But this is a good decision for Stephano, good GG timing.
GLHF, thanks for the memories.
Forum Index > SC2 General |
![]()
Christ the Redeemer
Brazil161 Posts
But this is a good decision for Stephano, good GG timing. GLHF, thanks for the memories. | ||
var username
52 Posts
On May 14 2013 10:41 M.theory wrote: I knew this day was coming, but I'm still sad about it lol. Stephano is not only one of the best players in SC2, but he is also one of the best personalities. The dude is hilarious. Some people give him shit for being unprofessional or liking to party. Who gives a shit? He's literally in the infant years of young adulthood. Who didn't act like a jackass every now and again at that age? GL Ilyes! It was awesome watching you! What does the "pro" in "progamer" stand for? That's right, "professional". Double standards simply because he's a foreigner is not helping the scene. | ||
diophan
United States1018 Posts
| ||
KaiserKieran
United States615 Posts
Alright back on topic. This is a perfect choice for Stephano and one I respect him for. If he puts education before starcraft that is fine by me. Even though he has had a rep as somewhat a party boy and rebel, I think that getting his priorities straight and learning in a new perspective would be great for him. On the other hand, I hope he does not entirely leave e-sports. Guest showings would be interesting. I am pumped for the upcoming year! EG~TL FIGHTING!!! | ||
boxturtle
United States224 Posts
On May 14 2013 10:33 rysecake wrote: Show nested quote + On May 14 2013 10:14 ppshchik wrote: On May 14 2013 10:03 DDie wrote: I'm the only one annoyed that as soon as the easy money is gone he cashes out? E-sports is a flop for players to waste their youth on on the wallets of sponsors. No way e-sports in the west is going to reach the scale of those of Korea (which its scene is also struggling as well), Commentators like Artosis and Tasteless can sit there and tell everybody to support e-sports and SC2 because they can simply find other jobs in the broadcasting field once SC2 is gone, But what about the players? You'll always need a Plan B and Stephano is smart enough to have an exit strategy. esports in korea is not suffering, sc2 is. I'm pretty sure having their live audiences shrunken by 90% and their TV viewers dwindling counts as suffering. E-sports is making less and paying out less in Korea. There's a reason why MBC shut down, there's a reason why Ace shut down, there's a reason why countless high-funding teams got shut down. There's absolutely no reason to open a new well funded team in Korea. Who's going to watch someone go out there and play stupid video games? There's just so much to be doing in Korea nowadays that only "losers" will go play video games. To illustrate how badly e-sports is doing in Korea, they seated 5,000 people for the biggest event last year, the LoL finals. That's 1/4th the amount of people at MLG Anaheim. That's not even a drop in the bucket compared to the old OSLs. Koreans are also much more social than Americans in general to begin with. PCbaangs have also changed. The majority of them are horrible and shitty, with extremely old computers. They used to be very nice for most of thing you wanted to do back in the day (some still are, but these are high end). PCbaangs aren't a place to socialize at anymore, it's a place where part-time culture or unemployed bums sleep while playing video games and ordering cheap noodles. It's stupid as hell to assume that e-sports is a viable career path for a young un unless they actually make what flash did. Heck even nada and boxer are broke. Even the best at any given e-sport will only be looking at a 6 figure salary for a couple years then retirement with little to no vocational skills and little education. Compare a run of the mill doctor or an engineer to the best progamer. Making even $350,000 for 3 years then making $15,000 a year is a lot worse than making $70-100k a year to begin with, then steadily rising even higher than $350,000 a year if you're actually good enough. Staying in e-sports for the long haul is a bad idea unless you're a businessman. | ||
LeeDawg
United States1306 Posts
| ||
kochanfe
Micronesia1338 Posts
| ||
jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
| ||
jyuj
Australia103 Posts
On May 14 2013 11:14 boxturtle wrote: Show nested quote + On May 14 2013 10:33 rysecake wrote: On May 14 2013 10:14 ppshchik wrote: On May 14 2013 10:03 DDie wrote: I'm the only one annoyed that as soon as the easy money is gone he cashes out? E-sports is a flop for players to waste their youth on on the wallets of sponsors. No way e-sports in the west is going to reach the scale of those of Korea (which its scene is also struggling as well), Commentators like Artosis and Tasteless can sit there and tell everybody to support e-sports and SC2 because they can simply find other jobs in the broadcasting field once SC2 is gone, But what about the players? You'll always need a Plan B and Stephano is smart enough to have an exit strategy. esports in korea is not