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SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
May 10 2013 06:37 GMT
#2381
On May 10 2013 15:32 ixi.genocide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 15:19 SCST wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:17 sekritzzz wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:11 Lokerek wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:07 Talin wrote:
Recruit one of the most talented and THE hardest working foreign player that ever played the game. Enable and encourage the worst of his habits to make your (irrelevant at the time) SC2 division hyper popular in the next 1-2 years by deliberately building up and feeding off the negativity in his image, even when it was obvious it was destroying his best qualities as a player.

Then, when you realize you don't need him anymore, fire him for saying something that is genuinely true and not really offensive at all.

Well color me surprised.



Here come the fanboys...
I hate Naniwa but to say Idra is hardest working player is a joke and insult to what Naniwa and other foreigner show.
I'd say EG was way too lenient and should have done it earlier.

Forgot about talented part. His success was mostly based on mechanics since the 14p 15h build he did was so predictable it was called Idra Build for a reason.

Here come the goldfish......

Some people have memories longer than 1 year you know. Idra used to be one of the most hardworking people. I actually dislike idra's personality and think he balances whines too much for his race but what he stated there is absolutely true and ruined a large part of the western SC2 scene for me. People aren't paid to be good, they are paid to be entertainers because that's exactly what most of the community seeks. As sad as that is, that is how the Sc2 community is.


Lmao since when do we know that goldfish have memories less than 1 year? Do you study or have extensive knowledge of goldfishes? LOLing hard at your choice of an introduction.

And why the hell would you assume that anyone would understand that analogy? lol


The memory of a goldfish is about 60 days. There have been studies on it, (not sure who gets a grant for that but w/e). As far as his analogy goes it's fairly poor though.


Jesus you're telling me that somebody actually studies the memory-span of goldfishes? What's this world coming to . . . LOL
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
party141994
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada4 Posts
May 10 2013 06:38 GMT
#2382
I was starting to think that part of the reason you did keep him so long was that him being rude attracted viewers
A marine walks into a bar... there is no counter
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
May 10 2013 06:39 GMT
#2383
On May 10 2013 15:36 Mothra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 15:31 ROOTFayth wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:27 Mothra wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:22 ROOTFayth wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:14 Talin wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:12 ROOTFayth wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:07 Talin wrote:
Recruit one of the most talented and THE hardest working foreign player that ever played the game. Enable and encourage the worst of his habits to make your (irrelevant at the time) SC2 division hyper popular in the next 1-2 years by deliberately building up and feeding off the negativity in his image, even when it was obvious it was destroying his best qualities as a player.

Then, when you realize you don't need him anymore, fire him for saying something that is genuinely true and not really offensive at all.

Well color me surprised.

not to take anything off of idra's work ethic cuz he seemed to do decent but I don't think he was THE hardest working foreign player... just had to look at Kas for that, always had easily over 2000 games every ladder season


I was talking 2009-2010 here, not sure Kas was even active back then (could be wrong though).

During his time on CJ and immediately before EG I'm pretty sure Idra was the hardest working western player. That is the player they signed at the time.

the beta came out in february 2010, not sure why you bring up 2009 o_o


Before SC2, Idra moved over to Korea to live in the CJ Entus pro gamer house. Despite not getting much results, he stuck with it for quite awhile and was the only foreigner to do something like that (at least at that time, I know some others did before). That really took a lot of guts and dedication to the game.

there were very few who were willing to do that, the risk/reward was just way too bad to even consider imo... I'm sure he doesn't regret doing that but I think he would have achieved just as much in SC2 even if he didn't go to korea prior to that


Well my point is that he truly loved the game and held himself to a high standard (in terms of play, not personality lol). That is more than can be said of the waves of people who have swooped in to make money and careers off of SC2. Idra actually sacrificed and broke new waters by going to live full time in a 100% Korean pro house. People forget what he put in and what he gave up for the game.


None of that matters when A) You shit on the community B) You don't have any results. Nobody cares how hard you worked towards something if you failed. They just say you should've worked harder. It's probably not fair but it is what it is. At the end of the day these teams need not only results but players that don't completely disrespect the community that's giving them money.
welcomerain
Profile Joined August 2010
United States7 Posts
May 10 2013 06:39 GMT
#2384
More and more GSL Koreans integrated into their team.

Idra no longer needed.

Alex becomes inconsistent and rationalizes a means to rid idrA, who is also not producing results as a well-compensated member.

...

Profit.

