and also people saying its just 20$ its a non issue, you can only make that distinction for yourself.
I think what most of us are implying is that if $20 is a prohibitive financial issue for you, perhaps esports isn't your biggest problem at the moment.
And what people is argueing is the need of the entry, not how much it affects them monetary wise, specially since we have examples where there is no entrance fee and what MLG_Adam said is a not an issue at all.
On April 11 2013 04:51 Canucklehead wrote: Does anyone know if the main tournament will be streamed live or just casted live from replays? I assume replays probably to make sure no one stream cheats.
Looks like replays from the schedule. The qualifiers itself is Apr 20-21 but the broadcasts are Apr 22-25. I
On April 11 2013 04:51 Canucklehead wrote: Does anyone know if the main tournament will be streamed live or just casted live from replays? I assume replays probably to make sure no one stream cheats.
Looks like replays from the schedule. The qualifiers itself is Apr 20-21 but the broadcasts are Apr 22-25. I
Oh I don't mean the qualifiers itself. I mean the code s matches once we have our 32 players.
On April 11 2013 04:35 kukarachaa wrote: Terrible decision, even if there are a decent number of no shows, there still will always be some games going to stream, viewing public wont suffer one bit. And for people saying 20$ is nothing, look at it this way you wouldn't just randomly set it a 20$ bill on fire, and this is exactly what MLG is asking a bunch of people to do, because in reality only 20-30 people have any chance of qualifying.
you wouldn't randomly set a $20 bill on fire, and that's exactly the point, they don't want a random scrub to just randomly sign up because they can. If you are serious about SC2, you would save 1 dollar per day for 20 days.
If you are serious about SC2 you would know that only about 20 people can win, everyone else is in essence random scrubs.
On April 11 2013 04:55 Doodsmack wrote: $20 is a big deal to people?
Seriously. I use to pay 5-15 dollars on weekly fighting game tournaments. Playing with money on the line is more fun, and you do take your performance more seriously. This $20 fee isn't shit, especially for a chance or get to experience the "big one".
People seem to be missing the bigger picture, from my understanding, this means MLG will only be giving 8 spots (on the premier level) to the (30?) or so Koreans who were just announced to join NA WCS instead of KR.
Is it correct that now these Koreans who chose WCS NA have to compete for 8 Spots? Did they know this before they chose NA? Seems like some of them going to be regretting their choice.
DJWheat posted on twitter earlier today that he'd fund 4 people for the qualifier:
djWHEAT @djWHEAT 2h I will gladly fund 4 TRUE NA citizens for the NA #WCS Qualifier. Hit me up.
I'll also fund 2 people. If you're currently a GM on NA and can't afford the $20, send me a PM. I'm at work right now, but first 2 that contact me and I verify later tonight, I'll paypal the $20.
EDIT: Both gone now, good luck to the two that took me up on the offer.
and also people saying its just 20$ its a non issue, you can only make that distinction for yourself.
I think what most of us are implying is that if $20 is a prohibitive financial issue for you, perhaps esports isn't your biggest problem at the moment.
And what people is argueing is the need of the entry, not how much it affects them monetary wise, specially since we have examples where there is no entrance fee and what MLG_Adam said is a not an issue at all.
$20 is completely reasonable fee. Players are just complaining because they don't want to pay.
On April 11 2013 04:35 kukarachaa wrote: Terrible decision, even if there are a decent number of no shows, there still will always be some games going to stream, viewing public wont suffer one bit. And for people saying 20$ is nothing, look at it this way you wouldn't just randomly set it a 20$ bill on fire, and this is exactly what MLG is asking a bunch of people to do, because in reality only 20-30 people have any chance of qualifying.
you wouldn't randomly set a $20 bill on fire, and that's exactly the point, they don't want a random scrub to just randomly sign up because they can. If you are serious about SC2, you would save 1 dollar per day for 20 days.
If you are serious about SC2 you would know that only about 20 people can win, everyone else is in essence random scrubs.
exactly, so if you believe in your skills and want to have a shot at making a name for yourself, you would do it, but if you are some random scrub, you would pbly rather spend it on some beers. simple as that.
and also people saying its just 20$ its a non issue, you can only make that distinction for yourself.
