EPTCall to Action: May 2 Balance Testing - Page 10
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tuho12345
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Belha
Italy2850 Posts
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NicolBolas
United States1388 Posts
Burrow research cost decreased from 100/100 to 50/50 So let me get this straight, Blizzard. SC2 WoL is in beta. Burrow is at Tier 1 and costs 50/50. You then shove it into Tier 2 and make it cost 100/100. For the next 2+ years. Then HotS comes out. And now you decide that, hey, maybe the Zerg really should have early, cheap burrow? Even though Zerg Tier 1 hasn't changed much since WoL. Can you people ever stick to an idea? It's one thing if you realize you made a mistake, but that should have been a few months after the original change, not 2+ years later. It's like you're just throwing a bunch of crap against the wall and seeing what sticks. | ||
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ymir233
United States8275 Posts
On May 03 2013 13:31 FoShao wrote: crybabies always point at protoss -_- seriously there is NO oracle play in tournaments, just cause you lost to oracles on ladder doesn't make it broken... I like how you've never seen a proxy oracle tourney vod in your life... Who is Parting again lols | ||
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
On May 03 2013 13:31 FoShao wrote: crybabies always point at protoss -_- seriously there is NO oracle play in tournaments, just cause you lost to oracles on ladder doesn't make it broken... Clearly haven't watch Parting/HerO/MC playing. Spore buff changes nothing. It will be good against the first small pack of mutas that come out. Later on not so much against the huge flock of mutas. But what Muta gives is map control. And that is what spore cannot deterred. ZvZ will still be Muta vs Muta. Blizzard think Spores can deterred Muta? So wrong. Oracle buff. I can't comment much on it since it is mainly a PvT. Burrow change is now back at Tier 1 50/50. People forget but this Burrow change Tier1 50/50 was already in WOL beta and it was broken. Burrow change won't make it in. It will be too good. Those 5:50:6.00 min roach/ling burrow timing attack will be brutal. Blizzard...........................* facepalm* | ||
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Rainling
United States456 Posts
Yes, oracles will likely be too strong with this change. Do you not think that Blizzard will nerf the oracle if it turns out to be imbalanced? IMO this change isn't really about balance, it's about making the oracle a more interesting unit. In the development of interesting, fun units, design should come first. Balance comes second. Would you rather have a boring unit for the rest of Starcraft 2, or an interesting unit that rewards micro that's imbalanced for a few weeks? | ||
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D4V3Z02
Germany693 Posts
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megid
Brazil142 Posts
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uh-oh
Hong Kong135 Posts
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RogerChillingworth
Chad3132 Posts
On May 03 2013 13:38 Belha wrote: The oracle buff is almost as bad as the muta buff. with all the massive buffs to other shit, mutas needed to be inflated. either that or big buffs to other units...blizzard chose mutas. | ||
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Iron_
United States389 Posts
Protoss does not have to be easy. It's ok if their super strong harass unit can actually be killed if they don't micro. If you want to make it a tad more forgiving, I can see a small HP or shield boost, but if they are going to be fast enough to easily escape any danger, they need to do less damage. | ||
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DemigodcelpH
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Insoleet
France1806 Posts
Oracle buff, I like. Maybe it is too strong, and they'll nerf its damage later. Burrow buff, I like. I wonder that we are gonna see with such a buff. | ||
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CountZero71
Germany89 Posts
In order to stop the never ending streak of Protoss tournament wins? Like we had for 3 yrs in WoL??? | ||
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frontline-
Bulgaria281 Posts
Terran doesn't get anything new? Lol | ||
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Insoleet
France1806 Posts
On May 03 2013 09:24 mechengineer123 wrote: How do you figure? Overlords spot it coming in advance, spores don't require evo and you can move them, queens are already there anyway. Terran will basically have to go 12rax15ebay now, lol, and then you die to any allin. Or you reaper expand like flash does, and you can get the map control and check for proxies... | ||
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Thrillz
4313 Posts
On May 03 2013 14:02 D4V3Z02 wrote: Come on Blizzard, just make burrow like siege. Automatic burrow would not only be overpowered, but would ruin every matchup. | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37120 Posts
-___-;; This pretty much FORCES Terran to always have to build turrets or prepare widow mines in advance... | ||
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dustinth
China205 Posts
I still insist changing the map instead of balance. | ||
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Tppz!
Germany1449 Posts
On May 03 2013 14:34 Seeker wrote: Oracles rape the crap out of marines already, and they gave it a speed boost? -___-;; This pretty much FORCES Terran to always have to build turrets or prepare widow mines in advance... which will resolve in no oracles ever in pvt. | ||
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