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bagklog
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark14 Posts
May 10 2013 06:57 GMT
#2401
wow bye Idra, you put the evil in EG, but in a very needed way.

So now they are just going to be called "The Geniuses"?
Gene(S)is
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden419 Posts
May 10 2013 06:58 GMT
#2402
I thought the realsement would be due to his lack of performance, not his already well known bm. That said I do know that there are thoundands of players out there who actually like his personality, the bad boy of Starcraft. Was Idra given the choice to change or did this come as a suprise to him?

This makes me think back to Oov who was considered quite bm during his heydays but eventually became a very humble person and matured enough to coach an entire team.
For the swarm
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
May 10 2013 06:58 GMT
#2403
EG just jumped up a few notches on my "favorite team ladder".
Such flammable little insects!
SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 07:02:19
May 10 2013 06:59 GMT
#2404
On May 10 2013 15:51 matt93 wrote:
Maybe I'm the only one who didn't take offence to what idra said. I think it was justified, maybe not those exact words but definitely some kind of retaliation to someone who said he was "pained and crying inside".



If Idra simply made a grammar mistake and didn't mean "the entire community" when he said those words, why didn't he simply correct his mistake or post a clarification? He had plenty of time to fix his "mistake" and he didn't, which shows that he

a) either didn't make a grammar mistake after all and really meant it, or

b) he knew it was a mistake, but didn't think it was important to fix it or he didn't care about the consequences (which I'm sure he knew would be harsh).



P.S. you can "not take offence" to what someone says, but saying you "think it was justified" is putting yourself out on a limb for credibility.
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
DanishArtcore
Profile Joined April 2013
Denmark4 Posts
May 10 2013 07:00 GMT
#2405
This is REALLY sad... Favourite player just left EG...
I fcking love cake.
Punti
Profile Joined August 2010
99 Posts
May 10 2013 07:00 GMT
#2406
On May 10 2013 15:36 Mothra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 15:31 ROOTFayth wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:27 Mothra wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:22 ROOTFayth wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:14 Talin wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:12 ROOTFayth wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:07 Talin wrote:
Recruit one of the most talented and THE hardest working foreign player that ever played the game. Enable and encourage the worst of his habits to make your (irrelevant at the time) SC2 division hyper popular in the next 1-2 years by deliberately building up and feeding off the negativity in his image, even when it was obvious it was destroying his best qualities as a player.

Then, when you realize you don't need him anymore, fire him for saying something that is genuinely true and not really offensive at all.

Well color me surprised.

not to take anything off of idra's work ethic cuz he seemed to do decent but I don't think he was THE hardest working foreign player... just had to look at Kas for that, always had easily over 2000 games every ladder season


I was talking 2009-2010 here, not sure Kas was even active back then (could be wrong though).

During his time on CJ and immediately before EG I'm pretty sure Idra was the hardest working western player. That is the player they signed at the time.

the beta came out in february 2010, not sure why you bring up 2009 o_o


Before SC2, Idra moved over to Korea to live in the CJ Entus pro gamer house. Despite not getting much results, he stuck with it for quite awhile and was the only foreigner to do something like that (at least at that time, I know some others did before). That really took a lot of guts and dedication to the game.

there were very few who were willing to do that, the risk/reward was just way too bad to even consider imo... I'm sure he doesn't regret doing that but I think he would have achieved just as much in SC2 even if he didn't go to korea prior to that


Well my point is that he truly loved the game and held himself to a high standard (in terms of play, not personality lol). That is more than can be said of the waves of people who have swooped in to make money and careers off of SC2. Idra actually sacrificed and broke new waters by going to live full time in a 100% Korean pro house. People forget what he put in and what he gave up for the game.


IdrA wasn't the first foreigner going to korea for SC and living there full time. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Grrrr...

Also: IdrA more than once stated that he hates Starcraft 2 and just plays it for the money.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
May 10 2013 07:00 GMT
#2407
Goes to sleep.
Wakes up to 100+ page thread about IdrA getting booted from EG.
Can't really say I'm surprised, hope he either finds a team or leaves SC2 and does something that makes him truly happy
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
ZashGamer
Profile Joined January 2012
Faroe Islands4 Posts
May 10 2013 07:01 GMT
#2408
Well done EG. It was about time imo
Megakenny
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada829 Posts
May 10 2013 07:01 GMT
#2409
Has Idra said anything since this happened?
philly5man
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom356 Posts
May 10 2013 07:02 GMT
#2410
On May 10 2013 15:58 Rannasha wrote:
EG just jumped up a few notches on my "favorite team ladder".