I think what most of us are implying is that if $20 is a prohibitive financial issue for you, perhaps esports isn't your biggest problem at the moment.
And what people is argueing is the need of the entry, not how much it affects them monetary wise, specially since we have examples where there is no entrance fee and what MLG_Adam said is a not an issue at all.
$20 is completely reasonable fee. Players are just complaining because they don't want to pay.
Ignore the examples that i provide and just follow your nonsense of point.
Is it needed ? Why is needed for MLG and not for GSL/EU ? There are no trolls on europe and korea ? because that's what MLG_Adam is implying.
and also people saying its just 20$ its a non issue, you can only make that distinction for yourself.
I think what most of us are implying is that if $20 is a prohibitive financial issue for you, perhaps esports isn't your biggest problem at the moment.
And what people is argueing is the need of the entry, not how much it affects them monetary wise, specially since we have examples where there is no entrance fee and what MLG_Adam said is a not an issue at all.
$20 is completely reasonable fee. Players are just complaining because they don't want to pay.
Ignore the examples that i provide and just follow your nonsense of point.
Is it needed ? Why is needed for MLG and not for GSL/EU ? There are no trolls on europe and korea ? because that's what MLG_Adam is implying.
Korea is offline bro. also, they had a ton of no-shows for the Code A qualifiers today.
anyways, this is looking pretty good. i like that they are just completely copying the GSL format as it's basically the perfect tournament format. Axeltoss needs to be let go though.
and also people saying its just 20$ its a non issue, you can only make that distinction for yourself.
I think what most of us are implying is that if $20 is a prohibitive financial issue for you, perhaps esports isn't your biggest problem at the moment.
And what people is argueing is the need of the entry, not how much it affects them monetary wise, specially since we have examples where there is no entrance fee and what MLG_Adam said is a not an issue at all.
$20 is completely reasonable fee. Players are just complaining because they don't want to pay.
Ignore the examples that i provide and just follow your nonsense of point.
Is it needed ? Why is needed for MLG and not for GSL/EU ? There are no trolls on europe and korea ? because that's what MLG_Adam is implying.
If ESL or GSL want to put a $20 fee in place that's their call. If they want no fee, also their call. Entry fees are pretty normal, I don't really see what all the fuss is about.
On April 11 2013 04:55 Doodsmack wrote: $20 is a big deal to people?
I would be surprised if people stopped complaining over trivial non-sense
I wish people would understand the complaining. Why should NA have to pay for qualifiers when EU/KR don't have to? That's what has me peeved is that MLG wants to charge money because they can where as EU/KR are free qualifiers.
God this thread and people saying stupid things like "people are really complaining about 20$?" just lol jesus you guys are ignorant.
and also people saying its just 20$ its a non issue, you can only make that distinction for yourself.
I think what most of us are implying is that if $20 is a prohibitive financial issue for you, perhaps esports isn't your biggest problem at the moment.
And what people is argueing is the need of the entry, not how much it affects them monetary wise, specially since we have examples where there is no entrance fee and what MLG_Adam said is a not an issue at all.
$20 is completely reasonable fee. Players are just complaining because they don't want to pay.
Ignore the examples that i provide and just follow your nonsense of point.
Is it needed ? Why is needed for MLG and not for GSL/EU ? There are no trolls on europe and korea ? because that's what MLG_Adam is implying.
If ESL or GSL want to put a $20 fee in place that's their call. If they want no fee, also their call. Entry fees are pretty normal, I don't really see what all the fuss is about.
You probably will need ESL account to join in, and i'd rather pay 20$ than use their website.
On April 11 2013 04:55 Doodsmack wrote: $20 is a big deal to people?
I would be surprised if people stopped complaining over trivial non-sense
I wish people would understand the complaining. Why should NA have to pay for qualifiers when EU/KR don't have to? That's what has me peeved is that MLG wants to charge money because they can where as EU/KR are free qualifiers.
