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Stephano to retire from SC2 in August to return to studies…

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Christ the Redeemer
Profile Joined May 2012
Brazil161 Posts
May 14 2013 02:07 GMT
#541
Sad day for EG.
But this is a good decision for Stephano, good GG timing.

GLHF, thanks for the memories.
var username
Profile Joined February 2011
52 Posts
May 14 2013 02:07 GMT
#542
On May 14 2013 10:41 M.theory wrote:
I knew this day was coming, but I'm still sad about it lol. Stephano is not only one of the best players in SC2, but he is also one of the best personalities. The dude is hilarious. Some people give him shit for being unprofessional or liking to party. Who gives a shit? He's literally in the infant years of young adulthood. Who didn't act like a jackass every now and again at that age?

GL Ilyes! It was awesome watching you!


What does the "pro" in "progamer" stand for?

That's right, "professional".

Double standards simply because he's a foreigner is not helping the scene.
Please adopt the party escort position.
diophan
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1018 Posts
May 14 2013 02:10 GMT
#543
Grats to Stephano for making a smart long-term decision.
KaiserKieran
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States615 Posts
May 14 2013 02:11 GMT
#544
I hope both EG and TL bring more new players within the year. It seems that with both teams have lost players. whether to injury or retirement. It seems like both of them have lost their competitive spirit, first with not really taking SPL seriously until halfway through the season, and then losing great players to injuries and lost motivation. I think that 2013 with the HOTS transition would've been a great transition to maybe create a TL academy (kind of like col and clarity) to get some new blood into their teams.

Alright back on topic. This is a perfect choice for Stephano and one I respect him for. If he puts education before starcraft that is fine by me. Even though he has had a rep as somewhat a party boy and rebel, I think that getting his priorities straight and learning in a new perspective would be great for him. On the other hand, I hope he does not entirely leave e-sports. Guest showings would be interesting.

I am pumped for the upcoming year!
EG~TL FIGHTING!!!
boxturtle
Profile Joined December 2011
United States224 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-14 02:17:49
May 14 2013 02:14 GMT
#545
On May 14 2013 10:33 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2013 10:14 ppshchik wrote:
On May 14 2013 10:03 DDie wrote:
I'm the only one annoyed that as soon as the easy money is gone he cashes out?


E-sports is a flop for players to waste their youth on on the wallets of sponsors. No way e-sports in the west is going to reach the scale of those of Korea (which its scene is also struggling as well),

Commentators like Artosis and Tasteless can sit there and tell everybody to support e-sports and SC2 because they can simply find other jobs in the broadcasting field once SC2 is gone, But what about the players? You'll always need a Plan B and Stephano is smart enough to have an exit strategy.


esports in korea is not suffering, sc2 is.


I'm pretty sure having their live audiences shrunken by 90% and their TV viewers dwindling counts as suffering. E-sports is making less and paying out less in Korea.

There's a reason why MBC shut down, there's a reason why Ace shut down, there's a reason why countless high-funding teams got shut down. There's absolutely no reason to open a new well funded team in Korea. Who's going to watch someone go out there and play stupid video games? There's just so much to be doing in Korea nowadays that only "losers" will go play video games.

To illustrate how badly e-sports is doing in Korea, they seated 5,000 people for the biggest event last year, the LoL finals. That's 1/4th the amount of people at MLG Anaheim. That's not even a drop in the bucket compared to the old OSLs.

Koreans are also much more social than Americans in general to begin with. PCbaangs have also changed. The majority of them are horrible and shitty, with extremely old computers. They used to be very nice for most of thing you wanted to do back in the day (some still are, but these are high end). PCbaangs aren't a place to socialize at anymore, it's a place where part-time culture or unemployed bums sleep while playing video games and ordering cheap noodles.

It's stupid as hell to assume that e-sports is a viable career path for a young un unless they actually make what flash did. Heck even nada and boxer are broke. Even the best at any given e-sport will only be looking at a 6 figure salary for a couple years then retirement with little to no vocational skills and little education.

Compare a run of the mill doctor or an engineer to the best progamer. Making even $350,000 for 3 years then making $15,000 a year is a lot worse than making $70-100k a year to begin with, then steadily rising even higher than $350,000 a year if you're actually good enough. Staying in e-sports for the long haul is a bad idea unless you're a businessman.
LeeDawg
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1306 Posts
May 14 2013 02:16 GMT
#546
he will be missed. does anyone know what he will be studying?
:-)
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
May 14 2013 02:19 GMT
#547
Awww. Well, ggyo.
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
May 14 2013 02:19 GMT
#548
Stephano is smart. Making a career in esports is a very difficult thing. He's never been one to want to be a caster after playing or something like that. He will be competitive up until he retires and will have made good money in the time being. He has the big picture in mind.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
jyuj
Profile Joined October 2007
Australia103 Posts
May 14 2013 02:20 GMT
#549
On May 14 2013 11:14 boxturtle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2013 10:33 rysecake wrote:
On May 14 2013 10:14 ppshchik wrote:
On May 14 2013 10:03 DDie wrote:
I'm the only one annoyed that as soon as the easy money is gone he cashes out?


