EPTIdrA - The Long Road to Korea - Page 2
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tuho12345
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Blargh
United States2104 Posts
I do wish we saw the same passion he had back then. ; ( On April 30 2013 06:28 tuho12345 wrote: 7 out of 14 tourneys made him a foreigner's bonjwa ? Winning 50% of tournaments is incredibly good consistency for a game like SC (BW or WoL). | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17750 Posts
On April 30 2013 06:29 Blargh wrote: I wonder what Idra would be like if he had started WoL playing Terran. Just think, instead of Morrow, it could have been HIM doing the mass reaper vs zerg early game. I actually think it'd be really interesting to see how well Idra would have done if he had been Terran. I do wish we saw the same passion he had back then. ; ( Winning 50% of tournaments is incredibly good consistency for a game like SC (BW or WoL). Idra is not very good at cheese, so no I don't think he could've pulled off the 5rax reaper lol | ||
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nkr
Sweden5451 Posts
On April 30 2013 06:30 Die4Ever wrote: Idra is not very good at cheese, so no I don't think he could've pulled off the 5rax reaper lol it wasn't even very cheesy, you expoed behind it :D | ||
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KvltMan
Sweden1609 Posts
On April 30 2013 06:28 tuho12345 wrote: 7 out of 14 tourneys made him a foreigner's bonjwa ? JWD did a good job of summarizing IdrA's results in non-Korean events in this blog. I think that his overall mapscore against non-Koreans should speak for his dominance alone. "IdrA's record across these matches is 81-24 (80%)." | ||
Shellshock
United States97277 Posts
On April 30 2013 06:31 nkr wrote: it wasn't even very cheesy, you expoed behind it :D He probably still wouldnt have done it. I think it was an interview with Artosis, but not 100% sure, but I remember someone saying IdrA started off sc2 as a protoss but he refused to 4gate so he had like a 0% win rate in PvP because everyone would just 4 gate him and he would die. I could see him refusing to 5 rax reaper | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On April 30 2013 06:31 nkr wrote: it wasn't even very cheesy, you expoed behind it :D Wait, so if I 5 gate and build a nexus behind it, its not cheese? One minute, I need to get back to the ladder. | ||
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kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
On April 30 2013 06:32 KvltMan wrote: JWD did a good job of summarizing IdrA's results in non-Korean events in this blog. I think that his overall mapscore against non-Koreans should speak for his dominance alone. "IdrA's record across these matches is 81-24 (80%)." Doing a quick count, I see that he won 23 series out of 25 series. That's pretty dominating. I can't see how you can argue with that even if you don't like him personally, tuho12345. | ||
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nkr
Sweden5451 Posts
On April 30 2013 06:33 Plansix wrote: Wait, so if I 5 gate and build a nexus behind it, its not cheese? One minute, I need to get back to the ladder. there was no risk to it, since there was no point where you wouldnt do damage if you do a 5gate there's a big chance it won't work ;P | ||
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m0ck
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kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
On April 30 2013 06:37 m0ck wrote: Hopefully this will remind people of good memories of Idra, because the way he is being bullied at the moment, regardless of his own part in the situation, is pretty vile. He is a human being, goddammit. But... it's your namesake! | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On April 30 2013 06:32 KvltMan wrote: JWD did a good job of summarizing IdrA's results in non-Korean events in this blog. I think that his overall mapscore against non-Koreans should speak for his dominance alone. "IdrA's record across these matches is 81-24 (80%)." There's no doubt that Idra was the strongest foreigner in the years leading up to SC2, but calling him a Bonjwa is probably too much. The fact he was unable to win a TSL despite being a favourite for both seasons really hurts any claim to 'bonjwa' status. There were also events like the showmatch against F91 which he lost 2-5 that were very public and detrimental to the image of an unbeatable foreigner. That said, it doesn't detract from the article nor should it detract from the fact that Idra was incredibly good at this game and is worthy of praise for his skill. + Show Spoiler [blast from the past] + ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Plexa/broodsport_1/bannersmall.png) | ||
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Comogury
United States412 Posts
On April 30 2013 06:11 Jaaaaasper wrote: Read my second sentence maybe? I didn't say that grr didn't get mentioned, I said he didn't get enough credit Stop being uptight. This article isn't about grrr. | ||
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Malpractice.248
United States734 Posts
Even if he doesnt always shine as a person, hes a good player. | ||
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
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Synche
United States1345 Posts
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On April 30 2013 06:37 m0ck wrote: Hopefully this will remind people of good memories of Idra, because the way he is being bullied at the moment, regardless of his own part in the situation, is pretty vile. He is a human being, goddammit. bullied? | ||
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
He will be known as the one who dominated amateur tournaments as a draftee from Estro/CJ, beat Yellow and make Tossgirl cry, however he will not be foreigner known to win Starleague, beat Savior, or Midas. Those were achievements of other. The let-down element was a persistent element of his career, and continues onward, his view of the game has not changed despite falling so many times, to the very same mistakes. He has never opened his heart to the creativity, open-mindness and such and because of that i could never truly respect him, because of his incredibly narrow view. However such tragic heroes are always the ones that give the most to the scene for the better or worse, he is the one of the most popular foreigners and nothing will change that (see his fanclub). | ||
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unkkz
Norway2196 Posts
On April 30 2013 06:41 Malpractice.248 wrote: I do think idra deserves more respect, as a player. Even if he doesnt always shine as a person, hes a good player. He is a good player and he isn´t. I say isn't because the potential is there but his overall attitude towards the game is so goddamn toxic. Balance whine constantly everytime he plays, whines that his opponent is bad etc. Look at pro football, or soccer to u americans. Paris Saint Germaine full of sick players have to focus like hell sometimes to beat some crap teams. It´s really hard playing vs someone knowing you are better, it makes you take risks etc. And he does this all the time, not knowing he´s better i suppose but thinking it. The day he learns to handle himself for others but also for himself, is the day he will start winning shit. And then he will be respected. Can't live on old accomplishments alone. Currently he´s a mid tier pro that flames a lot. | ||
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LTY
United States223 Posts
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