God this thread and people saying stupid things like "people are really complaining about 20$?" just lol jesus you guys are ignorant.
it deters trolls..etc. in an online qualifier, GSL qualifier = offline, which means less of them.. besides, it's their tournament, nobody is forcing anyone to participate if they don't want to pay 20 bucks.
hell, you would pbly still complain if the fee is a penny. christ..
Any word yet if this is their offline portions will be open to public for crowd/audience? With this many Koreans, and no crowds in MLG NY studio, it's going to end up feeling a whole hell of a lot like the MLG Arenas of last year, and not the "Premier" North American event.
On that note, I really hope MLG considers a big California move for studio/WCS responsibilities. It seems to be the best place for the consolidation and development of the NA scene if WCS does eventually accomplish that goal. It has the best ping to KR for players to practice, has Blizzard and NASL offices/studios there, and several teams have expressed interest in setting up team houses in the area. If there is any place in America where MLG could recreate a GSL style regular studio event, it would be in California with WCS.
and also people saying its just 20$ its a non issue, you can only make that distinction for yourself.
I think what most of us are implying is that if $20 is a prohibitive financial issue for you, perhaps esports isn't your biggest problem at the moment.
And what people is argueing is the need of the entry, not how much it affects them monetary wise, specially since we have examples where there is no entrance fee and what MLG_Adam said is a not an issue at all.
$20 is completely reasonable fee. Players are just complaining because they don't want to pay.
Ignore the examples that i provide and just follow your nonsense of point.
Is it needed ? Why is needed for MLG and not for GSL/EU ? There are no trolls on europe and korea ? because that's what MLG_Adam is implying.
If ESL or GSL want to put a $20 fee in place that's their call. If they want no fee, also their call. Entry fees are pretty normal, I don't really see what all the fuss is about.
You probably will need ESL account to join in, and i'd rather pay 20$ than use their website.
MLG site isn't better, fyi. lol.
And as many have said, keep the discussion to the fact that NA has an entry fee but KR/EU do not. That is the wierd/confusing part. Although $20 is the greatest entry fee to a major tournament qualifier that I have seen; an entry fee is not unheard of and is perfectly reasonable for the reason MLG_Adam gave.
So, IE. Is it fair/right for NA to have an entry fee when KR/EU do not? (is the debate that seems worth a possible debate)
On April 11 2013 04:55 Doodsmack wrote: $20 is a big deal to people?
I would be surprised if people stopped complaining over trivial non-sense
I wish people would understand the complaining. Why should NA have to pay for qualifiers when EU/KR don't have to? That's what has me peeved is that MLG wants to charge money because they can where as EU/KR are free qualifiers.
God this thread and people saying stupid things like "people are really complaining about 20$?" just lol jesus you guys are ignorant.
it deters trolls..etc. in an online qualifier, GSL qualifier = offline, which means less of them.. besides, it's their tournament, nobody is forcing anyone to participate if they don't want to pay 20 bucks.
hell, you would pbly still complain if the fee is a penny. christ..
And its not even their $20, that is the best part. People complaining because someone ELSE has to pay $20 to compete in an event, run by a for profit company.
On April 11 2013 04:55 Doodsmack wrote: $20 is a big deal to people?
I would be surprised if people stopped complaining over trivial non-sense
I wish people would understand the complaining. Why should NA have to pay for qualifiers when EU/KR don't have to? That's what has me peeved is that MLG wants to charge money because they can where as EU/KR are free qualifiers.
God this thread and people saying stupid things like "people are really complaining about 20$?" just lol jesus you guys are ignorant.
it deters trolls..etc. in an online qualifier, GSL qualifier = offline, which means less of them.. besides, it's their tournament, nobody is forcing anyone to participate if they don't want to pay 20 bucks.
hell, you would pbly still complain if the fee is a penny. christ..
And its not even their $20, that is the best part. People complaining because someone ELSE has to pay $20 to compete in an event, run by a for profit company.
I think you are getting it backwards. They are complaining that they have to pay $20 while participants for other regions do not. It's an understandable sentiment and I don't think anyone can argue that it is fair. It is however, a reasonable request. MLG is the organizer of NA and they make the rules.
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