On April 11 2013 04:55 Doodsmack wrote: $20 is a big deal to people?
I would be surprised if people stopped complaining over trivial non-sense
I wish people would understand the complaining. Why should NA have to pay for qualifiers when EU/KR don't have to? That's what has me peeved is that MLG wants to charge money because they can where as EU/KR are free qualifiers.
God this thread and people saying stupid things like "people are really complaining about 20$?" just lol jesus you guys are ignorant.
it deters trolls..etc. in an online qualifier, GSL qualifier = offline, which means less of them.. besides, it's their tournament, nobody is forcing anyone to participate if they don't want to pay 20 bucks.
hell, you would pbly still complain if the fee is a penny. christ..
And its not even their $20, that is the best part. People complaining because someone ELSE has to pay $20 to compete in an event, run by a for profit company.
I think you are getting it backwards. They are complaining that they have to pay $20 while participants for other regions do not. It's an understandable sentiment and I don't think anyone can argue that it is fair. It is however, a reasonable request. MLG is the organizer of NA and they make the rules.
I don't think the majority of people complaining in this thread have plans to compete in WSC NA. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
what's the deal with spending the $20, MLG open bracket would cost $70. Granted you got to watch the entire tournament as well but the spectator pass was about 30-35, so you still spent about 40 to play. They practically cut the cost in half for people wanting to compete this is a good thing.
On April 11 2013 04:55 Doodsmack wrote: $20 is a big deal to people?
I would be surprised if people stopped complaining over trivial non-sense
I wish people would understand the complaining. Why should NA have to pay for qualifiers when EU/KR don't have to? That's what has me peeved is that MLG wants to charge money because they can where as EU/KR are free qualifiers.
God this thread and people saying stupid things like "people are really complaining about 20$?" just lol jesus you guys are ignorant.
it deters trolls..etc. in an online qualifier, GSL qualifier = offline, which means less of them.. besides, it's their tournament, nobody is forcing anyone to participate if they don't want to pay 20 bucks.
hell, you would pbly still complain if the fee is a penny. christ..
my eyes hut after reading this post... What do you mean by trolls? low league players? thats fixeable GSL qualifiers get no shows and i'm pretty sure it gets some low league players too, "Their tournament" ? are you serious? this is a Blizzard tournament
How does EG compete in most of these online tourneys living in AZ then? obviously for the LAN mlg events its no issue, but im curious as to how they play in the online portion.
On April 11 2013 06:37 DogDirt wrote: How does EG compete in most of these online tourneys living in AZ then? obviously for the LAN mlg events its no issue, but im curious as to how they play in the online portion.
I don't understand the question. They have the internet in AZ.
On April 11 2013 04:29 EleanorRIgby wrote: WTF EU and KR are free. Why is NA getting fucked over so hard.
and also people saying its just 20$ its a non issue, you can only make that distinction for yourself.
Allow me to clarify $20 is not a non-issue for everyone, but $20 for a registration fee for an online tournament for a video game for pure entertainment value IS a non-issue.
On April 11 2013 06:37 DogDirt wrote: How does EG compete in most of these online tourneys living in AZ then? obviously for the LAN mlg events its no issue, but im curious as to how they play in the online portion.
I don't understand the question. They have the internet in AZ.
From what i can tell(having tried to signup for the free tournaments) Players from AZ, MD, ND CT and VT are unable to register as competitors due to local state laws. Its considered Online gambling
On April 11 2013 06:37 DogDirt wrote: How does EG compete in most of these online tourneys living in AZ then? obviously for the LAN mlg events its no issue, but im curious as to how they play in the online portion.
I don't understand the question. They have the internet in AZ.
From what i can tell(having tried to signup for the free tournaments) Players from AZ, MD, ND CT and VT are unable to register as competitors due to local state laws. Its considered Online gambling
Not sure. If you are really really interested you should pm EG.LectR (one of EGs mangers) to find out.
Why are people focusing on the entry fee? The actual problem is that Koreans are going to destroy everyone and there will be more viewers in the round of 64 than the fucking finals. Until Koreans can only play in the KR quals then the 20 dollar entry fee doesn't really matter because any player actually from NA will get destroyed regardless.
On April 11 2013 07:12 Niyanyo wrote: So... I am in Mexico, how could I play for the North America qualifier when the MLG online events for MLG credits are United States locked!!!
You have to pay the $18.75...this is not an MLG event, and it is stated that anyone can enter, so the rules of USA only do not apply.
I like the $20. If someone is actually serious about such a prestige tournament, they will not bitch about $20. The majority of people who will bitch about this are the people who aren't serious enough and shouldn't play in such a tournament in the first place. EDIT: by prestige, I mean the prize money of course. I don't know how deep in skill this tournament will be compared to Korea.
On April 11 2013 03:07 MLG_Adam wrote: If the qualifier was free to enter a huge % of the matches would be no shows. We want this qualifier to be taken seriously by those wishing to participate.
If thats the sole case adam Why not a $20 registration fee with a $20 refunded once the players have played all their games and keeping $20 if they no-show?
Seems practical. Unless you dont want to admit that youre wanting to profit off of this.
Because imagine having to keep track of everyone's money and trying to refund it all back to people. Seems like a large waste of time to me. And then some people might try and mess the system by saying they didn't get their money back when they really did.(yes dishonest people actually exist everywhere.) Also, last time I checked, MLG is a business. A business that doesn't look to make profit on what they do is a dead business. They shouldn't have to feel the need to tell everyone all the time that they're trying to make a profitable business in Esports. If you want charity then you should go somewhere else because if no one makes money and gives everything for free, then they will disappear and so will the scene.
you got plenty of free tournaments to play on, and in the mlg free ones you get credits for winning.
i dont see the issue here, anyone below mid masters shouldnt be there anyway so if you already won some minitourneys and want to take your chances with the big boys you pay the credits... looks ok for me.
some random. gold guy that only plays ladder doesnt belong wcs, try with free online tourneys first.
On April 11 2013 07:27 Meatloaf wrote: you got plenty of free tournaments to play on, and in the mlg free ones you get credits for winning.
i dont see the issue here, anyone below mid masters shouldnt be there anyway so if you already won some minitourneys and want to take your chances with the big boys you pay the credits... looks ok for me.
some random. gold guy that only plays ladder doesnt belong wcs, try with free online tourneys first.
As i state above, those tournaments are only for US residents, fyi. So, anyone outside the US (canada, mexico, SA, anywhere else) would have to pay. And the most frustration is that NA has a fee, but the others do not.
Something I havent seen discussed, but I would like to give kudos to MLG for is the, basically, offline competition over a week...though as we see from the announced player lists and invites it hasn't deterred players that much, but should give some more thought to those who want to travel to a different region for these. And in the future more should be offline.
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