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On May 09 2013 03:21 MaeStrO.OrtSeaM wrote:
For someone with a degree in journalism, I'd expect at least something productive when he decides to write, but I guess Richard isn't professional enough to keep personal feelings and opinions out of his work..
Same goes with how he deals with people. Especially on the tek-9 website, he insults the users there, even on twitter, but if you say one word about him, doesn't even have to be insulting, just stating facts, you end up getting banned and if he's in the mood he pm's you first, insulting you, trying to belittle you etc.. then he bans you so you can't speak up anymore.. A serious lack of professionalism.
I was asked to write for the new website/merger between tek-9 and whatever other website(s) involved but I declined, because that would mean I'd have to work with the likes of him, and he doesn't deserve anyone remotely productive/professional to be writing for/under him.
The guy should really step away from e-sports. He's got a degree in journalism, so it's obvious what he should do, instead of acting like a child everywhere he goes within e-sports.
Would like to know when all this happened? Sounds like the usual butthurt "I should be able to say whatever I want on someone else's website" nonsense I read every day.
Still, always good to see how much of a grudge you weird people will hold. Shows that what we do matters at least.
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I think the weakest part of his argument (and it is weak, as well as poorly written) is his assertion that Root is a "small time organisation that was one time relevant". Really? The team with more players in WCS NA than TL? The team with the most players in Shoutcraft NA? That is irrelevant? Please.
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On May 10 2013 04:07 Richard_Lewis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 03:21 MaeStrO.OrtSeaM wrote:
For someone with a degree in journalism, I'd expect at least something productive when he decides to write, but I guess Richard isn't professional enough to keep personal feelings and opinions out of his work..
Same goes with how he deals with people. Especially on the tek-9 website, he insults the users there, even on twitter, but if you say one word about him, doesn't even have to be insulting, just stating facts, you end up getting banned and if he's in the mood he pm's you first, insulting you, trying to belittle you etc.. then he bans you so you can't speak up anymore.. A serious lack of professionalism.
I was asked to write for the new website/merger between tek-9 and whatever other website(s) involved but I declined, because that would mean I'd have to work with the likes of him, and he doesn't deserve anyone remotely productive/professional to be writing for/under him.
The guy should really step away from e-sports. He's got a degree in journalism, so it's obvious what he should do, instead of acting like a child everywhere he goes within e-sports. Would like to know when all this happened? Sounds like the usual butthurt "I should be able to say whatever I want on someone else's website" nonsense I read every day. Still, always good to see how much of a grudge you weird people will hold. Shows that what we do matters at least.
I think you proved his point nicely. Out of all the posts in the last dozen pages, not only do you respond to this one immediately, it's the only post you've responded to since your initial defence.
And more importantly, that one post is spent calling someone butthurt.
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On May 10 2013 04:07 Richard_Lewis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 03:21 MaeStrO.OrtSeaM wrote:
For someone with a degree in journalism, I'd expect at least something productive when he decides to write, but I guess Richard isn't professional enough to keep personal feelings and opinions out of his work..
Same goes with how he deals with people. Especially on the tek-9 website, he insults the users there, even on twitter, but if you say one word about him, doesn't even have to be insulting, just stating facts, you end up getting banned and if he's in the mood he pm's you first, insulting you, trying to belittle you etc.. then he bans you so you can't speak up anymore.. A serious lack of professionalism.
I was asked to write for the new website/merger between tek-9 and whatever other website(s) involved but I declined, because that would mean I'd have to work with the likes of him, and he doesn't deserve anyone remotely productive/professional to be writing for/under him.
The guy should really step away from e-sports. He's got a degree in journalism, so it's obvious what he should do, instead of acting like a child everywhere he goes within e-sports. Would like to know when all this happened? Sounds like the usual butthurt "I should be able to say whatever I want on someone else's website" nonsense I read every day. Still, always good to see how much of a grudge you weird people will hold. Shows that what we do matters at least.
People can do whatever the fuck they want with their money, if they want to support ROOT, then so be it. Fuck you. Nothing you do matters.