Well said! A lot of respect for EG for making what I'm sure was a tough decision, but the right one.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 07:04:03
May 10 2013 07:02 GMT
#2411
On May 10 2013 15:28 JimmyHollow wrote:
Well for sure that was not the reaction that I expected... :/



I expected it, just based on EG. Alex's history and decision making process.

Here's my post from this morning in the locked EG thread, 8 hours before EG. Alex's announcement after IdrA's comment in the thread and his loss in WCS.

Yeah, it might be time for him to move on. While he still posts huge stream numbers it's starting to have a negative effect on EG's brand overall.

Because less face it — maybe this topic wouldn't even exist if a player like IdrA wasn't on EG. When you think about it, IdrA's fame and financial success DESPITE his lack of passion or success in game is probably THE driving factor that makes people question whether EG cares more about money than results.

A great deal of EG's brand is defined, in the community's mind, by IdrA's reputation. Does anyone question the integrity of players like InControl, DeMuslim, Jaedong, Thorzain, Suppy etc? Not really. Because they don't openly complain about the game, rage at other players, or just give up in the middle of a fight.

EG. Alex once talked about the importance of competing with a certain level of integrity (referring to the games Naniwa threw to Nestea.) People will spend good time and money to watch good competition — it's why teams and players have value and can become commodities. Sports hinges on the pretense that, regardless of the results, players actually care about winning. So even if you're in an unwinnable situation, it's absolutely unacceptable to throw games, not try or give up. It betrays the audience's trust and is bad business.

What IdrA did in WCS today was pretty bad. It's like Allen Iverson refusing to enter a game, with 2 minutes left and his team down 10 points. Yes, it's unlikely you'll win, but he's getting paid to try. That being said, it's not fair to lump IdrA in with other EG players that obviously do try.


When I'm on, I'm on.
Wertheron
Profile Joined October 2011
France439 Posts
May 10 2013 07:03 GMT
#2412
He hate SC2, insult other players, don't want to show some respect for them, whine all the time, rage quit game that he didn't loose and made horrible comment against all the SC2 viewers/fans.

Some guys can say "now i hate EG blabla". Now i have more respect for EG, they release Idra even if the WCS buzz could give them more money via Idra personnality. 2% of Idra attitude in my job and i was fired 4 years ago.
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
May 10 2013 07:05 GMT
#2413
That comment looked like anything else idra say. GL to you, hope you make the best of this.
Bartundar
CFDragon
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States304 Posts
May 10 2013 07:05 GMT
#2414
It seems as if EG's reaction enforces Idra's point that it's about pandering more than anything. There isn't nearly as lucrative a business model in being a competitive, winning Starcraft team as there is in being "entertaining" and garnering attention.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
May 10 2013 07:06 GMT
#2415
:OOO

holy shit.
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Fuchsteufelswild
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2028 Posts
May 10 2013 07:06 GMT
#2416
inb4 Avilo becomes IdrA's personal coach on a new team, oh yeah.
ZerO - FantaSy - Calm - Nal_rA - Jaedong - NaDa - EffOrt - Bisu - by.hero - StarDust - Welmu - Nerchio - Supernova - Solar - Squirtle - LosirA - Grubby - IntoTheRainbow - Golden... ~~~ Incredible Miracle and Woongjin Stars 화이팅!
Gr33d
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany423 Posts
May 10 2013 07:07 GMT
#2417
So, will he quit? No results and I doubt this will make his play any better. Maybe he even forced it to go out with a bang?
He could also take this as motivation to improve, but I doubt this will happen.
Fanatics find their heaven in never ending storming wind || Auguries of destruction be a lullaby for rebirth
Merik_
Profile Joined June 2011
10 Posts
May 10 2013 07:07 GMT
#2418
''ewww idra is saying some bad words, lets cry as if the entire community is dying because of it''

grow some dicks, fags

User was temp banned for this post.
SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 07:09:36
May 10 2013 07:09 GMT
#2419
On May 10 2013 16:07 Merik_ wrote:
''ewww idra is saying some bad words, lets cry as if the entire community is dying because of it''

grow some dicks, fags


lol quality post. Aren't Idra's fans the best?
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
May 10 2013 07:09 GMT
#2420
On May 10 2013 16:07 Merik_ wrote:
''ewww idra is saying some bad words, lets cry as if the entire community is dying because of it''

grow some dicks, fags


Defending Idra in this manner is really helping him? Am I right.
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