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On May 03 2013 06:33 Bowzar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2013 23:26 Fischbacher wrote:
Looking forward to this tournament. The line-up is light on fan favourites but it gives us a chance to see more up and comers which is nice. People always say that they want to see new blood in the scene so lets see if that is actually true or not.
I'll only be watching because of Husky and TB casting, then eventually Day9. If anyone else was casting this, I doubt it would have the same draw that Cynical Brit has. Luckily Cynical Brit is in a position to benefit the community and put on a good show.
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On May 02 2013 09:12 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 06:59 dvorakftw wrote:
I think the idea mentioned last ItG about having 2 or 4 spots for community fan vote could be great for the next one. I think people should earn their spots rather than get in just by being popular.
Would it help if the statement is amended to add a requirement such as being in the top 50 or 100 eligible which I sort of took for granted?
Edit to add: Also, I would argue and would be surprised if you disagree that popularity, in eSports at least, is earned. Certainly we could all pick some players we think deserve to be more popular and others deserve to be less popular but still.
It's certainly respectable to have the pure qualifications, but as mentioned it helps overall to maximize hype potential. Players campaigning for votes gives you free advertising, encourages player/fan interactions, etc., adds a storyline, and if/when unknown players win against them it's an extra notable achievement.
Of course there would be a downside or two, such as IdrA shrugging off deadline on the assumption he could get voted in (added while I do the edit above: Then again imagine iNcontroL vs IdrA trying to get voted in) so adding invites isn't all sunshine and kittens but I think from my outsider perspective there is more upside overall. Then again if I'm so smart why don't I have a million YouTube subscribers and the big money....
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On May 03 2013 06:44 goswser wrote:Really interesting groups, will create some interesting story lines  . Glad I didn't get Group C, all 4 of those players are really good haha.
Ya group c is definitely the toughest.
My predictions:
Group A: Maker + Minigun
Group B: goswser + hendralisk
Group C: Kane + Suppy
Group D: qxc + STATE
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On May 03 2013 07:05 rsvp wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2013 06:44 goswser wrote:Really interesting groups, will create some interesting story lines . Glad I didn't get Group C, all 4 of those players are really good haha. Ya group c is definitely the toughest. My predictions: Group A: Maker + Minigun Group B: goswser + hendralisk Group C: Kane + Suppy Group D: qxc + STATE
My predictions:
Group A: Minigun, Vibe
Group B: me, hendralisk
Group C: Kane, Masa
Group D: Qxc, State
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Genna Bain @GennaBain
Map pool for #SHOUTcraft America -- Akilon Wastes LE • Bel’Shir Vestige LE • Neo Planet S • GSL Star Station • Whirlwind LE
Seems like a nice map pool.
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Canada13431 Posts
On May 03 2013 07:05 rsvp wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2013 06:44 goswser wrote:Really interesting groups, will create some interesting story lines . Glad I didn't get Group C, all 4 of those players are really good haha. Ya group c is definitely the toughest. My predictions: Group A: Maker + Minigun Group B: goswser + hendralisk Group C: Kane + Suppy Group D: qxc + STATE
Gotta have the faith dude, go practice 
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Can some one post the alluc website predictions, if possible?
Edit: Spelling
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On May 03 2013 11:35 Kineticwing wrote:
Can some one post the alluc website predictions, if possible?
Edit: Spelling
yeah I got you
+ Show Spoiler [A] + Top 2 1st 2nd 3rd 4th
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Minigun 61.94% 34.11% 27.83% 20.14% 17.92%
LeiYa 58.28% 29.26% 29.02% 22.83% 18.88%
ViBE 42.63% 19.98% 22.65% 27.78% 29.59%
Maker 37.15% 16.65% 20.50% 29.24% 33.60%
+ Show Spoiler [B] + Top 2 1st 2nd 3rd 4th
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goswser 60.38% 30.11% 30.27% 23.48% 16.14%
neeb 54.83% 28.62% 26.21% 23.76% 21.41%
hendralisk 55.10% 27.73% 27.37% 23.89% 21.01%
Drunkenboi 29.69% 13.54% 16.15% 28.86% 41.45%
+ Show Spoiler [C] + Top 2 1st 2nd 3rd 4th
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MaSa 64.63% 34.94% 29.70% 20.01% 15.36%
Suppy 56.08% 28.62% 27.46% 24.66% 19.25%
Kane 52.20% 24.79% 27.41% 25.65% 22.15%
hellokitty 27.08% 11.65% 15.43% 29.68% 43.24%
+ Show Spoiler [D] + Top 2 1st 2nd 3rd 4th
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qxc 66.47% 36.90% 29.56% 18.80% 14.73%
Xenocider 49.65% 23.11% 26.54% 26.45% 23.90%
State 42.95% 21.34% 21.60% 26.13% 30.92%
rsvp 40.94% 18.64% 22.29% 28.61% 30.45%
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Groups are a little weak/easy to see who the top 2 are if you have seen the players play IMO
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On May 03 2013 11:39 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2013 11:35 Kineticwing wrote:
Can some one post the alluc website predictions, if possible?
