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tribulator
Profile Joined February 2011
774 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 02:23:53
April 11 2013 02:23 GMT
#181
20 bucks to enter an online qualifier for the event? Will I at least get a bumpersticker that says "I tried to qualify for WCS NA but all I got was an ass kicking by a korean and this bumpersticker."
Fishriot
Profile Joined May 2010
United States621 Posts
April 11 2013 02:26 GMT
#182
This is getting ridiculous. It's like WCS is trying to fuck it's self at this point.
BoxingKangaroo
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Japan955 Posts
April 11 2013 02:57 GMT
#183
Do people ready their pitchforks before even opening a thread?

$20 dollars is a lot of money to some people. $20 to someone who can afford a computer, Internet, and new release games should not be.

Why is NA $20 and EU and KR not? MLG_Adam gave their reasoning, and I think it's a valid one.

Does the same problem exist in KR and EU? Well we're not sure about EU, but certainly in KR there are lots of no shows. KR and EU have decided that they'll just cope with the problem. MLG has decided to try and limit the problem. To me that seems reasonable and is certainly their prerogative.

Blizzard could have easily dictated that no entry fee should be required. They clearly haven't. It looks like MLG been given autonomy on how to run their qualifier and they've decided this is a good way to limit the entrants.
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
April 11 2013 02:59 GMT
#184
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1c3zoo/i_made_an_infographic_to_try_and_make_sense_of/

I was reading the MLG thread for the tournament and was a little confused, so I had to make some kind of graphic to try and make sense of it. Figured I might as well post it to Reddit to help anyone else in the same situation.

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Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
April 11 2013 04:14 GMT
#185
On April 11 2013 11:59 juicyjames wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1c3zoo/i_made_an_infographic_to_try_and_make_sense_of/

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I was reading the MLG thread for the tournament and was a little confused, so I had to make some kind of graphic to try and make sense of it. Figured I might as well post it to Reddit to help anyone else in the same situation.

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This seems correct, though we don't know the number of players allowed in the 2nd qualifier, but a fair assumption. Will add to OP. Thanks.
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8240 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 04:17:44
April 11 2013 04:16 GMT
#186
LOL wtf MLG. Why is Blizzard allowing this? Is this their way of keeping Koreans out of NA?

And even then only 8 people qualify... So that means MLG will get almost $4000 if 256 register.
ke_ivan
Profile Joined February 2011
Singapore374 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 04:42:53
April 11 2013 04:39 GMT
#187
On April 11 2013 02:41 Plansix wrote:
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On April 11 2013 02:38 mrRoflpwn wrote:
Why not just make it you have to have minimum 700 points as Masters like GSL does it? That way its free and you wont have gold idiots signing up.


With all the hackers on NA, I think we are all set with $20.

Seriously, are any of the people freaking out going to enter the qualifier? Is it your $20? Doesn't MLG charge for competitors passes for their normal events to keep out the trolls?

Seriously, the local pick up lacrosse league charges $35. Get over it.

but you get play on a rented green man. this isn't physical space, it's cyber space. That's the whole point of admen selling ads in eSports - owners win, advertisers win, competitors win, viewers win. i don't agree with this rule. i think it should be less, or at least throw in a viewership pass so that even if you lose you can watch for free.
skyflyfish
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada499 Posts
April 11 2013 04:47 GMT
#188
you may earn $20 for entry fee
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but stopping a 14-5 year old kid to become a new star will cost you more.
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Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 04:53:15
April 11 2013 04:50 GMT
#189
On April 11 2013 03:17 Plansix wrote:
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On April 11 2013 03:15 ROOTT1 wrote:
On April 11 2013 03:07 MLG_Adam wrote:
If the qualifier was free to enter a huge % of the matches would be no shows. We want this qualifier to be taken seriously by those wishing to participate.


yea because limiting the qualis to gm players/high master leaguers only would have been too hard


I don't think that would have prevented the no shows in any way. They would just be really highly ranked no shows.


Yeah, GSL has Masters+ only to qualify yet like a quarter or a fifth of the players don't even show up (there's at least 1 or 2 no shows in each groups).

