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dvorakftw
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
681 Posts
May 01 2013 21:59 GMT
#481
I think the idea mentioned last ItG about having 2 or 4 spots for community fan vote could be great for the next one.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
May 02 2013 00:12 GMT
#482
On May 02 2013 06:59 dvorakftw wrote:
I think the idea mentioned last ItG about having 2 or 4 spots for community fan vote could be great for the next one.


I think people should earn their spots rather than get in just by being popular.
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 02 2013 00:13 GMT
#483
On May 02 2013 09:12 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 06:59 dvorakftw wrote:
I think the idea mentioned last ItG about having 2 or 4 spots for community fan vote could be great for the next one.


I think people should earn their spots rather than get in just by being popular.


This times 1000 please keep that we have enough invite tournaments as there are
When I think of something else, something will go here
hellokittySC2
Profile Joined September 2009
United States395 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 03:24:04
May 02 2013 02:38 GMT
#484
On May 02 2013 09:13 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 09:12 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On May 02 2013 06:59 dvorakftw wrote:
I think the idea mentioned last ItG about having 2 or 4 spots for community fan vote could be great for the next one.


I think people should earn their spots rather than get in just by being popular.


This times 1000 please keep that we have enough invite tournaments as there are

edit: wrote it while i'm on monster energy drinks.
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Geos13
Profile Joined May 2011
437 Posts
May 02 2013 02:49 GMT
#485
This tournament looks awesome! This is what I am most excited for in SC2 right now. I wish I hadn't gone to sleep at midnight and missed the last minute Vibe entry.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
May 02 2013 03:10 GMT
#486
On May 02 2013 06:59 dvorakftw wrote:
I think the idea mentioned last ItG about having 2 or 4 spots for community fan vote could be great for the next one.

That's not a good idea long term. Better to make the current top players popular than giving has-beens free passes into the spotlight just because they'll get more viewers in the short term.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
kheldorin
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore539 Posts
May 02 2013 03:20 GMT
#487
On May 02 2013 12:10 NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 06:59 dvorakftw wrote:
I think the idea mentioned last ItG about having 2 or 4 spots for community fan vote could be great for the next one.

That's not a good idea long term. Better to make the current top players popular than giving has-beens free passes into the spotlight just because they'll get more viewers in the short term.


It's easier and faster to make current top players popular by having them beat popular "has-beens" than if they beat another relatively unknown player.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 03:27:09
May 02 2013 03:21 GMT
#488
On May 02 2013 11:38 hellokittySC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 09:13 blade55555 wrote:
On May 02 2013 09:12 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On May 02 2013 06:59 dvorakftw wrote:
I think the idea mentioned last ItG about having 2 or 4 spots for community fan vote could be great for the next one.


I think people should earn their spots rather than get in just by being popular.


This times 1000 please keep that we have enough invite tournaments as there are

then actually win games and get up the ladder rank so you won't complain about it.

edit: the qualification Is Laddering.


Uh I was agreeing with him about invites? I know the qualification is laddering... Not sure where you misread my post but I said this is a good thing and that he SHOULDN'T do invites by fan votes or anything.

I don't know where you got I was complaining about it please re-read my post about what I was thanking him for. I didnt' even try to ladder on NA much because I played mainly on kr and when this was announced I didn't have enough time due to work/school to attempt it. I hope they do a ladder thing again this season or qualifiers either work for me (assuming this happens again). Either way I am definitely going to ladder more on NA this season as last season I just did enough to keep me GM ^_^.
When I think of something else, something will go here
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26512 Posts
May 02 2013 03:26 GMT
#489
That lineup actually turned out pretty well!

I've always found it pretty interesting just how many Asian-Americans are top tier at SC in NA, especially compared to a lot of other ethnicities.
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Spidinko
Profile Joined May 2010
Slovakia1174 Posts
May 02 2013 09:00 GMT
#490
It's very interesting to see how much the NA scene has changed. You wouldn't even know about it because every tournament has invites of old school known guys and Koreans qualify.

And now when we get a tournament for top NA players people are complaining because they don't know them.
That kind of shows you how Koreans are ruining NA scene.
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
May 02 2013 09:05 GMT
#491
On May 02 2013 06:59 dvorakftw wrote:
I think the idea mentioned last ItG about having 2 or 4 spots for community fan vote could be great for the next one.