At least idrA was consistently bad.
tao is just tao, don't drag it right, left, wrong.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
May 10 2013 06:39 GMT
#2385
On May 10 2013 15:37 SCST wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 15:32 ixi.genocide wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:19 SCST wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:17 sekritzzz wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:11 Lokerek wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:07 Talin wrote:
Recruit one of the most talented and THE hardest working foreign player that ever played the game. Enable and encourage the worst of his habits to make your (irrelevant at the time) SC2 division hyper popular in the next 1-2 years by deliberately building up and feeding off the negativity in his image, even when it was obvious it was destroying his best qualities as a player.

Then, when you realize you don't need him anymore, fire him for saying something that is genuinely true and not really offensive at all.

Well color me surprised.



Here come the fanboys...
I hate Naniwa but to say Idra is hardest working player is a joke and insult to what Naniwa and other foreigner show.
I'd say EG was way too lenient and should have done it earlier.

Forgot about talented part. His success was mostly based on mechanics since the 14p 15h build he did was so predictable it was called Idra Build for a reason.

Here come the goldfish......

Some people have memories longer than 1 year you know. Idra used to be one of the most hardworking people. I actually dislike idra's personality and think he balances whines too much for his race but what he stated there is absolutely true and ruined a large part of the western SC2 scene for me. People aren't paid to be good, they are paid to be entertainers because that's exactly what most of the community seeks. As sad as that is, that is how the Sc2 community is.


Lmao since when do we know that goldfish have memories less than 1 year? Do you study or have extensive knowledge of goldfishes? LOLing hard at your choice of an introduction.

And why the hell would you assume that anyone would understand that analogy? lol


The memory of a goldfish is about 60 days. There have been studies on it, (not sure who gets a grant for that but w/e). As far as his analogy goes it's fairly poor though.


Jesus you're telling me that somebody actually studies the memory-span of goldfishes? What's this world coming to . . . LOL


Science that studies what is seemingly trivial has revealed some of the most important discoveries and advances in society.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
May 10 2013 06:39 GMT
#2386
On May 10 2013 15:37 SCST wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 15:32 ixi.genocide wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:19 SCST wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:17 sekritzzz wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:11 Lokerek wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:07 Talin wrote:
Recruit one of the most talented and THE hardest working foreign player that ever played the game. Enable and encourage the worst of his habits to make your (irrelevant at the time) SC2 division hyper popular in the next 1-2 years by deliberately building up and feeding off the negativity in his image, even when it was obvious it was destroying his best qualities as a player.

Then, when you realize you don't need him anymore, fire him for saying something that is genuinely true and not really offensive at all.

Well color me surprised.



Here come the fanboys...
I hate Naniwa but to say Idra is hardest working player is a joke and insult to what Naniwa and other foreigner show.
I'd say EG was way too lenient and should have done it earlier.

Forgot about talented part. His success was mostly based on mechanics since the 14p 15h build he did was so predictable it was called Idra Build for a reason.

Here come the goldfish......

Some people have memories longer than 1 year you know. Idra used to be one of the most hardworking people. I actually dislike idra's personality and think he balances whines too much for his race but what he stated there is absolutely true and ruined a large part of the western SC2 scene for me. People aren't paid to be good, they are paid to be entertainers because that's exactly what most of the community seeks. As sad as that is, that is how the Sc2 community is.


Lmao since when do we know that goldfish have memories less than 1 year? Do you study or have extensive knowledge of goldfishes? LOLing hard at your choice of an introduction.

And why the hell would you assume that anyone would understand that analogy? lol


The memory of a goldfish is about 60 days. There have been studies on it, (not sure who gets a grant for that but w/e). As far as his analogy goes it's fairly poor though.


Jesus you're telling me that somebody actually studies the memory-span of goldfishes? What's this world coming to . . . LOL
"memory of a goldfish" is pretty common in the USA at least. an urban legend is that they have a memory of 3 seconds.
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SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 06:42:12
May 10 2013 06:40 GMT
#2387
On May 10 2013 15:39 DamageControL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 15:37 SCST wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:32 ixi.genocide wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:19 SCST wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:17 sekritzzz wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:11 Lokerek wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:07 Talin wrote:
Recruit one of the most talented and THE hardest working foreign player that ever played the game. Enable and encourage the worst of his habits to make your (irrelevant at the time) SC2 division hyper popular in the next 1-2 years by deliberately building up and feeding off the negativity in his image, even when it was obvious it was destroying his best qualities as a player.

Then, when you realize you don't need him anymore, fire him for saying something that is genuinely true and not really offensive at all.