Edit - $20 does seem high though. Seems better to make it $10 (half the credits or approximately half) or something.
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12391 Posts
April 11 2013 04:54 GMT
#190
oh come on, it's not even 20 bucks.
not like people from third world country is gonna fly over here to play
if you can't even afford 20 bucks, you really shouldn't be playing starcraft
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 11 2013 04:57 GMT
#191
On April 11 2013 13:54 ETisME wrote:
oh come on, it's not even 20 bucks.
not like people from third world country is gonna fly over here to play
if you can't even afford 20 bucks, you really shouldn't be playing starcraft

if you cant afford 20 bucks, you cant afford the plane ticket.....
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
April 11 2013 05:10 GMT
#192
On April 11 2013 13:54 ETisME wrote:
oh come on, it's not even 20 bucks.
not like people from third world country is gonna fly over here to play
if you can't even afford 20 bucks, you really shouldn't be playing starcraft


The purpose of the $20 at least from MLG_Adam is to stop a lot of no shows. The same exact thing can be accomplished with $5. The moment someone has to use a credit card or paypal or whatever is enough of a barrier for the majority of no shows. It could be $1 and it would stop the majority of no shows. So again you have to wonder why they decided with $18.75. You add to the fact that this is for each qualifier and it does get extreme for an amateur who is trying to break into the scene in what's supposed to be an open competition. Just when you think things can't get worse, they do.

I also always love it though when an issue comes up involving money people just can't help themselves to start calling everyone cheap or poor. People don't put the same value in things that others do. Some people would pay thousands of dollars for a shitty Nintendo game while others would throw it in the trash without thinking twice. Is $18.75 worth it to just get demolished in the first round by a Code S Korean if you get an unlucky draw? How about the second round? Third maybe? Should someone only try if they are confident in beating a Code S Korean? Guaranteed even less foreigners competing. Congratulations.
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Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
April 11 2013 05:10 GMT
#193
On April 11 2013 13:57 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 13:54 ETisME wrote:
oh come on, it's not even 20 bucks.
not like people from third world country is gonna fly over here to play
if you can't even afford 20 bucks, you really shouldn't be playing starcraft

if you cant afford 20 bucks, you cant afford the plane ticket.....


If you are within the US travel is provided by MLG. Try again.
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 11 2013 05:12 GMT
#194
On April 11 2013 14:10 Hrrrrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 13:57 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 11 2013 13:54 ETisME wrote:
oh come on, it's not even 20 bucks.
not like people from third world country is gonna fly over here to play
if you can't even afford 20 bucks, you really shouldn't be playing starcraft

if you cant afford 20 bucks, you cant afford the plane ticket.....


If you are within the US travel is provided by MLG. Try again.

US isnt a third world country (arguably). try again.
VirtuallyJesse
Profile Joined February 2011
United States398 Posts
April 11 2013 05:29 GMT
#195
It could have been $5. Hell it could have been a $1 card check, you know where you're charged but gets refunded. That would surely weed out most of the bullshitters / no-shows just as effectively. But no, it's $18.75 / 25 "MLG credits". It just screams greed, I think people have every right to voice their opinion about it.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
April 11 2013 05:31 GMT
#196
On April 11 2013 14:10 Hrrrrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 13:57 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 11 2013 13:54 ETisME wrote:
oh come on, it's not even 20 bucks.
not like people from third world country is gonna fly over here to play
if you can't even afford 20 bucks, you really shouldn't be playing starcraft

if you cant afford 20 bucks, you cant afford the plane ticket.....


If you are within the US travel is provided by MLG. Try again.


Ok, you can't afford food in New York.
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13006 Posts
April 11 2013 05:56 GMT
#197
Yikes, it's $20 people. Are you all really that cheap?
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Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
April 11 2013 06:03 GMT
#198
I don't get why everyone keeps going back to the $20 part...while it is the most i've heard of for a major event qualifier, it's $20...the real question is why does America have an entry fee but EU and Korea do not?
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BoxingKangaroo
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Japan955 Posts
April 11 2013 06:07 GMT
#199
On April 11 2013 15:03 Prplppleatr wrote:
I don't get why everyone keeps going back to the $20 part...while it is the most i've heard of for a major event qualifier, it's $20...the real question is why does America have an entry fee but EU and Korea do not?


Each tournament is run by their respective organisations. MLG gave the reason for their fee. Obviously KR and EU don't see that as a problem for their tournaments. I can see that in Korea's case, but for online EU, I think it'll be a nightmare trying to chase up the no-shows.
robopork
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States511 Posts
April 11 2013 06:10 GMT
#200
Wow nerds pay nearly that much a month to play their game and we get huffy because they want competitive players to pay... is it once a year, or three times? I'm still fuzzy on the format. Either way, I live off barely more than minimum wage and I could still make $20 every three months work. Sorry about your starbucks, I guess?
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