EPTMLG - WCS NA Season 1 - Page 10
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tribulator
774 Posts
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Fishriot
United States621 Posts
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BoxingKangaroo
Japan955 Posts
$20 dollars is a lot of money to some people. $20 to someone who can afford a computer, Internet, and new release games should not be. Why is NA $20 and EU and KR not? MLG_Adam gave their reasoning, and I think it's a valid one. Does the same problem exist in KR and EU? Well we're not sure about EU, but certainly in KR there are lots of no shows. KR and EU have decided that they'll just cope with the problem. MLG has decided to try and limit the problem. To me that seems reasonable and is certainly their prerogative. Blizzard could have easily dictated that no entry fee should be required. They clearly haven't. It looks like MLG been given autonomy on how to run their qualifier and they've decided this is a good way to limit the entrants. | ||
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
I was reading the MLG thread for the tournament and was a little confused, so I had to make some kind of graphic to try and make sense of it. Figured I might as well post it to Reddit to help anyone else in the same situation. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/rJ9Hpwe.png) | ||
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Prplppleatr
United States1518 Posts
On April 11 2013 11:59 juicyjames wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1c3zoo/i_made_an_infographic_to_try_and_make_sense_of/ This seems correct, though we don't know the number of players allowed in the 2nd qualifier, but a fair assumption. Will add to OP. Thanks. | ||
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geokilla
Canada8255 Posts
And even then only 8 people qualify... So that means MLG will get almost $4000 if 256 register. | ||
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ke_ivan
Singapore374 Posts
On April 11 2013 02:41 Plansix wrote: With all the hackers on NA, I think we are all set with $20. Seriously, are any of the people freaking out going to enter the qualifier? Is it your $20? Doesn't MLG charge for competitors passes for their normal events to keep out the trolls? Seriously, the local pick up lacrosse league charges $35. Get over it. but you get play on a rented green man. this isn't physical space, it's cyber space. That's the whole point of admen selling ads in eSports - owners win, advertisers win, competitors win, viewers win. i don't agree with this rule. i think it should be less, or at least throw in a viewership pass so that even if you lose you can watch for free. | ||
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skyflyfish
Canada499 Posts
- but stopping a 14-5 year old kid to become a new star will cost you more. | ||
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Goldfish
2230 Posts
On April 11 2013 03:17 Plansix wrote: I don't think that would have prevented the no shows in any way. They would just be really highly ranked no shows. Yeah, GSL has Masters+ only to qualify yet like a quarter or a fifth of the players don't even show up (there's at least 1 or 2 no shows in each groups). Edit - $20 does seem high though. Seems better to make it $10 (half the credits or approximately half) or something. | ||
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ETisME
12912 Posts
not like people from third world country is gonna fly over here to play if you can't even afford 20 bucks, you really shouldn't be playing starcraft | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On April 11 2013 13:54 ETisME wrote: oh come on, it's not even 20 bucks. not like people from third world country is gonna fly over here to play if you can't even afford 20 bucks, you really shouldn't be playing starcraft if you cant afford 20 bucks, you cant afford the plane ticket..... | ||
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Hrrrrm
United States2081 Posts
On April 11 2013 13:54 ETisME wrote: oh come on, it's not even 20 bucks. not like people from third world country is gonna fly over here to play if you can't even afford 20 bucks, you really shouldn't be playing starcraft The purpose of the $20 at least from MLG_Adam is to stop a lot of no shows. The same exact thing can be accomplished with $5. The moment someone has to use a credit card or paypal or whatever is enough of a barrier for the majority of no shows. It could be $1 and it would stop the majority of no shows. So again you have to wonder why they decided with $18.75. You add to the fact that this is for each qualifier and it does get extreme for an amateur who is trying to break into the scene in what's supposed to be an open competition. Just when you think things can't get worse, they do. I also always love it though when an issue comes up involving money people just can't help themselves to start calling everyone cheap or poor. People don't put the same value in things that others do. Some people would pay thousands of dollars for a shitty Nintendo game while others would throw it in the trash without thinking twice. Is $18.75 worth it to just get demolished in the first round by a Code S Korean if you get an unlucky draw? How about the second round? Third maybe? Should someone only try if they are confident in beating a Code S Korean? Guaranteed even less foreigners competing. Congratulations. | ||
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Hrrrrm
United States2081 Posts
On April 11 2013 13:57 dAPhREAk wrote: if you cant afford 20 bucks, you cant afford the plane ticket..... If you are within the US travel is provided by MLG. Try again. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On April 11 2013 14:10 Hrrrrm wrote: If you are within the US travel is provided by MLG. Try again. US isnt a third world country (arguably). try again. | ||
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VirtuallyJesse
United States398 Posts
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On April 11 2013 14:10 Hrrrrm wrote: If you are within the US travel is provided by MLG. Try again. Ok, you can't afford food in New York. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13537 Posts
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Prplppleatr
United States1518 Posts
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BoxingKangaroo
Japan955 Posts
On April 11 2013 15:03 Prplppleatr wrote: I don't get why everyone keeps going back to the $20 part...while it is the most i've heard of for a major event qualifier, it's $20...the real question is why does America have an entry fee but EU and Korea do not? Each tournament is run by their respective organisations. MLG gave the reason for their fee. Obviously KR and EU don't see that as a problem for their tournaments. I can see that in Korea's case, but for online EU, I think it'll be a nightmare trying to chase up the no-shows. | ||
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robopork
United States511 Posts
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