suffering, sc2 is. I'm pretty sure having their live audiences shrunken by 90% and their TV viewers dwindling counts as suffering. E-sports is making less and paying out less in Korea. There's a reason why MBC shut down, there's a reason why Ace shut down, there's a reason why countless high-funding teams got shut down. There's absolutely no reason to open a new well funded team in Korea. Who's going to watch someone go out there and play stupid video games? There's just so much to be doing in Korea nowadays that only "losers" will go play video games. To illustrate how badly e-sports is doing in Korea, they seated 5,000 people for the biggest event last year, the LoL finals. That's 1/4th the amount of people at MLG Anaheim. That's not even a drop in the bucket compared to the old OSLs. Koreans are also much more social than Americans in general to begin with. PCbaangs have also changed. The majority of them are horrible and shitty, with extremely old computers. They used to be very nice for most of thing you wanted to do back in the day (some still are, but these are high end). PCbaangs aren't a place to socialize at anymore, it's a place where part-time culture or unemployed bums sleep while playing video games and ordering cheap noodles. It's stupid as hell to assume that e-sports is a viable career path for a young un unless they actually make what flash did. Heck even nada and boxer are broke. Even the best at any given e-sport will only be looking at a 6 figure salary for a couple years then retirement with little to no vocational skills and little education. Compare a run of the mill doctor or an engineer to the best progamer. Making even $350,000 for 3 years then making $15,000 a year is a lot worse than making $70-100k a year to begin with, then steadily rising even higher than $350,000 a year if you're actually good enough. Staying in e-sports for the long haul is a bad idea unless you're a businessman. How do you know that Nada and Boxer are broke? | ||
![]()
GTR
51453 Posts
On May 14 2013 11:14 boxturtle wrote: Show nested quote + On May 14 2013 10:33 rysecake wrote: On May 14 2013 10:14 ppshchik wrote: On May 14 2013 10:03 DDie wrote: I'm the only one annoyed that as soon as the easy money is gone he cashes out? E-sports is a flop for players to waste their youth on on the wallets of sponsors. No way e-sports in the west is going to reach the scale of those of Korea (which its scene is also struggling as well), Commentators like Artosis and Tasteless can sit there and tell everybody to support e-sports and SC2 because they can simply find other jobs in the broadcasting field once SC2 is gone, But what about the players? You'll always need a Plan B and Stephano is smart enough to have an exit strategy. esports in korea is not suffering, sc2 is. insert a bunch of dribble here lol. e-sports is fine in korea. you're just oblivious to the scene and have no idea what you're talking about. when ongamenet starts charging for finals tickets for lol finals and still fills up the stadium, i don't see it dying anytime soon. | ||
onPHYRE
Bulgaria923 Posts
| ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada16710 Posts
On May 14 2013 10:14 ppshchik wrote: Show nested quote + On May 14 2013 10:03 DDie wrote: I'm the only one annoyed that as soon as the easy money is gone he cashes out? E-sports is a flop for players to waste their youth on on the wallets of sponsors. No way e-sports in the west is going to reach the scale of those of Korea (which its scene is also struggling as well), Commentators like Artosis and Tasteless can sit there and tell everybody to support e-sports and SC2 because they can simply find other jobs in the broadcasting field once SC2 is gone, But what about the players? You'll always need a Plan B and Stephano is smart enough to have an exit strategy. +1. i see the total prize pool available for SC2 players going no where but down. if the growth rate in income for SC2 players were growing at the rate of say .... Pro Hockey in the 90s... he'd stick around... good on Stephano for "cashing out". | ||
tuho12345
4482 Posts
On May 14 2013 11:14 boxturtle wrote: Show nested quote + On May 14 2013 10:33 rysecake wrote: On May 14 2013 10:14 ppshchik wrote: On May 14 2013 10:03 DDie wrote: I'm the only one annoyed that as soon as the easy money is gone he cashes out? E-sports is a flop for players to waste their youth on on the wallets of sponsors. No way e-sports in the west is going to reach the scale of those of Korea (which its scene is also struggling as well), Commentators like Artosis and Tasteless can sit there and tell everybody to support e-sports and SC2 because they can simply find other jobs in the broadcasting field once SC2 is gone, But what about the players? You'll always need a Plan B and Stephano is smart enough to have an exit strategy. esports in korea is not suffering, sc2 is. I'm pretty sure having their live audiences shrunken by 90% and their TV viewers dwindling counts as suffering. E-sports is making less and paying out less in Korea. There's a reason