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YourAdHere
Profile Joined May 2011
United States216 Posts
April 16 2013 20:25 GMT
#61
On April 17 2013 04:58 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
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On April 17 2013 04:57 Waxangel wrote:
If you didnt' vote group 1, then you're probably North American


I don't know man, MajOr is always a wildcard because we barely see any play from him... and HerO isn't that hot these days. :S


Well, MaJOr was probably the best player on NA before he went to Korea to train with a Kespa team so I'm not so sure he's a 'wildcard'
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
April 16 2013 20:31 GMT
#62
On April 17 2013 05:25 YourAdHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 04:58 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:57 Waxangel wrote:
If you didnt' vote group 1, then you're probably North American


I don't know man, MajOr is always a wildcard because we barely see any play from him... and HerO isn't that hot these days. :S


Well, MaJOr was probably the best player on NA before he went to Korea to train with a Kespa team so I'm not so sure he's a 'wildcard'


I've always been a fan of him because of his training ethic and watching his games you can kind of see the same talent that Artosis saw in him from the beginning. The problem is that he hasn't really achieved much when pitted against opponents outside of Mexico/Latin America. So from that standpoint he is very much a wildcard, we won't know if his performance will finally be the breakout or merely underwhelming. :s
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zeratul_jf
Profile Joined October 2011
United States808 Posts
April 16 2013 20:36 GMT
#63
Poor Idra placed in a group vs Polt and then Gowser who has beaten him consistently. And now that ZvZ is muta wars i don't think he stands much of a chance. Hopefully for him the fourth person will be someone easy so he doesnt drop out of the league so quickly.
Empirimancer
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada1024 Posts
April 16 2013 20:39 GMT
#64
On April 17 2013 05:36 zeratul_jf wrote:
Poor Idra placed in a group vs Polt and then Gowser who has beaten him consistently. And now that ZvZ is muta wars i don't think he stands much of a chance. Hopefully for him the fourth person will be someone easy so he doesnt drop out of the league so quickly.


It's ok, Polt is a terrible player according to Idra, so he should be able to beat him.

Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
April 16 2013 20:41 GMT
#65
na playerpool looks weak
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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
April 16 2013 20:48 GMT
#66
On April 17 2013 05:39 Empirimancer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 05:36 zeratul_jf wrote:
Poor Idra placed in a group vs Polt and then Gowser who has beaten him consistently. And now that ZvZ is muta wars i don't think he stands much of a chance. Hopefully for him the fourth person will be someone easy so he doesnt drop out of the league so quickly.


It's ok, Polt is a terrible player according to Idra, so he should be able to beat him.



Yeah because that has gone so well for IdrA in the past...
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
April 16 2013 20:49 GMT
#67
Poor Greg :/
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Pin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States55 Posts
April 16 2013 20:50 GMT
#68
Terrible player has always been the way idra describes people who beat him. When he starts complimenting your play is when you have to start worrying.
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
April 16 2013 20:55 GMT
#69
Looks like really good groups for HerO and Snute. Let's see who will join which groups coming from the qualifiers.
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 16 2013 20:58 GMT
#70
Good group for Illusion. He should have no issues with Maker, and I'd say he's favored against Moonglade as well
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Shebuha
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1335 Posts
April 16 2013 20:59 GMT
#71
On April 17 2013 04:57 Waxangel wrote:
If you didnt' vote group 1, then you're probably North American

I wasn't surprised that group 1 wasn't voted GoD even though it really is.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
April 16 2013 21:02 GMT
#72
On April 17 2013 05:48 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 05:39 Empirimancer wrote:
On April 17 2013 05:36 zeratul_jf wrote:
Poor Idra placed in a group vs Polt and then Gowser who has beaten him consistently. And now that ZvZ is muta wars i don't think he stands much of a chance. Hopefully for him the fourth person will be someone easy so he doesnt drop out of the league so quickly.


It's ok, Polt is a terrible player according to Idra, so he should be able to beat him.



