL, but his performance at BlizzCon and WCS Final are out-done by Sen. He's definitely up there, but don't forget other foreigners all the sudden. | ||
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DisillusionedAcronym
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On May 14 2013 05:50 Thor.Rush wrote: Best foreigners are Naniwa and Lucifron, and then others like SaSe. You are watching it throw blue-yellow glasses | ||
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cutler
Germany609 Posts
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SCST
Mexico1609 Posts
On May 14 2013 11:14 boxturtle wrote: I'm pretty sure having their live audiences shrunken by 90% and their TV viewers dwindling counts as suffering. E-sports is making less and paying out less in Korea. There's a reason why MBC shut down, there's a reason why Ace shut down, there's a reason why countless high-funding teams got shut down. There's absolutely no reason to open a new well funded team in Korea. Who's going to watch someone go out there and play stupid video games? There's just so much to be doing in Korea nowadays that only "losers" will go play video games. To illustrate how badly e-sports is doing in Korea, they seated 5,000 people for the biggest event last year, the LoL finals. That's 1/4th the amount of people at MLG Anaheim. That's not even a drop in the bucket compared to the old OSLs. Koreans are also much more social than Americans in general to begin with. PCbaangs have also changed. The majority of them are horrible and shitty, with extremely old computers. They used to be very nice for most of thing you wanted to do back in the day (some still are, but these are high end). PCbaangs aren't a place to socialize at anymore, it's a place where part-time culture or unemployed bums sleep while playing video games and ordering cheap noodles. It's stupid as hell to assume that e-sports is a viable career path for a young un unless they actually make what flash did. Heck even nada and boxer are broke. Even the best at any given e-sport will only be looking at a 6 figure salary for a couple years then retirement with little to no vocational skills and little education. Compare a run of the mill doctor or an engineer to the best progamer. Making even $350,000 for 3 years then making $15,000 a year is a lot worse than making $70-100k a year to begin with, then steadily rising even higher than $350,000 a year if you're actually good enough. Staying in e-sports for the long haul is a bad idea unless you're a businessman. First, you have no idea what pro's actually make financially. You're just pulling random numbers out of your ass so as to support your negative statements about the scene. You have no source to prove those numbers, and they seem completely whacked to me. Second, why the hell are you even here on TL when you have such a dim view on e-sports? Not only do you appear incredibly biased against the scene, but you're actually trying to convince us that this form of entertainment is dying? Third, your preachy statement regarding how "staying in e-sports for the long haul is a bad idea" is another baseless "fact" you pulled out of your ass. Nobody knows where e-sports is going . Suffice to say, projections from actual business people (not random posters on TL) shows that the industry is expanding rapidly, with massive profits to be made. Do you really think companies like MLG, Riot, Blizzard etc would invest so heavily if they didn't see huge potential for growth? I'll trust the growing viewership and real businessmen over your spiel any day. Fourth, when and if things turn out to be substantially more optimistic than your "analysis" of the scene, I have no doubt we'll see you posting on here saying that you "knew it all along". You just seem like that kind of forum poster.  | ||
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Csong
Canada396 Posts
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peter22
Belarus25 Posts
the sc2 scene is going to miss him | ||
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NexCa
Germany954 Posts
On May 14 2013 05:29 Kznn wrote: EG loosing both stephano and idra in such a small time frame will be pretty bad for them. IdrA isn't really a loss Good luck to Stephano in whatever he does | ||
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Kluey
Canada1197 Posts
On May 14 2013 05:29 JimmyJRaynor wrote: he realizes the over all prize money is going down hill. Smart exit by him. He makes tonnes of money every month, how is that smart? | ||
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strength
United States493 Posts
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Topdoller
United Kingdom3860 Posts
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Spermwahale
United States85 Posts
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