Well color me surprised.



Here come the fanboys...
I hate Naniwa but to say Idra is hardest working player is a joke and insult to what Naniwa and other foreigner show.
I'd say EG was way too lenient and should have done it earlier.

Forgot about talented part. His success was mostly based on mechanics since the 14p 15h build he did was so predictable it was called Idra Build for a reason.

Here come the goldfish......

Some people have memories longer than 1 year you know. Idra used to be one of the most hardworking people. I actually dislike idra's personality and think he balances whines too much for his race but what he stated there is absolutely true and ruined a large part of the western SC2 scene for me. People aren't paid to be good, they are paid to be entertainers because that's exactly what most of the community seeks. As sad as that is, that is how the Sc2 community is.


Lmao since when do we know that goldfish have memories less than 1 year? Do you study or have extensive knowledge of goldfishes? LOLing hard at your choice of an introduction.

And why the hell would you assume that anyone would understand that analogy? lol


The memory of a goldfish is about 60 days. There have been studies on it, (not sure who gets a grant for that but w/e). As far as his analogy goes it's fairly poor though.


Jesus you're telling me that somebody actually studies the memory-span of goldfishes? What's this world coming to . . . LOL
"memory of a goldfish" is pretty common in the USA at least. an urban legend is that they have a memory of 3 seconds.


How could I possibly have missed this urban legend living in the U.S. for 23 years? LOL the things you find out randomly on forums.
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
May 10 2013 06:41 GMT
#2388
On May 10 2013 15:32 ROOTFayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 15:29 Talin wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:22 ROOTFayth wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:14 Talin wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:12 ROOTFayth wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:07 Talin wrote:
Recruit one of the most talented and THE hardest working foreign player that ever played the game. Enable and encourage the worst of his habits to make your (irrelevant at the time) SC2 division hyper popular in the next 1-2 years by deliberately building up and feeding off the negativity in his image, even when it was obvious it was destroying his best qualities as a player.

Then, when you realize you don't need him anymore, fire him for saying something that is genuinely true and not really offensive at all.

Well color me surprised.

not to take anything off of idra's work ethic cuz he seemed to do decent but I don't think he was THE hardest working foreign player... just had to look at Kas for that, always had easily over 2000 games every ladder season


I was talking 2009-2010 here, not sure Kas was even active back then (could be wrong though).

During his time on CJ and immediately before EG I'm pretty sure Idra was the hardest working western player. That is the player they signed at the time.

the beta came out in february 2010, not sure why you bring up 2009 o_o


We were talking about character traits, not a specific game.

well then so was I when i brought up Kas


I'm not disagreeing with that in the slightest, but I don't see how it's relevant to the original course of discussion.

I never said Idra was the hardest working foreigner of all time, but at the point in time he got signed by EG, he probably was and has been for a while (as well as being most accomplished in terms of performance/results).
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
May 10 2013 06:43 GMT
#2389
On May 10 2013 15:37 SCST wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 15:32 ixi.genocide wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:19 SCST wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:17 sekritzzz wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:11 Lokerek wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:07 Talin wrote:
Recruit one of the most talented and THE hardest working foreign player that ever played the game. Enable and encourage the worst of his habits to make your (irrelevant at the time) SC2 division hyper popular in the next 1-2 years by deliberately building up and feeding off the negativity in his image, even when it was obvious it was destroying his best qualities as a player.

Then, when you realize you don't need him anymore, fire him for saying something that is genuinely true and not really offensive at all.

Well color me surprised.



Here come the fanboys...
I hate Naniwa but to say Idra is hardest working player is a joke and insult to what Naniwa and other foreigner show.
I'd say EG was way too lenient and should have done it earlier.

Forgot about talented part. His success was mostly based on mechanics since the 14p 15h build he did was so predictable it was called Idra Build for a reason.

Here come the goldfish......

Some people have memories longer than 1 year you know. Idra used to be one of the most hardworking people. I actually dislike idra's personality and think he balances whines too much for his race but what he stated there is absolutely true and ruined a large part of the western SC2 scene for me. People aren't paid to be good, they are paid to be entertainers because that's exactly what most of the community seeks. As sad as that is, that is how the Sc2 community is.


Lmao since when do we know that goldfish have memories less than 1 year? Do you study or have extensive knowledge of goldfishes? LOLing hard at your choice of an introduction.

And why the hell would you assume that anyone would understand that analogy? lol


The memory of a goldfish is about 60 days. There have been studies on it, (not sure who gets a grant for that but w/e). As far as his analogy goes it's fairly poor though.


