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HobyHarro
Profile Joined February 2013
United States30 Posts
April 10 2013 19:16 GMT
#121
A fee is necessary. The people who are committed to their career and sc2 will pay $20. Also, keep in mind that qualifiers only happen once a season, so that is $20 once every few months, with a chance for a huge return payout. The fee makes the qualifier more legitimate and has MLG_Adam said, the fee will make "those wishing to participate" take the games more seriously.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10132 Posts
April 10 2013 19:21 GMT
#122
On April 11 2013 04:16 HobyHarro wrote:
A fee is necessary. The people who are committed to their career and sc2 will pay $20. Also, keep in mind that qualifiers only happen once a season, so that is $20 once every few months, with a chance for a huge return payout. The fee makes the qualifier more legitimate and has MLG_Adam said, the fee will make "those wishing to participate" take the games more seriously.


Interesting, it is not necessary on korea or europe, but you are willing to take it. That's hilarious.
serum321
Profile Joined January 2012
United States606 Posts
April 10 2013 19:21 GMT
#123
Why are there people who don't even have the slightest desire to compete in this thing complaining about a $20 registration fee, which anyone serious about it is a non-issue?
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
April 10 2013 19:22 GMT
#124
On April 11 2013 03:46 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 03:42 grs wrote:
On April 11 2013 03:41 Plansix wrote:
On April 11 2013 03:39 th3rogue wrote:
On April 11 2013 03:37 Plansix wrote:
On April 11 2013 03:33 blade55555 wrote:
On April 11 2013 03:25 Plansix wrote:
On April 11 2013 03:25 HeavenResign wrote:
Aren't MLG competitor passes usually $70? This is way cheaper.

SILENCE WITH YOUR LOGIC!


It's not logic. 70$ when are you playing at a physical LAN location that costs money to even rent out is far different then online qualifiers for a huge tournament (WCS obviously) that is free for EU and KR players to qualify for.

If every region did 20$ then I could understand it, but the fact that EU and KR get free qualifiers and NA has to pay 20$ is just lol.


Are we sure the other two are free? GSL is in person, so that cuts through a lot of the issues with no-shows, since you can just count the people who arrive and then make the bracket. I don't know about EU and if they will be an entry fee.

EU qualifiers will be fully open

That sounds like it is going to go poorly, but that is just me. I expect a lot of trolls to sign up to fuck around or just be no shows.

ESL/DECL is doing tournaments for 2 decades now. I guess they can handle that.


I just don't like the idea of someone qualifying because they got a bunch of luck walk overs or joke players who don't care. Maybe that won't happen, but I prefer that events try to put systems in place to assure that only the people who give a shit sign up.


Even if there are alot of trolls on EU, by the round of 32 there will be no more walkovers, neither in the form of players not showing up for the game, nor in the form of players who think they can play sc2 with their forehead.
Richard4021
Profile Joined October 2011
United States73 Posts
April 10 2013 19:28 GMT
#125
I wish the $18.75 will go to North America SC2 community development funding instead of Koreans sponsorship fund.
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 19:31:39
April 10 2013 19:29 GMT
#126
WTF EU and KR are free. Why is NA getting fucked over so hard.

and also people saying its just 20$ its a non issue, you can only make that distinction for yourself.
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kukarachaa
Profile Joined February 2011
United States284 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 19:39:01
April 10 2013 19:35 GMT
#127
Terrible decision, even if there are a decent number of no shows, there still will always be some games going to stream, viewing public wont suffer one bit. And for people saying 20$ is nothing, look at it this way you wouldn't just randomly set it a 20$ bill on fire, and this is exactly what MLG is asking a bunch of people to do, because in reality only 20-30 people have any chance of qualifying.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
April 10 2013 19:38 GMT
#128
There is something I do not understand. Code A has 40 players, plus 24 that drop from code S (68 total).

The MLG challenger league has 16 + 24. So the first round will be the round of 24, the second round will be the round of 20 and the third round will be the round of 18? That would only end up with 9 players getting into Premier to join the 8 that remain, and 19 players competing in the up and downs. Therefore: 15 out of the 19 players in the up and downs would advance to premier.

That cannot be right.
dgwow
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1024 Posts
April 10 2013 19:38 GMT
#129
I am interested to see if the monetary requirement apps the bracket from fully filling up
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remember87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden144 Posts
April 10 2013 19:41 GMT
#130
I totally agree with the entry fee. Cant believe people are complaining about it.
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 19:43:14
April 10 2013 19:41 GMT
#131
On April 11 2013 04:38 hzflank wrote:
There is something I do not understand. Code A has 40 players, plus 24 that drop from code S (68 total).

The MLG challenger league has 16 + 24. So the first round will be the round of 24, the second round will be the round of 20 and the third round will be the round of 18? That would only end up with 9 players getting into Premier to join the 8 that remain, and 19 players competing in the up and downs. Therefore: 15 out of the 19 players in the up and downs would advance to premier.

That cannot be right.

Challenger (Code A) is 16 from qualifiers and 24 from Premier (Code S), so the total is 40, not 68.

