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On April 26 2013 10:32 Alryk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 10:29 Stealthypoo wrote:On April 26 2013 10:12 .kv wrote:i'm happy for new maps but this one ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ahdPU3X.jpg) no please lol I agree this map looks particularly terrible. plz tell me that this is just Blizzard pranking us.. omfg.. I don't have enough vetos at all.. T_T Blizzard wasn't the only one making the maps, tournament makers had a say too 
Yeah, that's true. At least Blizzard is moving in the right direction by seeking some community guidance.
But there's still room for improvement. Blizzard really needs a group of both pro-gamers and tournament makers who could evaluate maps in their potential for entertaining games & relative balance.
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Klontas is instant veto no question lol.
Not sure about Zerus, I guess Swarm Host could be good on that map if you take control of the center.
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On April 26 2013 11:28 Qwyn wrote: Well, these maps are all easily downvotes for me (except for the space platform one, maybe - I'd prefer that over Shit Station). What the fuck has gotten into their heads that they make 3 bases (and even 4 on that Zerus map) so fucking easy to take.
Really Blizzard?
When are you going to let the community make all the ladder maps? This is just another disappointment.
because its incredibly bad for toss to have 3rds which are not defendable? 2-base all ins are quite forseeable and can be hold when scouted quite easily + having to all in every game on maps like neo planet s is really great..... wtf
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On April 26 2013 11:26 BiG wrote: i dont get why people want balanced or near-balanced maps removed... daybreak was a perfectly fine map, now we get klontas for it? yeah great.
seriously how is there supposed to be any map-balance, when ppl always cry about wanting to have "innovative" maps, which just favor some race in some matchups quite heavily.
Because having the same map in the pool for 19482934829345 months gets reaaaaaaaaally boring.
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On April 26 2013 11:33 KrazyTrumpet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 11:26 BiG wrote: i dont get why people want balanced or near-balanced maps removed... daybreak was a perfectly fine map, now we get klontas for it? yeah great.
seriously how is there supposed to be any map-balance, when ppl always cry about wanting to have "innovative" maps, which just favor some race in some matchups quite heavily. Because having the same map in the pool for 19482934829345 months gets reaaaaaaaaally boring.
not for me + having bad maps is really great for esports, right?
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On April 26 2013 11:34 BiG wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 11:33 KrazyTrumpet wrote:On April 26 2013 11:26 BiG wrote: i dont get why people want balanced or near-balanced maps removed... daybreak was a perfectly fine map, now we get klontas for it? yeah great.
seriously how is there supposed to be any map-balance, when ppl always cry about wanting to have "innovative" maps, which just favor some race in some matchups quite heavily. Because having the same map in the pool for 19482934829345 months gets reaaaaaaaaally boring. not for me + having bad maps is really great for esports, right?
Most people like variety. Doing the same thing gets really old after a while. Also, I love people calling a map bad without having even had any games played on it yet...lol. Armchair mapmakers here in this thread
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On April 26 2013 11:31 BiG wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 11:28 Qwyn wrote: Well, these maps are all easily downvotes for me (except for the space platform one, maybe - I'd prefer that over Shit Station). What the fuck has gotten into their heads that they make 3 bases (and even 4 on that Zerus map) so fucking easy to take.
Really Blizzard?
When are you going to let the community make all the ladder maps? This is just another disappointment. because its incredibly bad for toss to have 3rds which are not defendable? 2-base all ins are quite forseeable and can be hold when scouted quite easily + having to all in every game on maps like neo planet s is really great..... wtf There's a difference between a map with balanced 3rd base and derp automatic 3rd bases.
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Why can't Blizzard sync the ladder map pool with the tournament map pool? Why does there have to be a separate set of maps for ladder? Does anyone involved with maps at Blizzard have even slightest clue what they are doing?
It's so goddamn frustrating and such an easy, simple fix.
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Hmm yeah now that people mentioned it, why not replace Star Station as well? Almost everyone agrees it's not a good map.
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Love the looks of the new maps. Don't know why people are instantly hating on Green Goo LE, other than it being a little bland, it looks like a fun map that will foster some innovative play and/or games.
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they also need to remove star station and whirlwild edit: and planet s
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Klontas Mire looks absolutely awful, Blizzard promoting the current ladder fashion for 2-base all-ins again. And why remove Daybreak, it was a great map at pretty much all stages of the game. Sad that we still don't really have any long-term balanced maps that can stay on the ladder for more than a few seasons, but then we don't even have a properly balanced game yet (and won't until Legacy of the Void meta stabilises) so I guess we're at the whim of Blizzard on this.
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On April 26 2013 11:34 BiG wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 11:33 KrazyTrumpet wrote:On April 26 2013 11:26 BiG wrote: i dont get why people want balanced or near-balanced maps removed... daybreak was a perfectly fine map, now we get klontas for it? yeah great.
seriously how is there supposed to be any map-balance, when ppl always cry about wanting to have "innovative" maps, which just favor some race in some matchups quite heavily. Because having the same map in the pool for 19482934829345 months gets reaaaaaaaaally boring. not for me + having bad maps is really great for esports, right?
You don't know the map is bad yet, you arent an expert.
The variety is good for the ladder and good for the esports scene in general because it provides variety for the viewer.
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On April 26 2013 11:40 ROOTT1 wrote: they also need to remove star station and whirlwild edit: and planet s
i agree except for whirlwind. map's fine imo
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On April 26 2013 11:40 ROOTT1 wrote: they also need to remove star station and whirlwild edit: and planet s
StarStation can favour Terran cos the forward positioning on the 3rd but there's no reason at all the other 2 maps should be removed.
- Alot of downvotes on Klontas, I dont mind it but that huge chasm with the bridge to the north totally ruins it.
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You can always tell the WC3 players by their desire to play the same map for a decade.
These map changes look nice. Klontas Mire instantly looks like the weird one but I'm actually excited to immediately try some builds that ought to work better on it than on a typical map.
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No more Daybreak! Finally! Map has been there forever. However, Klontas Mire, weird and uncomfortable bases, and way too small.
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At a first glance i dont like these maps, But I will wait until I play them before passing final judgement.
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On April 26 2013 11:57 NonY wrote: You can always tell the WC3 players by their desire to play the same map for a decade.
These map changes look nice. Klontas Mire instantly looks like the weird one but I'm actually excited to immediately try some builds that ought to work better on it than on a typical map.
Ah yes, I hadn't considered the Warcraft 3 variable. Such a shame that map pool has literally NEVER changed since the game's launch.
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Klontas Mire TE, is new and worst version of scrap station instant thumbs down.
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