Jesus you're telling me that somebody actually studies the memory-span of goldfishes? What's this world coming to . . . LOL

Lol, you must not know about this thing called "research", young man.
Flowsick
Profile Joined June 2011
Estonia234 Posts
May 10 2013 06:45 GMT
#2390
Finally they react on Idra's behaviour. Honestly I can't say I'm too surprised.
Mothra
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 06:53:22
May 10 2013 06:45 GMT
#2391
On May 10 2013 15:39 Infernal_dream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 15:36 Mothra wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:31 ROOTFayth wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:27 Mothra wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:22 ROOTFayth wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:14 Talin wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:12 ROOTFayth wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:07 Talin wrote:
Recruit one of the most talented and THE hardest working foreign player that ever played the game. Enable and encourage the worst of his habits to make your (irrelevant at the time) SC2 division hyper popular in the next 1-2 years by deliberately building up and feeding off the negativity in his image, even when it was obvious it was destroying his best qualities as a player.

Then, when you realize you don't need him anymore, fire him for saying something that is genuinely true and not really offensive at all.

Well color me surprised.

not to take anything off of idra's work ethic cuz he seemed to do decent but I don't think he was THE hardest working foreign player... just had to look at Kas for that, always had easily over 2000 games every ladder season


I was talking 2009-2010 here, not sure Kas was even active back then (could be wrong though).

During his time on CJ and immediately before EG I'm pretty sure Idra was the hardest working western player. That is the player they signed at the time.

the beta came out in february 2010, not sure why you bring up 2009 o_o


Before SC2, Idra moved over to Korea to live in the CJ Entus pro gamer house. Despite not getting much results, he stuck with it for quite awhile and was the only foreigner to do something like that (at least at that time, I know some others did before). That really took a lot of guts and dedication to the game.

there were very few who were willing to do that, the risk/reward was just way too bad to even consider imo... I'm sure he doesn't regret doing that but I think he would have achieved just as much in SC2 even if he didn't go to korea prior to that


Well my point is that he truly loved the game and held himself to a high standard (in terms of play, not personality lol). That is more than can be said of the waves of people who have swooped in to make money and careers off of SC2. Idra actually sacrificed and broke new waters by going to live full time in a 100% Korean pro house. People forget what he put in and what he gave up for the game.


None of that matters when A) You shit on the community B) You don't have any results. Nobody cares how hard you worked towards something if you failed. They just say you should've worked harder. It's probably not fair but it is what it is. At the end of the day these teams need not only results but players that don't completely disrespect the community that's giving them money.


There was a time when it wasn't about the money. Don't get me wrong, I never liked his personality, but if there was ever anyone who exemplified a pure love of the game, I would certainly say Idra did. When he went to Korea he was almost guaranteed to fail because Koreans were just that much better than foreigners. But he went anyway and he stuck it out and I gotta respect him for that. Now all the attention is on "the community, the community, the community", their demands and sense of entitlement, instead of the game and the passion for it.
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
May 10 2013 06:45 GMT
#2392
On May 10 2013 15:41 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 15:32 ROOTFayth wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:29 Talin wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:22 ROOTFayth wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:14 Talin wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:12 ROOTFayth wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:07 Talin wrote:
Recruit one of the most talented and THE hardest working foreign player that ever played the game. Enable and encourage the worst of his habits to make your (irrelevant at the time) SC2 division hyper popular in the next 1-2 years by deliberately building up and feeding off the negativity in his image, even when it was obvious it was destroying his best qualities as a player.

Then, when you realize you don't need him anymore, fire him for saying something that is genuinely true and not really offensive at all.

Well color me surprised.

not to take anything off of idra's work ethic cuz he seemed to do decent but I don't think he was THE hardest working foreign player... just had to look at Kas for that, always had easily over 2000 games every ladder season


I was talking 2009-2010 here, not sure Kas was even active back then (could be wrong though).

During his time on CJ and immediately before EG I'm pretty sure Idra was the hardest working western player. That is the player they signed at the time.

the beta came out in february 2010, not sure why you bring up 2009 o_o


We were talking about character traits, not a specific game.

well then so was I when i brought up Kas


I'm not disagreeing with that in the slightest, but I don't see how it's relevant to the original course of discussion.