That would destroy the pupose of the tournament and AM would continue to follow around people who are not the best in their region anymore, like they are doing too much already anyways.
heartlxp
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1258 Posts
May 02 2013 18:43 GMT
#492
On May 02 2013 18:00 Spidinko wrote:
It's very interesting to see how much the NA scene has changed. You wouldn't even know about it because every tournament has invites of old school known guys and Koreans qualify.

And now when we get a tournament for top NA players people are complaining because they don't know them.
That kind of shows you how Koreans are ruining NA scene.


rofl that last sentence kinda came outta nowhere, or maybe there's simple logic i'm missing
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 02 2013 18:47 GMT
#493
On May 02 2013 09:12 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 06:59 dvorakftw wrote:
I think the idea mentioned last ItG about having 2 or 4 spots for community fan vote could be great for the next one.


I think people should earn their spots rather than get in just by being popular.

Yes 10000x. I think this was one of the biggest problems with WCS. I know they were restricted by time to get it starting, but I would have liked to see less invites and more players through qualifiers (even if they did like a points system from the qualifiers like TSL). Thanks for making such a cool tournament, TotalBiscuit.
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
May 02 2013 18:59 GMT
#494
On May 02 2013 12:20 kheldorin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 12:10 NonY wrote:
On May 02 2013 06:59 dvorakftw wrote:
I think the idea mentioned last ItG about having 2 or 4 spots for community fan vote could be great for the next one.

That's not a good idea long term. Better to make the current top players popular than giving has-beens free passes into the spotlight just because they'll get more viewers in the short term.


It's easier and faster to make current top players popular by having them beat popular "has-beens" than if they beat another relatively unknown player.

Yeah, I don't think the idea that using celebrity for immediate results is controversial. The more interesting discussion is about what kind of content is best for the future.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42384 Posts
May 02 2013 21:15 GMT
#495
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 02 2013 21:20 GMT
#496
all those team kills O_o
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Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
May 02 2013 21:33 GMT
#497
On May 01 2013 23:26 Fischbacher wrote:
Looking forward to this tournament. The line-up is light on fan favourites but it gives us a chance to see more up and comers which is nice.


People always say that they want to see new blood in the scene so lets see if that is actually true or not.
BeyondCtrL
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden642 Posts
May 02 2013 21:34 GMT
#498
On May 03 2013 03:59 NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 12:20 kheldorin wrote:
On May 02 2013 12:10 NonY wrote:
On May 02 2013 06:59 dvorakftw wrote:
I think the idea mentioned last ItG about having 2 or 4 spots for community fan vote could be great for the next one.

That's not a good idea long term. Better to make the current top players popular than giving has-beens free passes into the spotlight just because they'll get more viewers in the short term.


It's easier and faster to make current top players popular by having them beat popular "has-beens" than if they beat another relatively unknown player.

Yeah, I don't think the idea that using celebrity for immediate results is controversial. The more interesting discussion is about what kind of content is best for the future.


There is no arguing here with NonY, not if you are actually interested in the actual development of the scene.

You can't create a healthy scene in the long term if the community wants their drama favorites to show up, it might be good for making money on TV, but it's catastrophic for a competitive environment. The community is entitled to their own favorites, but deciding tournament rosters for something deeply based on skill is just wrong on so many levels I cannot even begin to think about. What's next, kicking players out of tournaments they qualify for because community can vote out a player? Leave this kind of crap for crappy reality TV shows.

If you want to see has-beens get beaten by random/new/upcoming players then there are some streams that you can find that offer what you want.
Kineticwing
Profile Joined February 2013
Australia9 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 21:41:56
May 02 2013 21:36 GMT
#499
On May 03 2013 06:20 Shellshock1122 wrote:
all those team kills O_o


Isn't this the GSL group stage format so 2 get out. This means only Root players in group A have anything to worry about (theoritically). But it could get ugly.





Edit: I hate you shift key....
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
May 02 2013 21:44 GMT
#500
Really interesting groups, will create some interesting story lines . Glad I didn't get Group C, all 4 of those players are really good haha.
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