Yeah because that has gone so well for IdrA in the past...


to this day i wonder how idra can have so many fans. he's the total opposite of boxer...does this mean boxer fans and idra fans are total opposites too?
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Gonff
Profile Joined May 2010
United States686 Posts
April 16 2013 21:04 GMT
#73
Group 1 is my group of death. HerO is playing well and Major is scaaary when he's on. Don't know much about KiLLeR's game lately though.
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
April 16 2013 21:25 GMT
#74
Why does everyone think Goswser is so mediocre? He's easily one of the top, if not the top, American player. Easily a favorite over Idra and wouldn't be surprised to see him hold his own against Polt.
Junichi
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1056 Posts
April 16 2013 21:28 GMT
#75
On April 17 2013 05:39 Empirimancer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 05:36 zeratul_jf wrote:
Poor Idra placed in a group vs Polt and then Gowser who has beaten him consistently. And now that ZvZ is muta wars i don't think he stands much of a chance. Hopefully for him the fourth person will be someone easy so he doesnt drop out of the league so quickly.


It's ok, Polt is a terrible player according to Idra, so he should be able to beat him.



I can't remember IdrA saying that. Source?
"Until the very, very top, in almost anything all that matters, is how much work you put in. The only problem is that most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for." - Greg "IdrA" Fields
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
April 16 2013 21:31 GMT
#76
On April 17 2013 06:02 jinorazi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 05:48 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On April 17 2013 05:39 Empirimancer wrote:
On April 17 2013 05:36 zeratul_jf wrote:
Poor Idra placed in a group vs Polt and then Gowser who has beaten him consistently. And now that ZvZ is muta wars i don't think he stands much of a chance. Hopefully for him the fourth person will be someone easy so he doesnt drop out of the league so quickly.


It's ok, Polt is a terrible player according to Idra, so he should be able to beat him.



Yeah because that has gone so well for IdrA in the past...


to this day i wonder how idra can have so many fans. he's the total opposite of boxer...does this mean boxer fans and idra fans are total opposites too?


There's a significant portion of the community that likes rage, bm, etc and idra was the first to capitalize on this and use it to market himself.
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mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 21:33:14
April 16 2013 21:31 GMT
#77
Idra fans are so funny, I don't see how Group 3 is a group of death, a group of death is supposed to be close. If there's 2 players that are clearly have an edge there's no group of death. In this case, most likely scenario says Polt 1st Goswser 2nd place.

Unless a good player comes from the qualifier there's no reason for Group 3 to be considered a group of death.

Group 1 is a much, much closer battle for 2nd place, even group 7 is harder.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
April 16 2013 21:32 GMT
#78
People forget that goswser always beats Polt. He's pretty much Polt's biggest worry out of all the NA players.
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TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
April 16 2013 21:34 GMT
#79
On April 17 2013 06:31 mordk wrote:
Idra fans are so funny, I don't see how Group 3 is a group of death, a group of death is supposed to be close. If there's 2 players that are clearly have an edge there's no group of death. In this case, most likely scenario says Polt 1st Goswser 2nd place.

Unless a good player comes from the qualifier there's no reason for Group 3 to be considered a group of death.

Group 1 is a much, much closer battle for 2nd place, even group 7 is harder.


I think its fair to assume the player from the qualifier will be pretty good. That's usually how it goes anyway.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
April 16 2013 21:39 GMT
#80
On April 17 2013 06:34 TestSubject893 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 06:31 mordk wrote:
Idra fans are so funny, I don't see how Group 3 is a group of death, a group of death is supposed to be close. If there's 2 players that are clearly have an edge there's no group of death. In this case, most likely scenario says Polt 1st Goswser 2nd place.

Unless a good player comes from the qualifier there's no reason for Group 3 to be considered a group of death.

Group 1 is a much, much closer battle for 2nd place, even group 7 is harder.


I think its fair to assume the player from the qualifier will be pretty good. That's usually how it goes anyway.

Still, there are a good number of better candidates for group of death. People overrate Idra's chances.
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