E-sports is a flop for players to waste their youth on on the wallets of sponsors. No way e-sports in the west is going to reach the scale of those of Korea (which its scene is also struggling as well),

Commentators like Artosis and Tasteless can sit there and tell everybody to support e-sports and SC2 because they can simply find other jobs in the broadcasting field once SC2 is gone, But what about the players? You'll always need a Plan B and Stephano is smart enough to have an exit strategy.


esports in korea is not suffering, sc2 is.


I'm pretty sure having their live audiences shrunken by 90% and their TV viewers dwindling counts as suffering. E-sports is making less and paying out less in Korea.

There's a reason why MBC shut down, there's a reason why Ace shut down, there's a reason why countless high-funding teams got shut down. There's absolutely no reason to open a new well funded team in Korea. Who's going to watch someone go out there and play stupid video games? There's just so much to be doing in Korea nowadays that only "losers" will go play video games.

To illustrate how badly e-sports is doing in Korea, they seated 5,000 people for the biggest event last year, the LoL finals. That's 1/4th the amount of people at MLG Anaheim. That's not even a drop in the bucket compared to the old OSLs.

Koreans are also much more social than Americans in general to begin with. PCbaangs have also changed. The majority of them are horrible and shitty, with extremely old computers. They used to be very nice for most of thing you wanted to do back in the day (some still are, but these are high end). PCbaangs aren't a place to socialize at anymore, it's a place where part-time culture or unemployed bums sleep while playing video games and ordering cheap noodles.

It's stupid as hell to assume that e-sports is a viable career path for a young un unless they actually make what flash did. Heck even nada and boxer are broke. Even the best at any given e-sport will only be looking at a 6 figure salary for a couple years then retirement with little to no vocational skills and little education.

Compare a run of the mill doctor or an engineer to the best progamer. Making even $350,000 for 3 years then making $15,000 a year is a lot worse than making $70-100k a year to begin with, then steadily rising even higher than $350,000 a year if you're actually good enough. Staying in e-sports for the long haul is a bad idea unless you're a businessman.


How do you know that Nada and Boxer are broke?
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51650 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-14 02:24:41
May 14 2013 02:20 GMT
#550
On May 14 2013 11:14 boxturtle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2013 10:33 rysecake wrote:
On May 14 2013 10:14 ppshchik wrote:
On May 14 2013 10:03 DDie wrote:
I'm the only one annoyed that as soon as the easy money is gone he cashes out?


E-sports is a flop for players to waste their youth on on the wallets of sponsors. No way e-sports in the west is going to reach the scale of those of Korea (which its scene is also struggling as well),

Commentators like Artosis and Tasteless can sit there and tell everybody to support e-sports and SC2 because they can simply find other jobs in the broadcasting field once SC2 is gone, But what about the players? You'll always need a Plan B and Stephano is smart enough to have an exit strategy.


esports in korea is not suffering, sc2 is.


insert a bunch of dribble here


lol.

e-sports is fine in korea. you're just oblivious to the scene and have no idea what you're talking about.
when ongamenet starts charging for finals tickets for lol finals and still fills up the stadium, i don't see it dying anytime soon.
Commentator
onPHYRE
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria925 Posts
May 14 2013 02:21 GMT
#551
Sad to hear, he was by far my favorite foreigner. Hopefully DRG can get back to what he was before, and Life can continue owning face.
Livin' this life like it was written.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17692 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-14 02:23:03
May 14 2013 02:21 GMT
#552
On May 14 2013 10:14 ppshchik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2013 10:03 DDie wrote:
I'm the only one annoyed that as soon as the easy money is gone he cashes out?


E-sports is a flop for players to waste their youth on on the wallets of sponsors. No way e-sports in the west is going to reach the scale of those of Korea (which its scene is also struggling as well),

Commentators like Artosis and Tasteless can sit there and tell everybody to support e-sports and SC2 because they can simply find other jobs in the broadcasting field once SC2 is gone, But what about the players? You'll always need a Plan B and Stephano is smart enough to have an exit strategy.

+1.
i see the total prize pool available for SC2 players going no where but down.

if the growth rate in income for SC2 players were growing at the rate of say .... Pro Hockey in the 90s... he'd stick around...

good on Stephano for "cashing out".
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
May 14 2013 02:26 GMT
#553
On May 14 2013 11:14 boxturtle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2013 10:33 rysecake wrote:
On May 14 2013 10:14 ppshchik wrote:
On May 14 2013 10:03 DDie wrote:
I'm the only one annoyed that as soon as the easy money is gone he cashes out?


