Klontas Mire is my new favorite map. I just LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE the design of it and how my games have played out so far. Anyone else having really good experiences with this map?

iamcaustic

Canada1509 Posts

May 05 2013 21:39 GMT

#443

So after playing the new maps for a bit, I think I'm gonna have Klontas Mire TE be the one I don't veto. This leaves my veto choices being: Derelict Watcher TE, Zerus Prime TE, and Star Station.

The terrain layout of Derelict Watcher felt incredibly off to me and Zerus... well, I'm not sure how anyone could enjoy playing on that map, but then again people played on maps like Condemned Ridge. o.o Klontas, while a bit weird, at least flowed well IMO and offers some decent opportunities for things like mech, as some people have noted in this thread.

synd

Bulgaria586 Posts

May 05 2013 21:45 GMT

#444

After a week with the new maps - I can't hold it in me. I JUST HAVE TO VOMIT.
Terrible maps.
I thought Star Station was bad... but this. Oh god....
From the 3 maps - everyone of them is horrible.
They removed Daybreak to add new way worse maps? Good job there, I guess.
Never expected less from Blizzard. AT LEAST THEY HAVE MANY ROCKS,AMIRITE?

Kfish

Chile282 Posts

May 05 2013 22:22 GMT

#445

Klontas Mire reminds me of Scrap Station but instead of having the destructible rocks at the center, we have a small small path.

I liked Scrap Station better, fun fun games

JIJI_

United States123 Posts

May 06 2013 05:12 GMT

#446

Personally I prefer maps that are simple yet fairly balanced.

Maps like klontas or zerus are more complex than say a star station or day break, but as a result people can abuse the terrain to make blink and reaper all-ins way more effective than they should reasonably be. Also maps should not be overly complex and overwhelming - even as a Master's player I am slightly overwhelmed with say a zerus where there are 18 bases it's impossible to keep tabs on what my opponent is doing....I cannot imagine somebody newer to the game enjoying it very much. There is middle ground, but maps can be too big imo....maps like Day Break or Neo planet is constant action which I enjoy and it is possible to constantly scout what your opponent is taking base wise and is much more back and forth rather than take 4 easy bases and then do battle.

I didn't veto any of the new maps, but I am not exactly thrilled with them.

Star station and Neo planet S are my favorite of the current pool.

FCReverie

Australia103 Posts

May 06 2013 19:56 GMT

#447

On May 06 2013 06:00 grumpyone wrote:
After just losing to 2rax proxy reaper on Klontas Mire (as Zerg), I'm just going to say that that map is really good for reapers...

I'd say that Star Station is still the best reaper map though. Close spawns on that map the normal reaper sometimes gets there just as the pool finishes.

RandomAccount#282689

42 Posts

May 06 2013 20:02 GMT

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FCReverie

Australia103 Posts

May 06 2013 20:09 GMT

#449

On May 07 2013 05:02 Jalued wrote:
Does anyone know how to prevent the toss placing proxy pylons on Klontis mire? They can put them behind the rocks (south of the natural) and there is nothing that terran can do about it until warpgate appears...

This map pool is shite...

Can your break down the rocks ahead of time vs a 2 base all in? vs a 1 base all in you should already know it's coming and be prepared because he wont have expanded.

Ben...

Canada3485 Posts

May 06 2013 20:13 GMT

#450

Really not liking this new map pool. Klontas Mire is actually okay but the rest are not fun at all. Zerus is really boring and turtly and Derelict Watcher is way too open, making the popular upgraded ling style even stronger. I kinda wish they didn't remove Newkirk now. I would way rather have that than either of these new maps.

RandomAccount#282689

42 Posts

May 06 2013 20:13 GMT

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FCReverie

Australia103 Posts

May 06 2013 20:19 GMT

#452

On May 07 2013 05:13 Jalued wrote:
You can prepare for it but because of the position of the natural you can only hold on 1 base. I'm sure there are ways to get around it but the entire situation is tiresome and I don't have the patience to play on such a stupid map

Yeah it's a shame terran buildings can't fly away if they are in a bad spot vs a 1 base all in :/ Even if you can't hold the base you can float it out, save the scvs and when they go to expo push back out.

RandomAccount#282689

42 Posts

May 06 2013 20:21 GMT

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AKomrade

United States582 Posts

May 06 2013 20:30 GMT

#454

Klontas Mire is mindbogglingly bad. And that Watcher (SS template) map makes no sense. Can't wait until the TL map tournament finishes.

Baum

Germany1010 Posts

May 07 2013 14:31 GMT

#455

Gosh these new maps are so bad. It really annoys the shit out of me how Blizzard is making it look like they are trying to make tournament level maps now but what they are actually doing is making the same shitty maps as before. Maybe it's going to be even worse because they will force WCS organizers to use those maps in their tournament. Why are we still not having a solid system of implementing community made maps in the ladder pool?

Lorch

Germany3683 Posts

May 07 2013 14:34 GMT

#456

So I have decided that zerus and the green one are two of the worst maps I have played on since blizzard added like 4 of their shitty maps (including a really terrible 4 player fire map) way way back in 2011. Now all I have to choose is whether I veto star station or the new map with the same tileset, which has the worst designed map center I have seen in a long time. Oh well I guess I'll have to start practicing 2 base allins again for star station, because the 3 other ones are so fucking bad I'll never ever want to play on them again.

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