PS. People that use the word butthurt are usually total morons, you validate this nicely.
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On May 10 2013 04:54 WolfintheSheep wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 04:07 Richard_Lewis wrote:On May 09 2013 03:21 MaeStrO.OrtSeaM wrote:
For someone with a degree in journalism, I'd expect at least something productive when he decides to write, but I guess Richard isn't professional enough to keep personal feelings and opinions out of his work..
Same goes with how he deals with people. Especially on the tek-9 website, he insults the users there, even on twitter, but if you say one word about him, doesn't even have to be insulting, just stating facts, you end up getting banned and if he's in the mood he pm's you first, insulting you, trying to belittle you etc.. then he bans you so you can't speak up anymore.. A serious lack of professionalism.
I was asked to write for the new website/merger between tek-9 and whatever other website(s) involved but I declined, because that would mean I'd have to work with the likes of him, and he doesn't deserve anyone remotely productive/professional to be writing for/under him.
The guy should really step away from e-sports. He's got a degree in journalism, so it's obvious what he should do, instead of acting like a child everywhere he goes within e-sports. Would like to know when all this happened? Sounds like the usual butthurt "I should be able to say whatever I want on someone else's website" nonsense I read every day. Still, always good to see how much of a grudge you weird people will hold. Shows that what we do matters at least. I think you proved his point nicely. Out of all the posts in the last dozen pages, not only do you respond to this one immediately, it's the only post you've responded to since your initial defence. And more importantly, that one post is spent calling someone butthurt.
If by immediately you mean a day later, then yes it was pretty immediate.
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On May 10 2013 07:13 Richard_Lewis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 04:54 WolfintheSheep wrote:On May 10 2013 04:07 Richard_Lewis wrote:On May 09 2013 03:21 MaeStrO.OrtSeaM wrote:
For someone with a degree in journalism, I'd expect at least something productive when he decides to write, but I guess Richard isn't professional enough to keep personal feelings and opinions out of his work..
Same goes with how he deals with people. Especially on the tek-9 website, he insults the users there, even on twitter, but if you say one word about him, doesn't even have to be insulting, just stating facts, you end up getting banned and if he's in the mood he pm's you first, insulting you, trying to belittle you etc.. then he bans you so you can't speak up anymore.. A serious lack of professionalism.
I was asked to write for the new website/merger between tek-9 and whatever other website(s) involved but I declined, because that would mean I'd have to work with the likes of him, and he doesn't deserve anyone remotely productive/professional to be writing for/under him.
The guy should really step away from e-sports. He's got a degree in journalism, so it's obvious what he should do, instead of acting like a child everywhere he goes within e-sports. Would like to know when all this happened? Sounds like the usual butthurt "I should be able to say whatever I want on someone else's website" nonsense I read every day. Still, always good to see how much of a grudge you weird people will hold. Shows that what we do matters at least. I think you proved his point nicely. Out of all the posts in the last dozen pages, not only do you respond to this one immediately, it's the only post you've responded to since your initial defence. And more importantly, that one post is spent calling someone butthurt. If by immediately you mean a day later, then yes it was pretty immediate.
Butthurt? Not by a mile.
When did this all happen? To me it became really obvious since the day you took over Bcrbo's place on tek9. Your "dictatorship" on that website started right away. When someone made a valid argument and you couldn't prove the person wrong, you simply banned him. Not just that, first you warned him that this person was going to get banned, even though his arguments were completely valid. You took offense in that, so you banned the fucker. Not just that.. You even removed someone from your staff because YOU(!) thought he agreed with that person's opinion, which wasn't the case at all and you didn't even listen to him, you just removed him from the tek9 staff. In this case I'm referring to the Portuguese lad called David. After you banned him you even said he was never part of the staff, which everyone knew was just a blatant lie.
Few days ago you banned someone for saying it's funny to see you insulting people on twitter, in PMs, on the forums whatever, but as soon as 1 person even gives the hint of offending you, you ban them. And guess what, that person got banned as well.. hmmm, yeah, I'm quite sure all those people complaining about you are "butthurt" or whatever. But I'm not, I wouldn't decline an offer to write for/under you & tek9 & the new website and then be butthurt.. That wouldn't make sense.