E-sports is a flop for players to waste their youth on on the wallets of sponsors. No way e-sports in the west is going to reach the scale of those of Korea (which its scene is also struggling as well),

Commentators like Artosis and Tasteless can sit there and tell everybody to support e-sports and SC2 because they can simply find other jobs in the broadcasting field once SC2 is gone, But what about the players? You'll always need a Plan B and Stephano is smart enough to have an exit strategy.


esports in korea is not suffering, sc2 is.


I'm pretty sure having their live audiences shrunken by 90% and their TV viewers dwindling counts as suffering. E-sports is making less and paying out less in Korea.

There's a reason why MBC shut down, there's a reason why Ace shut down, there's a reason why countless high-funding teams got shut down. There's absolutely no reason to open a new well funded team in Korea. Who's going to watch someone go out there and play stupid video games? There's just so much to be doing in Korea nowadays that only "losers" will go play video games.

To illustrate how badly e-sports is doing in Korea, they seated 5,000 people for the biggest event last year, the LoL finals. That's 1/4th the amount of people at MLG Anaheim. That's not even a drop in the bucket compared to the old OSLs.

Koreans are also much more social than Americans in general to begin with. PCbaangs have also changed. The majority of them are horrible and shitty, with extremely old computers. They used to be very nice for most of thing you wanted to do back in the day (some still are, but these are high end). PCbaangs aren't a place to socialize at anymore, it's a place where part-time culture or unemployed bums sleep while playing video games and ordering cheap noodles.

It's stupid as hell to assume that e-sports is a viable career path for a young un unless they actually make what flash did. Heck even nada and boxer are broke. Even the best at any given e-sport will only be looking at a 6 figure salary for a couple years then retirement with little to no vocational skills and little education.

Compare a run of the mill doctor or an engineer to the best progamer. Making even $350,000 for 3 years then making $15,000 a year is a lot worse than making $70-100k a year to begin with, then steadily rising even higher than $350,000 a year if you're actually good enough. Staying in e-sports for the long haul is a bad idea unless you're a businessman.

got any source or facts to back that up?
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
May 14 2013 02:28 GMT
#554
Not surprised but still sad news. I hope he can remember starcraft pleasantly instead of regretting, he showed us some great games in WoL. lol this is starting to sound like a eulogy, anyway good luck stephano
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
TJ31
Profile Joined October 2012
630 Posts
May 14 2013 02:29 GMT
#555
He could've waited with this annoucement 'till july or something. Not like it would've changed anything, but now we clearly know: Stephano will be just sitting at his ass and maybe streaming sometimes untill his contract with EG expires.
I'm not the biggest EG fan, more like the opposite, but this is kinda not nice and unprofessional. He always was like that though.
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
May 14 2013 02:31 GMT
#556
There is no med school

He said on stream that he was interested in physics / chemistry, and he thought he would go down the engineering road but he still hasn't set his mind yet.
Orange_BuD
Profile Joined March 2012
Afghanistan40 Posts
May 14 2013 02:32 GMT
#557
On May 14 2013 08:54 shin_toss wrote:
no more BL-Infestor eh?. Haha. Goodluck in the future!


Please don't embarass yourself , stephano was wining premier tournament with 2011 zerg... Way before this silly patchzerg thing , if there is one zerg who are not a patchzerg , it is stephano , dude invented so many different strategies in only 2 years...
Afgh>Kor>Eu>Us
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17692 Posts
May 14 2013 02:34 GMT
#558
On May 14 2013 08:05 heartagram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2013 08:04 jax1492 wrote:
On May 14 2013 07:55 creamyturtle wrote:
I must say what a loser. From day 1 Stephano was in it for the money. While everyone else loves sc2, Stephano was never compelled by the gameplay or enjoyed watching it. He didn't know other pro players names, and he's not involved in the scene. Stephano doesn't like to analyze his gameplay or talk about starcraft. He's a leech on the scene. Most pros would kill for a contract with EG and this dude could care less.

Stephano is just too cool for Starcraft

seriously, how many people go to work each day cause they love it? very few they do it for the money.

^ This
Work is slavery, simple as that. Passion never lasts.


umm no, with work you get paid money.
with slavery you do not.

everyone should aim to receive personal and spiritual fulfillment in their chosen profession.
the fact that few achieve this goal is sad. This does not mean adulthood should be the equivalent of "giving up".

Generally, those in a profession have a higher level of job satisfaction than those not in a profession.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
May 14 2013 02:35 GMT
#559
On May 14 2013 11:31 fezvez wrote:
There is no med school

He said on stream that he was interested in physics / chemistry, and he thought he would go down the engineering road but he still hasn't set his mind yet.

Then tbh he could probably keep winning shit while studying :D
Or "studying", if you know what I'm saying.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-14 02:35:58
May 14 2013 02:35 GMT
#560
On May 14 2013 11:16 LeeDawg wrote:
he will be missed. does anyone know what he will be studying?

he said math or engineering on stream. Guess wait and see what he decides? lol
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
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