Edit: Spelling yeah I got you + Show Spoiler [A] + Top 2 1st 2nd 3rd 4th
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Minigun 61.94% 34.11% 27.83% 20.14% 17.92%
LeiYa 58.28% 29.26% 29.02% 22.83% 18.88%
ViBE 42.63% 19.98% 22.65% 27.78% 29.59%
Maker 37.15% 16.65% 20.50% 29.24% 33.60% Top 2 1st 2nd 3rd 4th
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goswser 60.38% 30.11% 30.27% 23.48% 16.14%
neeb 54.83% 28.62% 26.21% 23.76% 21.41%
hendralisk 55.10% 27.73% 27.37% 23.89% 21.01%
Drunkenboi 29.69% 13.54% 16.15% 28.86% 41.45% Top 2 1st 2nd 3rd 4th
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MaSa 64.63% 34.94% 29.70% 20.01% 15.36%
Suppy 56.08% 28.62% 27.46% 24.66% 19.25%
Kane 52.20% 24.79% 27.41% 25.65% 22.15%
hellokitty 27.08% 11.65% 15.43% 29.68% 43.24% Top 2 1st 2nd 3rd 4th
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qxc 66.47% 36.90% 29.56% 18.80% 14.73%
Xenocider 49.65% 23.11% 26.54% 26.45% 23.90%
State 42.95% 21.34% 21.60% 26.13% 30.92%
rsvp 40.94% 18.64% 22.29% 28.61% 30.45%
Woah! Nice and close!
Nothing like some of those WCS AM Groups......
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Wow group b has two FXO terrans, hendralisk, and goswer!?! group of death!!!
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On May 03 2013 15:00 Moosegills wrote:
Wow group b has two FXO terrans, hendralisk, and goswer!?! group of death!!!
nerd chills.
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Drunkenboi is going to win, i'm calling it now!
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On May 03 2013 15:09 lisward wrote:
Drunkenboi is going to win, i'm calling it now!
and then two days later hellbats are removed from the game ! :D
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On May 03 2013 15:19 Moosegills wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2013 15:09 lisward wrote:
Drunkenboi is going to win, i'm calling it now! and then two days later hellbats are removed from the game ! :D
fuck hellbats :D
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On May 03 2013 03:43 heartlxp wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 18:00 Spidinko wrote:
It's very interesting to see how much the NA scene has changed. You wouldn't even know about it because every tournament has invites of old school known guys and Koreans qualify.
And now when we get a tournament for top NA players people are complaining because they don't know them.
That kind of shows you how Koreans are ruining NA scene. rofl that last sentence kinda came outta nowhere, or maybe there's simple logic i'm missing
Yeah I didn't really go into details as this is not the place.
But if you look at most NA tournaments, they invite known players and make a qualifier.
Qualifiers are a great way to get some recognition in the scene. All's good until you realize that basically only Koreans get through those qualifiers and what that means is, that new NA talent doesn't get the recognition it deserves.
Without recognition they have it harder to become known as top NA players and unless they can beat top KR players they don't have very high chances of becoming known.
It can be argued that this leads to players losing incentive which further lowers the quality of the region.
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Fun fact
During Flash vs Parting yesterday I saw only 46k viewers on the Gom stream on Twitch. I think this tournament won't beat that despite better hours, so whoever bet there would be more than 50k concurrents(I think that was Wheat, right?) has a lot of #tagging to do...
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On April 24 2013 18:00 Inimic wrote:
First of all, I <3 the idea. However, I'm looking forward to how you approach:
- the korean smurfs which routinely make top 16 GM, like anonymous.
- the korean non-smurfs who own face, like cShuttle (I think he lives in NA though)
- the European players who ladder on NA sometimes. Is Stephano going to be the Great American Hope (G.A.H.)?
- Idra being allowed to compete, despite his venomous, rude behavior every single day on ladder, and in most tournaments he's in. (I USED to like the guy mind you)
- the map hackers who sometimes make top 16- saw Grubby play against one recently on EU, top GM, extremely obvious about it with horrible micro.
If you can take care of that stuff (maybe minus the Idra point, I guess he's popular or whatever), I'm really looking forward to it!
Maybe read the post, and you will be answered.
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On May 03 2013 17:35 50bani wrote:
Fun fact
During Flash vs Parting yesterday I saw only 46k viewers on the Gom stream on Twitch. I think this tournament won't beat that despite better hours, so whoever bet there would be more than 50k concurrents(I think that was Wheat, right?) has a lot of #tagging to do...
I'd bet my non-existent pride that the RO16 will pull in 30,000. With the finals hitting the 45,000-50,000 mark. Does anyone have the figures of the previous Shoutcraft invitational by any chance?
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EPT
