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On September 11 2013 23:30 zul wrote:
it will go like this:
1. cash in money from the die-hard Jaedong fans
2. release it on youtube (after some time) and make more money from the casuals
Please dont get me wrong - I dont think this is bad, but just the way to make the most money. The release on youtube (or a similar platform) will be unavoidable, because further or later it will leak in some way. It is best for the creators to be the ones in charge, tho they can profit from it.
Just watched it yesterday on swedish national television called SVT. SVT has a documentary series called DOX, where State of Play has a showing. Maybe this is unique, I dont know, but I would not call that milking money from JD fans.
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On September 11 2013 21:24 SixStrings wrote:
What? I'm supposed to pay 10 USD for a Starcraft documentary?
That much money pays for a seat in an actual cinema for any movie I'd care to see.
Seriously? You pay more for most blurays/dvds and certainly for any album cd. I say it's a fair price for 4 years of hard work.
Great documentary.
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I watched it on TV last night as well. I think it's a nice story about three people and that part is very well made. However, it never really asks any bigger questions or reflects on the pro-scene in general. They never discuss in-depth the generational demands in Korea between parents of progamers and progamers themselves, or the situation where B-teamers are free labour and "practice slaves" to A-teamers. So while it is very well made in the sense that you get a beautiful portrait of three people's (and a fourth, sort of, a fangirl of Jaedong) lives it doesn't really say anything about the big picture as a whole.
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Is God in the documentary?
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I understand the concern for not wanting to pay (who doesn't, really?) but since that is legitimately not an option, as far as I'm aware, I just posted in my local Starcraft group on facebook to see if anyone wants to split the cost in half or thirds with me. This makes the price much more workable for me, thought I'd suggest as much to all of you 
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On September 12 2013 03:43 Gendo wrote:
Is God in the documentary?
There is a glance or two of Bisu, yes.
: )
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On September 12 2013 03:45 Lumi wrote:I understand the concern for not wanting to pay (who doesn't, really?) but since that is legitimately not an option, as far as I'm aware, I just posted in my local Starcraft group on facebook to see if anyone wants to split the cost in half or thirds with me. This makes the price much more workable for me, thought I'd suggest as much to all of you
Yeah, that 10 dollar fee is such a hassle. lol.
On a side note I'm watching it right now and I'm enjoying it a lot so far (around 15 minutes or so in). I'll write some more later once I'm finished.
edit: Really touching...I know exactly what it feels to be like Yo Han (the amateur). Overall I really enjoyed the watch, definitely worth the money. Finally an esports documentary that actually was executed fairly well. I'm sure a lot of work went into it, I kinda wished I could see some gameplay but that's really not what the point of this was anyway.
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On September 12 2013 03:46 Heartland wrote:There is a glance or two of Bisu, yes. : )
Well played.
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On September 12 2013 03:23 lookfirewood wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2013 23:30 zul wrote:
it will go like this:
1. cash in money from the die-hard Jaedong fans
2. release it on youtube (after some time) and make more money from the casuals
Please dont get me wrong - I dont think this is bad, but just the way to make the most money. The release on youtube (or a similar platform) will be unavoidable, because further or later it will leak in some way. It is best for the creators to be the ones in charge, tho they can profit from it. Just watched it yesterday on swedish national television called SVT. SVT has a documentary series called DOX, where State of Play has a showing. Maybe this is unique, I dont know, but I would not call that milking money from JD fans.
It was kind of bizarre to see a big photo of team 8 when I opened up SVT play yesterday lol. I had no idea they were gonna show it.
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On September 11 2013 21:39 StarBrift wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2013 11:21 blade55555 wrote:On September 11 2013 11:02 Zenbrez wrote:On September 11 2013 09:46 Maeldun wrote:
lol, i stopped watching when that guy's father said "your brain is not very good" Really? Jesus. Yeah the conversation goes "You have to be really smart to do good at those games". "So you don't think I am smart?" silence then "your brain is not very good". Like that is amazingly blunt can only imagine how he felt xD If you watch the whole thing it's very clear that his father is just messing with him. The entire family is laughing about it including the kid later in the documentary.
No, he is not messing with him. Thats how koreans are, straight up and harsh. If you are ugly, they will tell you that you are ugly. And kids get insane amount of pressure from their parents at a young age. Korea has the biggest suicide rate in the world for a reason.
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On September 12 2013 03:57 TylerThaCreator wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 03:45 Lumi wrote:I understand the concern for not wanting to pay (who doesn't, really?) but since that is legitimately not an option, as far as I'm aware, I just posted in my local Starcraft group on facebook to see if anyone wants to split the cost in half or thirds with me. This makes the price much more workable for me, thought I'd suggest as much to all of you Yeah, that 10 dollar fee is such a hassle. lol. On a side note I'm watching it right now and I'm enjoying it a lot so far (around 15 minutes or so in). I'll write some more later once I'm finished.
If it wasn't a hassle for me, then why would I be going through these efforts? That's the kind of dickish remark you wouldn't make to someone IRL, because you'd remember to be decent.
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On September 11 2013 11:21 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2013 11:02 Zenbrez wrote:On September 11 2013 09:46 Maeldun wrote:
lol, i stopped watching when that guy's father said "your brain is not very good" Really? Jesus. Yeah the conversation goes "You have to be really smart to do good at those games". "So you don't think I am smart?" silence then "your brain is not very good". Like that is amazingly blunt can only imagine how he felt xD
My post was very unclear so I guess I could clarify now. I meant I was surprised that he stopped watching at that part. Seems kind of stupid to me, but to each their own.
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what a great documentary. buy it, watch it, support it! more of a fan of jd than ever. long live the dong!
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Can't complain about 10 bucks for a professional, interesting documentary and next to that you're supporting ESPORTS.
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Seeing as its free for swedes I'll give it a try
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On September 12 2013 04:09 Thorin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 03:46 Heartland wrote:On September 12 2013 03:43 Gendo wrote:
Is God in the documentary? There is a glance or two of Bisu, yes. : ) Well played.
Nooooo! TT
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On September 12 2013 06:12 dextrin303 wrote:
Seeing as its free for swedes I'll give it a try
It was ok.
Too many shots of sleeping koreans though. Too many superflous shots overall. They couldve edited down the documentary about 20 minutes or so and gotten an easier viewing without any content lost.
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Well this doc just end up aggravating me. We pretty much saw Jaedong's old confident self when MBC still existed and then we get a glimpse of his fall from grace into a docile mortal.
And then we got to see ProLeague filled with people in 2011 which depresses the shit out of any SC fans.
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the guy said he was trying to get it on netflix ^.^
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