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Thanks for this, it amused me for a good half an hour, Rekrul really rips apart Artosis o.0
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On April 30 2013 15:47 Lonyo wrote:
His attitude is most definitely a problem.
Leaving games before they are lost.
Refusing to change his play.
Complaining about everyone else all the time rather than acknowledging what his own actual weaknesses are (he may say "I should have done this and this" but that's not the root of the problem).
He has a negative attitude towards his opponents and towards the game, how can that not be a problem?
He used to be good because he had some skills and others weren't at the same level as him in those areas (e.g. macro). Everyone else has now caught up and surpassed him in the areas he was strong, and those people are also strong in other areas. Idra hasn't really developed in those other areas.
You can't blame only Idra, he's been on EG for years, living now in their team house, and they seem to have done nothing to help him overcome his weaknesses, and are happy to let him sit there and be known as the "bad boy".
Soon enough he will just be known as "bad and a douche".
I think you can blame him watching his team mates stream of late without him in the house has highlighted what a negative impact he makes on the team as a whole to the extent of throwing game vs him to keep a happy and have a better playing environment.
as a friend said to me last week Idra ha just a personality these days if that's true then its very sad cause its a bad personality outside of being a good gamer everything about idra is pretty negative.
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On April 30 2013 06:18 BoggieMan wrote:
I really admire idras mechanicaly macro focused style, too bad he isen't doing so well in sc2 as he was in bw...
Are you serious? He is 5 times more successful in sc2 than he was in bw, the skill gap between korean pros and non-pros back then was insane. It's just uncomparable.
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Holy... I miss good old BW times. Awesome read!
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Idra has been hugely successful in SC2, it's just there are a lot more foreigners in the scene, which makes it less "extraordinary" than one white guy rising to the korean army.
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While I respect what he has done in bridging the gap that exists between Koreans and the rest of the world for SC, to me attitude is everything and your skill at your chosen career doesn't give you the right to be a tosser.
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lol i miss good old bw days...
Idra now is just the shadow of himself. Watching his stream more than 30 min is a fucking performance.
Whining about balance constantly, insulting or disrespect almost all players he loses against, calling "awful" players like Byun, calling Demu "a piece of shit" and always leaving when they face off on the ladder, and the list goes on....
When demu is facing very good players like byun on ladder, he will loose like 4-1, but is happy to play against him, wtach all replay in order to understand why he loss, etc... Its for good for him and for viewers.
When idra is facing byun on ladder, he loses 5-0, insults him and all his prime teamates, whines about how it is impossible to beat terran, and stops streaming.
I think Its time for him to retire.
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On May 01 2013 01:33 sage_francis wrote:
lol i miss good old bw days...
Idra now is just the shadow of himself. Watching his stream more than 30 min is a fucking performance.
Whining about balance constantly, insulting or disrespect almost all players he loses against, calling "awful" players like Byun, calling Demu "a piece of shit" and always leaving when they face off on the ladder, and the list goes on....
When demu is facing very good players like byun on ladder, he will loose like 4-1, but is happy to play against him, wtach all replay in order to understand why he loss, etc... Its for good for him and for viewers.
When idra is facing byun on ladder, he loses 5-0, insults him and all his prime teamates, whines about how it is impossible to beat terran, and stops streaming.
I think Its time for him to retire.
That's his image, and it gets him thousands of viewers and a huge fanbase, and shows he is emotionally invested in the game. I'd be more concerned if he showed no interest in losing.
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On May 01 2013 01:38 Nekovivie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2013 01:33 sage_francis wrote:
lol i miss good old bw days...
Idra now is just the shadow of himself. Watching his stream more than 30 min is a fucking performance.
Whining about balance constantly, insulting or disrespect almost all players he loses against, calling "awful" players like Byun, calling Demu "a piece of shit" and always leaving when they face off on the ladder, and the list goes on....
When demu is facing very good players like byun on ladder, he will loose like 4-1, but is happy to play against him, wtach all replay in order to understand why he loss, etc... Its for good for him and for viewers.
When idra is facing byun on ladder, he loses 5-0, insults him and all his prime teamates, whines about how it is impossible to beat terran, and stops streaming.
I think Its time for him to retire. That's his image, and it gets him thousands of viewers and a huge fanbase, and shows he is emotionally invested in the game. I'd be more concerned if he showed no interest in losing.
You can be "emotionally invested in the game" and still show respect to your opponents and viewers...
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On May 01 2013 01:38 Nekovivie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2013 01:33 sage_francis wrote:
lol i miss good old bw days...
Idra now is just the shadow of himself. Watching his stream more than 30 min is a fucking performance.
Whining about balance constantly, insulting or disrespect almost all players he loses against, calling "awful" players like Byun, calling Demu "a piece of shit" and always leaving when they face off on the ladder, and the list goes on....
When demu is facing very good players like byun on ladder, he will loose like 4-1, but is happy to play against him, wtach all replay in order to understand why he loss, etc... Its for good for him and for viewers.
When idra is facing byun on ladder, he loses 5-0, insults him and all his prime teamates, whines about how it is impossible to beat terran, and stops streaming.
I think Its time for him to retire. That's his image, and it gets him thousands of viewers and a huge fanbase, and shows he is emotionally invested in the game. I'd be more concerned if he showed no interest in losing.