I never said Idra was the hardest working foreigner of all time, but at the point in time he got signed by EG, he probably was and has been for a while (as well as being most accomplished in terms of performance/results).

well I don't personally know every foreigner out there but I know that from the very beginning of the beta up until a certain point, kiwikaki was working just as hard and having good results as well
ixi.genocide
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States981 Posts
May 10 2013 06:46 GMT
#2393
On May 10 2013 15:37 SCST wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 15:32 ixi.genocide wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:19 SCST wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:17 sekritzzz wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:11 Lokerek wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:07 Talin wrote:
Recruit one of the most talented and THE hardest working foreign player that ever played the game. Enable and encourage the worst of his habits to make your (irrelevant at the time) SC2 division hyper popular in the next 1-2 years by deliberately building up and feeding off the negativity in his image, even when it was obvious it was destroying his best qualities as a player.

Then, when you realize you don't need him anymore, fire him for saying something that is genuinely true and not really offensive at all.

Well color me surprised.



Here come the fanboys...
I hate Naniwa but to say Idra is hardest working player is a joke and insult to what Naniwa and other foreigner show.
I'd say EG was way too lenient and should have done it earlier.

Forgot about talented part. His success was mostly based on mechanics since the 14p 15h build he did was so predictable it was called Idra Build for a reason.

Here come the goldfish......

Some people have memories longer than 1 year you know. Idra used to be one of the most hardworking people. I actually dislike idra's personality and think he balances whines too much for his race but what he stated there is absolutely true and ruined a large part of the western SC2 scene for me. People aren't paid to be good, they are paid to be entertainers because that's exactly what most of the community seeks. As sad as that is, that is how the Sc2 community is.


Lmao since when do we know that goldfish have memories less than 1 year? Do you study or have extensive knowledge of goldfishes? LOLing hard at your choice of an introduction.

And why the hell would you assume that anyone would understand that analogy? lol


The memory of a goldfish is about 60 days. There have been studies on it, (not sure who gets a grant for that but w/e). As far as his analogy goes it's fairly poor though.


Jesus you're telling me that somebody actually studies the memory-span of goldfishes? What's this world coming to . . . LOL

Yeah, it's kind of odd. Maybe knowing how the memory of a simple creature like the goldfish would help understand our memory? That's a stretch but w/e. Someone somewhere was able to bullshit their way into that grant.
SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
May 10 2013 06:46 GMT
#2394
On May 10 2013 15:43 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 15:37 SCST wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:32 ixi.genocide wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:19 SCST wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:17 sekritzzz wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:11 Lokerek wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:07 Talin wrote:
Recruit one of the most talented and THE hardest working foreign player that ever played the game. Enable and encourage the worst of his habits to make your (irrelevant at the time) SC2 division hyper popular in the next 1-2 years by deliberately building up and feeding off the negativity in his image, even when it was obvious it was destroying his best qualities as a player.

Then, when you realize you don't need him anymore, fire him for saying something that is genuinely true and not really offensive at all.

Well color me surprised.



Here come the fanboys...
I hate Naniwa but to say Idra is hardest working player is a joke and insult to what Naniwa and other foreigner show.
I'd say EG was way too lenient and should have done it earlier.

Forgot about talented part. His success was mostly based on mechanics since the 14p 15h build he did was so predictable it was called Idra Build for a reason.

Here come the goldfish......

Some people have memories longer than 1 year you know. Idra used to be one of the most hardworking people. I actually dislike idra's personality and think he balances whines too much for his race but what he stated there is absolutely true and ruined a large part of the western SC2 scene for me. People aren't paid to be good, they are paid to be entertainers because that's exactly what most of the community seeks. As sad as that is, that is how the Sc2 community is.


Lmao since when do we know that goldfish have memories less than 1 year? Do you study or have extensive knowledge of goldfishes? LOLing hard at your choice of an introduction.

And why the hell would you assume that anyone would understand that analogy? lol


The memory of a goldfish is about 60 days. There have been studies on it, (not sure who gets a grant for that but w/e). As far as his analogy goes it's fairly poor though.


Jesus you're telling me that somebody actually studies the memory-span of goldfishes? What's this world coming to . . . LOL

Lol, you must not know about this thing called "research", young man.


Lol yes but it does sound pretty hilarious rolling off the tongue. It's like saying "I study dirt", which of course is a legitimate science but it does sound funny doesn't it? Loosen your cheeks a bit man we're just having a laugh here.
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
Punti
Profile Joined August 2010
99 Posts
May 10 2013 06:49 GMT
#2395
On May 10 2013 15:26 MuteZephyr wrote:
As sad as it may be, it's about time. This behavior is incredibly toxic to the SC community. SC can't be taken seriously while players that behave like children remained signed as part of one of the biggest name teams around.