why MBC shut down, there's a reason why Ace shut down, there's a reason why countless high-funding teams got shut down. There's absolutely no reason to open a new well funded team in Korea. Who's going to watch someone go out there and play stupid video games? There's just so much to be doing in Korea nowadays that only "losers" will go play video games. To illustrate how badly e-sports is doing in Korea, they seated 5,000 people for the biggest event last year, the LoL finals. That's 1/4th the amount of people at MLG Anaheim. That's not even a drop in the bucket compared to the old OSLs. Koreans are also much more social than Americans in general to begin with. PCbaangs have also changed. The majority of them are horrible and shitty, with extremely old computers. They used to be very nice for most of thing you wanted to do back in the day (some still are, but these are high end). PCbaangs aren't a place to socialize at anymore, it's a place where part-time culture or unemployed bums sleep while playing video games and ordering cheap noodles. It's stupid as hell to assume that e-sports is a viable career path for a young un unless they actually make what flash did. Heck even nada and boxer are broke. Even the best at any given e-sport will only be looking at a 6 figure salary for a couple years then retirement with little to no vocational skills and little education. Compare a run of the mill doctor or an engineer to the best progamer. Making even $350,000 for 3 years then making $15,000 a year is a lot worse than making $70-100k a year to begin with, then steadily rising even higher than $350,000 a year if you're actually good enough. Staying in e-sports for the long haul is a bad idea unless you're a businessman. got any source or facts to back that up? | ||
Confuse
2238 Posts
| ||
TJ31
630 Posts
I'm not the biggest EG fan, more like the opposite, but this is kinda not nice and unprofessional. He always was like that though. | ||
fezvez
France3021 Posts
He said on stream that he was interested in physics / chemistry, and he thought he would go down the engineering road but he still hasn't set his mind yet. | ||
Orange_BuD
Afghanistan40 Posts
On May 14 2013 08:54 shin_toss wrote: no more BL-Infestor eh?. Haha. Goodluck in the future! Please don't embarass yourself , stephano was wining premier tournament with 2011 zerg... Way before this silly patchzerg thing , if there is one zerg who are not a patchzerg , it is stephano , dude invented so many different strategies in only 2 years... | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada16710 Posts
On May 14 2013 08:05 heartagram wrote: Show nested quote + On May 14 2013 08:04 jax1492 wrote: On May 14 2013 07:55 creamyturtle wrote: I must say what a loser. From day 1 Stephano was in it for the money. While everyone else loves sc2, Stephano was never compelled by the gameplay or enjoyed watching it. He didn't know other pro players names, and he's not involved in the scene. Stephano doesn't like to analyze his gameplay or talk about starcraft. He's a leech on the scene. Most pros would kill for a contract with EG and this dude could care less. Stephano is just too cool for Starcraft seriously, how many people go to work each day cause they love it? very few they do it for the money. ^ This Work is slavery, simple as that. Passion never lasts. umm no, with work you get paid money. with slavery you do not. everyone should aim to receive personal and spiritual fulfillment in their chosen profession. the fact that few achieve this goal is sad. This does not mean adulthood should be the equivalent of "giving up". Generally, those in a profession have a higher level of job satisfaction than those not in a profession. | ||
ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On May 14 2013 11:31 fezvez wrote: There is no med school He said on stream that he was interested in physics / chemistry, and he thought he would go down the engineering road but he still hasn't set his mind yet. Then tbh he could probably keep winning shit while studying :D Or "studying", if you know what I'm saying. | ||
![]()
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On May 14 2013 11:16 LeeDawg wrote: he will be missed. does anyone know what he will be studying? he said math or engineering on stream. Guess wait and see what he decides? lol | ||
| ||
![]() StarCraft 2 StarCraft: Brood War Calm Stormgate![]() Rain ![]() Bisu ![]() Shuttle ![]() Flash ![]() Horang2 ![]() EffOrt ![]() firebathero ![]() ggaemo ![]() Mini ![]() [ Show more ] Dota 2 League of Legends Counter-Strike Super Smash Bros Other Games Organizations |
PiGosaur Monday
WardiTV Summer Champion…
Stormgate Nexus
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
The PondCast
WardiTV Summer Champion…
Replay Cast
LiuLi Cup
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
RSL Revival
[ Show More ] RSL Revival
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
CSO Cup
Sparkling Tuna Cup
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
Wardi Open
RotterdaM Event
RSL Revival
|
|