I believe this "emotional investment" is what's holding him back from improving at the moment
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On May 01 2013 01:38 Nekovivie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2013 01:33 sage_francis wrote:
lol i miss good old bw days...
Idra now is just the shadow of himself. Watching his stream more than 30 min is a fucking performance.
Whining about balance constantly, insulting or disrespect almost all players he loses against, calling "awful" players like Byun, calling Demu "a piece of shit" and always leaving when they face off on the ladder, and the list goes on....
When demu is facing very good players like byun on ladder, he will loose like 4-1, but is happy to play against him, wtach all replay in order to understand why he loss, etc... Its for good for him and for viewers.
When idra is facing byun on ladder, he loses 5-0, insults him and all his prime teamates, whines about how it is impossible to beat terran, and stops streaming.
I think Its time for him to retire. That's his image, and it gets him thousands of viewers and a huge fanbase, and shows he is emotionally invested in the game. I'd be more concerned if he showed no interest in losing.
yeah, no
thats his personality and the fact that he still gets so many viewers and worshipers speaks a lot about the community.
idra is a rager and has been a horrible horrible influence on the whole scene.
zero respect for EG for still keeping him on the roster, especially considering he hasnt had any results in probably two years.
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His "emotional investment" reads more like apathy than anything.
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BW history lessons are always very interesting. It's pretty interesting to hear about bomber, symbol, and virus back then too.
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I cant tell you how many times i have seen Idra quit games (including tourney games) right in the middle of a game incredibly prematurely... like even in supply in some cases... after maybe losing a small battle or something <idra leaves game> its like WTF... he could have won at least 35% of those games if he had stayed in and thats being conservative. I just dont understand how a pro gamer can have such impatience as to not be able to stay in games and see them through to the end. I mean theres a time to leave a game and theres a time to fight on, i mean, how many SC2 games have you seen where a player is "ahead" but ends up losing. It happens all the time. I just dont understand it lol.
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BTW that foriegners still suck idra flame was freaking halarious lol!
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On May 01 2013 01:38 Nekovivie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2013 01:33 sage_francis wrote:
lol i miss good old bw days...
Idra now is just the shadow of himself. Watching his stream more than 30 min is a fucking performance.
Whining about balance constantly, insulting or disrespect almost all players he loses against, calling "awful" players like Byun, calling Demu "a piece of shit" and always leaving when they face off on the ladder, and the list goes on....
When demu is facing very good players like byun on ladder, he will loose like 4-1, but is happy to play against him, wtach all replay in order to understand why he loss, etc... Its for good for him and for viewers.
When idra is facing byun on ladder, he loses 5-0, insults him and all his prime teamates, whines about how it is impossible to beat terran, and stops streaming.
I think Its time for him to retire. That's his image, and it gets him thousands of viewers and a huge fanbase, and shows he is emotionally invested in the game. I'd be more concerned if he showed no interest in losing.
That's not showing an interest in losing. Dodging games vs a teammate so you won't take a loss is interest in losing? Or blaming game balance instead of his own mistakes is an interest in losing? Idra clearly has no passion for the game and if he was on another team that wasn't paying the salary EG is paying him, he'd be out.
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Yeah Rekrul was bawss to da max lol.
but I tought the title was Idra the long road to.... irrelevancy. lol
dunno why I would imagine that hey?
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He has less than half the viewers of Demuslim. He's not even close to the #1 guy in EG anymore in terms of viewers, let alone skill.
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On May 01 2013 05:10 matiK23 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2013 01:38 Nekovivie wrote:On May 01 2013 01:33 sage_francis wrote:
lol i miss good old bw days...
Idra now is just the shadow of himself. Watching his stream more than 30 min is a fucking performance.
Whining about balance constantly, insulting or disrespect almost all players he loses against, calling "awful" players like Byun, calling Demu "a piece of shit" and always leaving when they face off on the ladder, and the list goes on....
When demu is facing very good players like byun on ladder, he will loose like 4-1, but is happy to play against him, wtach all replay in order to understand why he loss, etc... Its for good for him and for viewers.
When idra is facing byun on ladder, he loses 5-0, insults him and all his prime teamates, whines about how it is impossible to beat terran, and stops streaming.
I think Its time for him to retire. That's his image, and it gets him thousands of viewers and a huge fanbase, and shows he is emotionally invested in the game. I'd be more concerned if he showed no interest in losing. That's not showing an interest in losing. Dodging games vs a teammate so you won't take a loss is interest in losing? Or blaming game balance instead of his own mistakes is an interest in losing? Idra clearly has no passion for the game and if he was on another team that wasn't paying the salary EG is paying him, he'd be out.
He has said he enjoys the pro gamer life style. I think he'll continue to play as long as he is either popular or successful enough to fly around to tournaments. I guess he does make a lot of money from EG salary, appearances and streaming as well. And for his post pro gaming career, I think he said he still wanted to stay in the industry.
On May 01 2013 05:13 Lonyo wrote:
He has less than half the viewers of Demuslim. He's not even close to the #1 guy in EG anymore in terms of viewers, let alone skill.
European audiences at the moment and IdrA's streaming without commentary (+terrible music). He still gets very good stream viewers, especially for how much he streams.
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