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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On April 11 2013 11:53 L0L wrote: Nothing wrong with betting on matches. It's no different than sports betting. Match fixing is a whole different thing... Yeah, but when the money you can gain from match-fixing a couple of high profile showmatches is larger than your yearly salary, it's almost a guarantee that someone will abuse it. | ||
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bongling
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BotD
United States136 Posts
On April 11 2013 11:41 phodacbiet wrote:Sure it does. Say we put 50k on player A to play player B. Then the broker or whoever tell player A to lose and he will give player A 25k. Then player A lose on purpose and we're out 50k while player A and whoever he made the deal with gained 25k each. The OP for this thread isn't talking about spectators betting on the outcome of a match, he's talking about pros putting their own money up against each other in a boX, showing ads or selling subscriptions, and splitting the stream revenue between the two players as a way for them to generate hype/income outside of regular ladder streams or major tournaments. | ||
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
But this is hypothetical anyway, Blizzard would shut it down fast and hard. | ||
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CarlosOmse
Germany507 Posts
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Imperfect1987
United States558 Posts
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DusTerr
2520 Posts
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zhurai
United States5660 Posts
On April 11 2013 12:03 WolfintheSheep wrote: Yeah, but when the money you can gain from match-fixing a couple of high profile showmatches is larger than your yearly salary, it's almost a guarantee that someone will abuse it. just because something might influence someone to abuse it doesn't mean it's "no different from x" | ||
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PredY
Czech Republic1731 Posts
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Lukeeze[zR]
Switzerland6838 Posts
On April 11 2013 16:50 DusTerr wrote: Fuzer vs someone (harstem?) happened recently (for $200 iirc). Ziktomini | ||
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DusTerr
2520 Posts
thanks! | ||
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bduddy
United States1326 Posts
On April 11 2013 11:41 phodacbiet wrote: But having bets between people playing a match has nothing to do with match-fixing...Sure it does. Say we put 50k on player A to play player B. Then the broker or whoever tell player A to lose and he will give player A 25k. Then player A lose on purpose and we're out 50k while player A and whoever he made the deal with gained 25k each. | ||
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oob
Sweden630 Posts
On April 11 2013 11:33 raybasto wrote: Fighting games have been doing this for years. The things is in the fighting game scene, there are so many offline tournaments and player interaction where you can easily set up money matches in person and observers of the match are free to take on side bets. We dont have enough offline tournaments and bring your own PC tournaments to have the opportunity to do this. $50k money match for Marvel vs Capcom 2 The Smash community also does this alot during tournaments. Although, nothing close to 50k but I like to moneymatch people for like 10 bucks now and then just for fun! | ||
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Daswollvieh
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priestnoob
243 Posts
The people saying this shouldn't be done because of matchfixing are really wrong, due to the fact that the only bets assumed in the OP would be the bets of the 2 players (example: MVP plays vs MC trying to prove he'm better. Both of them shell out 5k, with the winner taking it all. There would be no 3rd party, other than the website involved with transferring the money/setting up the game and none of the 2 would have any reason to lose, unless they didn't care about the money.) As for the ones saying SC2 pro's are too poor for this, I ask, who are you to say this? Do you personally know that most SC2 pro's are too poor to sustain themselves if they lose say 100$ in a month? Even if this is the case, why does it matter? The pro's who don't have the money should simply not play, while the ones who do could (and should) enjoy this service (if it becomes reality, that is). | ||
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BotD
United States136 Posts
On April 11 2013 17:19 Daswollvieh wrote: I would prefer more financial stability over more volatility and I think pro-gamers do too. Really hope this would get banned by Blizzard if it ever started to come up in any big way. This already has precedent in the FGC and if anything building publicity over money matches in SC2 would help its popularity, not hurt it. I'm sure Blizzard wants to keep a hand in any big tournament with sponsors and whatnot, but if pro X wants to put $5k of their own money up against player Y with their own $5k, why would Blizzard want to step in and stop it? If said stream can bring in viewers, who's to say that some of those viewers maybe aren't familiar with SC2 and decide to pick it up afterwards? | ||
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roym899
Germany426 Posts
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Zeon0
Austria2995 Posts
On April 11 2013 09:57 PatchJerk wrote: Which SC2 pros have money to gamble away? The Starcraft scene won't grow out of the player's pocket, it needs advertisers and/or spectators to provide the income. I dislike the idea of mixing gambling and Starcraft. Even if the participants are funding the payout, how can anyone trust the results of a game when the amount of money involved becomes a significant part of someone's income? It seems to me that a secondary betting pool would spring up and become the primary focus of these games. they dont gamble money away, all the money they bet stays in the scene and they add some additional one from the stream revenues | ||
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bluQ
Germany1724 Posts
Like the idea. Im always for more grudge in RTS :D 1001 post wew :O | ||
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Santi
Colombia466 Posts
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