I remember you getting in a press conference and whatever happened in there, you continued about it on twitter, making yourself look so childish, I was simply astonished by how you don't realize how unprofessional you make yourself look sometimes, well.. most of the time nowadays considering people don't only get to read your work but they can also see your personality through your ways of "moderating" a website and a community. Which is exactly why I declined to write for that new website that's coming up.
btw, ""I should be able to say whatever I want on someone else's website"", it's funny, because there is some truth in it, because if I would've made my initial post in this thread on tek9, I would end up getting banned for "abusing staff", which is apparently your favorite line to write when you give a reason to someone's ban, even when their posts aren't even remotely abusive nor insulting, it's just you and your ego and whenever you feel threatened, humiliated or whatever, you turn everything into a dictatorship on your website.
"Shows that what we do matters at least" <= people who feel involved because of the word "we" should feel offended, because you put yourself in the same class as them. And no, what you do doesn't really matter, you're replaceable just like anyone else and frankly, 8 out of 10 people trying to do what you do would eventually end up being better at it (writing articles and such) and they wouldn't even need a degree in journalism for that either.
In the very beginning when I started exploring your work I was like alright.. it was good, it was fun to read, it was productive,... But nowadays, you're like only a shadow of who you used to be. And that's a shame, but then again, maybe you've always been like this and maybe I just didn't notice until I decided to get into it a little more often instead of just playing games, who knows..
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Butthurt? Not by a mile.
This statement is usually followed by a wall of lies and / or nonsense to basically try and explain how wrong it is that you had a ban from a forum. I can see you've not disappointed and held true to the stereotype. Safe to say that you are indeed butthurt, where "butthurt" means you disagree with you not being considered important enough to have rules ignored for your benefit.
When did this all happen? To me it became really obvious since the day you took over Bcrbo's place on tek9. Your "dictatorship" on that website started right away. When someone made a valid argument and you couldn't prove the person wrong, you simply banned him. Not just that, first you warned him that this person was going to get banned, even though his arguments were completely valid. You took offense in that, so you banned the fucker. Not just that.. You even removed someone from your staff because YOU(!) thought he agreed with that person's opinion, which wasn't the case at all and you didn't even listen to him, you just removed him from the tek9 staff. In this case I'm referring to the Portuguese lad called David. After you banned him you even said he was never part of the staff, which everyone knew was just a blatant lie.]
Let's not forget why I was appointed in the first place and let's not forget how I've turned the site around. Yes, forum moderation has got stricter. If you knew some of the things that were actually going on, then you'd be in a position to talk about "dictatorships" - reality: someone had to take charge. We had two factions of admins banning each other and undoing each other's bans, staff who thought the site was closing and an editor who basically told people he was jumping ship and everyone else should do the same. I came in and fixed it all and sometimes you have to make decisions people don't like.
In fixing those problems I had to find staff who could all "sing from the same hymn sheet" and that certainly doesn't extend to people who simultaneously want responsibility and abuse that trust by openly criticising staff and betraying confidences. We had some people that didn't realise what being part of a team meant and yes, we removed them, banned them and when people got upset by that we removed them too. I'm not going to apologise for doing that. We found the right people to run the site.
Few days ago you banned someone for saying it's funny to see you insulting people on twitter, in PMs, on the forums whatever, but as soon as 1 person even gives the hint of offending you, you ban them. And guess what, that person got banned as well.. hmmm, yeah, I'm quite sure all those people complaining about you are "butthurt" or whatever. But I'm not, I wouldn't decline an offer to write for/under you & tek9 & the new website and then be butthurt.. That wouldn't make sense.
If people want to abuse me on Twitter, as many do, they can. Same as my own Twitter is my space that has nothing to do with my job. If people want to abuse me or any other staff member - or user for that matter - on our site, they get banned. That's how it works. People can disagree with me but they don't get to abuse me in my own workplace, sorry.