I enjoyed some of his games in BW (when CCs weren't getting the better of him), and think he made great impact to early WoL metagame. I really hope to see IdrA succeed again. But only as a new player and new personality. And definitely only after some serious soul-searching.


Yeah, I agree with you. As long as players like him are one of the biggest known personalities with a high paycheck, SC2 Pro Scene is nothing more than a child sports. I cannot see any professional sports player behave anything like this over a longer period of time without getting what he sows. At least in his professional games he could try to act like a professional and gg out. I mean, it's okay if you are sometimes angry and do not handshake (gg), but every single time? It's just pathetic, even for a non professional, grown up sc2 player this behavior would be pathetic, let alone someone who carries some big brands on his t-shirt.
Merik_
Profile Joined June 2011
10 Posts
May 10 2013 06:50 GMT
#2396
I really dislike EG for this. seriously
matt93
Profile Joined January 2013
Australia32 Posts
May 10 2013 06:51 GMT
#2397
Maybe I'm the only one who didn't take offence to what idra said. I think it was justified, maybe not those exact words but definitely some kind of retaliation to someone who said he was "pained and crying inside".

I think firing him now is definitely a bit off. Almost seems as though EG were waiting for a outburst to get rid of him, this kind of stuff isn't necessarily new to idra. He definitely wasn't getting the same amount of stream viewers as he used to (fair bit stolen by demuslim) and he hasn't done anything special in awhile (pretty sure at one point he was on the EG-TL roster then got removed from it). So the motives are there, he may not have been worth his salary anymore.

not trying to get all /tinfoil hat but it does feel like they were trying to find a reason to get rid of him without attributing it to results like they did Puma, since idra hasn't been a results person for awhile. Personally I thought they'd have spoken to Geoff about the possibility of releasing him before doing it and leaving Geoff shocked on SotG, considering he's the team captain and all. Honestly wonder if Machine is next :\. crappy day for sc2 either way. Really hope Greg either gets picked up by a team and can continue being what he is, or finally quit and go back to uni and get a standard professional life.
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Ammoth
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden391 Posts
May 10 2013 06:51 GMT
#2398
On May 10 2013 15:39 DamageControL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 15:37 SCST wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:32 ixi.genocide wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:19 SCST wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:17 sekritzzz wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:11 Lokerek wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:07 Talin wrote:
Recruit one of the most talented and THE hardest working foreign player that ever played the game. Enable and encourage the worst of his habits to make your (irrelevant at the time) SC2 division hyper popular in the next 1-2 years by deliberately building up and feeding off the negativity in his image, even when it was obvious it was destroying his best qualities as a player.

Then, when you realize you don't need him anymore, fire him for saying something that is genuinely true and not really offensive at all.

Well color me surprised.



Here come the fanboys...
I hate Naniwa but to say Idra is hardest working player is a joke and insult to what Naniwa and other foreigner show.
I'd say EG was way too lenient and should have done it earlier.

Forgot about talented part. His success was mostly based on mechanics since the 14p 15h build he did was so predictable it was called Idra Build for a reason.

Here come the goldfish......

Some people have memories longer than 1 year you know. Idra used to be one of the most hardworking people. I actually dislike idra's personality and think he balances whines too much for his race but what he stated there is absolutely true and ruined a large part of the western SC2 scene for me. People aren't paid to be good, they are paid to be entertainers because that's exactly what most of the community seeks. As sad as that is, that is how the Sc2 community is.


Lmao since when do we know that goldfish have memories less than 1 year? Do you study or have extensive knowledge of goldfishes? LOLing hard at your choice of an introduction.

And why the hell would you assume that anyone would understand that analogy? lol


The memory of a goldfish is about 60 days. There have been studies on it, (not sure who gets a grant for that but w/e). As far as his analogy goes it's fairly poor though.


Jesus you're telling me that somebody actually studies the memory-span of goldfishes? What's this world coming to . . . LOL
"memory of a goldfish" is pretty common in the USA at least. an urban legend is that they have a memory of 3 seconds.

Common in Sweden as well.

On Topic, I feel this was kinda unexpected, the comment felt like the usual Idra. But the more I think about outside of an internet forum the worse it gets. Props to Alex for putting the foot down. (If this was the main reason) Otherwise I'm kinda confused.
Jarree
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland1004 Posts
May 10 2013 06:51 GMT
#2399
"there he goes" -axslav. Not much else to say.
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
May 10 2013 06:57 GMT
#2400
damn son this is huge news
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