This is very similar to GSL, if you want to look at their brackets and see how it works.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_1_Korea_GSL
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dacimvrl
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State582 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 19:45:19
April 10 2013 19:45 GMT
#132
On April 11 2013 04:35 kukarachaa wrote:
Terrible decision, even if there are a decent number of no shows, there still will always be some games going to stream, viewing public wont suffer one bit. And for people saying 20$ is nothing, look at it this way you wouldn't just randomly set it a 20$ bill on fire, and this is exactly what MLG is asking a bunch of people to do, because in reality only 20-30 people have any chance of qualifying.


you wouldn't randomly set a $20 bill on fire, and that's exactly the point, they don't want a random scrub to just randomly sign up because they can. If you are serious about SC2, you would save 1 dollar per day for 20 days.
Fede
Profile Joined January 2011
Uruguay114 Posts
April 10 2013 19:45 GMT
#133
People talking like some no-shows can ruin the entire tournament or something. BYEs and gold league sing-ups have been around since EVER and it has never been an issue. TL open, playhem tourneys, zotac cups, who cares about BYEs, it doesn't ruin anything, you can't "troll" the MLG by singing up, that's retarded.

This $20 fee kills up and coming players and is unnecesary, filtering by league is way more smarter. Mr. GM #58 may have a small chance to grab some points at this, but maybe he doesn't want to risk 20 bucks on a long shot. Does that mean he would ruin the tournament by joining it by free? NO.
dacimvrl
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State582 Posts
April 10 2013 19:47 GMT
#134
On April 11 2013 04:45 Fede wrote:
People talking like some no-shows can ruin the entire tournament or something. BYEs and gold league sing-ups have been around since EVER and it has never been an issue. TL open, playhem tourneys, zotac cups, who cares about BYEs, it doesn't ruin anything, you can't "troll" the MLG by singing up, that's retarded.

This $20 fee kills up and coming players and is unnecesary, filtering by league is way more smarter. Mr. GM #58 may have a small chance to grab some points at this, but maybe he doesn't want to risk 20 bucks on a long shot. Does that mean he would ruin the tournament by joining it by free? NO.


this just in - saving 50 cents a day for 40 days kills up-and-coming players
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
April 10 2013 19:51 GMT
#135
Does anyone know if the main tournament will be streamed live or just casted live from replays? I assume replays probably to make sure no one stream cheats.
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IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
April 10 2013 19:52 GMT
#136
On April 11 2013 04:29 EleanorRIgby wrote:

and also people saying its just 20$ its a non issue, you can only make that distinction for yourself.


I think what most of us are implying is that if $20 is a prohibitive financial issue for you, perhaps esports isn't your biggest problem at the moment.
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hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
April 10 2013 19:52 GMT
#137
On April 11 2013 04:41 Prplppleatr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 04:38 hzflank wrote:
There is something I do not understand. Code A has 40 players, plus 24 that drop from code S (68 total).

The MLG challenger league has 16 + 24. So the first round will be the round of 24, the second round will be the round of 20 and the third round will be the round of 18? That would only end up with 9 players getting into Premier to join the 8 that remain, and 19 players competing in the up and downs. Therefore: 15 out of the 19 players in the up and downs would advance to premier.

That cannot be right.

Challenger (Code A) is 16 from qualifiers and 24 from Premier (Code S), so the total is 40, not 68.

This is very similar to GSL, if you want to look at their brackets and see how it works.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_1_Korea_GSL


I know, but in the GSL Code A is 40 from Code B qualifiers or Up and Downs and 8 from code S to make a round of 48, then 8 more from code S to make a round of 32 and finally 8 more from code S to make the round of 24. That is 68 players total.

Typically around 18 players will go from up and downs to code A, which still leaves around 22 spots from the qualifiers (it varies every season).

The MLG Challngers (code A) does not look big enough to have 24 players drop from code S to code A during the season.
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
April 10 2013 19:52 GMT
#138
On April 11 2013 04:47 dacimvrl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 04:45 Fede wrote:
People talking like some no-shows can ruin the entire tournament or something. BYEs and gold league sing-ups have been around since EVER and it has never been an issue. TL open, playhem tourneys, zotac cups, who cares about BYEs, it doesn't ruin anything, you can't "troll" the MLG by singing up, that's retarded.

This $20 fee kills up and coming players and is unnecesary, filtering by league is way more smarter. Mr. GM #58 may have a small chance to grab some points at this, but maybe he doesn't want to risk 20 bucks on a long shot. Does that mean he would ruin the tournament by joining it by free? NO.


this just in - saving 50 cents a day for 40 days kills up-and-coming players


yeah make it sound stupid but its still the same. a higher barrier of entry.
Its not even an offline qualifier so i dont think that there is anything that could convince me of the necessity of this extra fee.
dashiz
Profile Joined August 2010
Costa Rica193 Posts
April 10 2013 19:53 GMT
#139
On April 11 2013 04:41 remember87 wrote:
I totally agree with the entry fee. Cant believe people are complaining about it.

you could be charged 200$ and you still be fine because you are from sweden....
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
April 10 2013 19:55 GMT
#140
$20 is a big deal to people?
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