As for this "offer to write" you allude to... You've never been approached to write by me and I'm the only person who handles recruitment so will have to just to dismiss this as another fantastical part of your account, which is already a great work of fiction.
I remember you getting in a press conference and whatever happened in there, you continued about it on twitter, making yourself look so childish
I don't think you know what a "press conference" is (it's when you call the press to tell them something, which I've never done in my decade working in e-sports) so either you're incredibly stupid or you're making up a story. Either way, it points to just how ridiculous what you're saying is.
, I was simply astonished by how you don't realize how unprofessional you make yourself look sometimes, well.. most of the time nowadays considering people don't only get to read your work but they can also see your personality through your ways of "moderating" a website and a community. Which is exactly why I declined to write for that new website that's coming up.
Reiterating points you've already said and a lie you've already told. This isn't an exam. You don't need to waffle to hope to bag some "extra credit". I moderate the website in the way that the vast majority of professional websites are moderated. You won't read posts on the BBC saying "FUCK THE BBC" or "LICENSE FEE DISGRACE" or "FIRE PHIL MCNULTY". If people want to enter into a disagreement surrounding opinions, great. They are free to do so and do so daily, Saying that our staff are bad, throwing personal abuse at them, using the forums as conduits for other grievances and petty nonsense... We delete that. I'm not sure how this qualifies as unprofessional but nothing you've said has been accurate or made sense, so why break that trend.
btw, ""I should be able to say whatever I want on someone else's website"", it's funny, because there is some truth in it, because if I would've made my initial post in this thread on tek9, I would end up getting banned for "abusing staff", which is apparently your favorite line to write when you give a reason to someone's ban, even when their posts aren't even remotely abusive nor insulting, it's just you and your ego and whenever you feel threatened, humiliated or whatever, you turn everything into a dictatorship on your website.
See above points. Then when you've digested that also realise that probably 95% of bans on Tek-9 were issued by our moderators and not me. It's nothing to do with my ego and everything to do with enforcing a professional standard. More abuse is aimed at our moderators than it is me in truth because of my lack of activity on the forums.
"Shows that what we do matters at least" <= people who feel involved because of the word "we" should feel offended, because you put yourself in the same class as them. And no, what you do doesn't really matter, you're replaceable just like anyone else and frankly, 8 out of 10 people trying to do what you do would eventually end up being better at it (writing articles and such) and they wouldn't even need a degree in journalism for that either.
An irrelevant point to what I meant, which is simply for someone to take the argument to another site (yes, the vast majority of users on Team Liquid don't fucking care you were banned on Tek-9, or probably even know what Tek-9 is) shows how important it is to you. However rather than channel that to alter your own behaviour you post a wall of childish nonsense and lies.
If people can do better than me, good for them. I hope they do. E-sports needs more talented writers, no doubt about that.
In the very beginning when I started exploring your work I was like alright.. it was good, it was fun to read, it was productive,... But nowadays, you're like only a shadow of who you used to be. And that's a shame, but then again, maybe you've always been like this and maybe I just didn't notice until I decided to get into it a little more often instead of just playing games, who knows..
Let's summarise this part is "before I got banned I loved your work. Now I'll go out of my way to denigrate it at every opportunity because you banned me from a forum I like to use".
Hell, I don't even know if I banned you but if you think anything you're doing is original then you're really mistaken. Regardless, no one cares here so if you want to continue this, go for it. I think most adults could read the nonsense you've posted, read the reply I've foolishly taken time to write and realise which one of us is of sound mind. Here's the thing though, it's not a popularity contest. It wouldn't matter if everything you said WAS true, which it isn't, and you managed to persuade an entire bigger forum to "hate" me (to carry on your childish language). I'm in charge of a website, I make the calls. If you don't agree with it, vote with your feet. Posts like this though only embarrass you.
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... so rather than getting hard hitting e-sports content pushed to the forefront, we get tens of thousands of people encouraged to watch someone making a living through e-sports humiliate themselves in exchange for your views. Dance for those pennies you hobo…
Richard Lewis - Now with 50% more irony!
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