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HobyHarro
United States30 Posts
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Godwrath
Spain10168 Posts
On April 11 2013 04:16 HobyHarro wrote: A fee is necessary. The people who are committed to their career and sc2 will pay $20. Also, keep in mind that qualifiers only happen once a season, so that is $20 once every few months, with a chance for a huge return payout. The fee makes the qualifier more legitimate and has MLG_Adam said, the fee will make "those wishing to participate" take the games more seriously. Interesting, it is not necessary on korea or europe, but you are willing to take it. That's hilarious. | ||
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serum321
United States606 Posts
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On April 11 2013 03:46 Plansix wrote: I just don't like the idea of someone qualifying because they got a bunch of luck walk overs or joke players who don't care. Maybe that won't happen, but I prefer that events try to put systems in place to assure that only the people who give a shit sign up. Even if there are alot of trolls on EU, by the round of 32 there will be no more walkovers, neither in the form of players not showing up for the game, nor in the form of players who think they can play sc2 with their forehead.  | ||
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Richard4021
United States73 Posts
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
and also people saying its just 20$ its a non issue, you can only make that distinction for yourself. | ||
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kukarachaa
United States284 Posts
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
The MLG challenger league has 16 + 24. So the first round will be the round of 24, the second round will be the round of 20 and the third round will be the round of 18? That would only end up with 9 players getting into Premier to join the 8 that remain, and 19 players competing in the up and downs. Therefore: 15 out of the 19 players in the up and downs would advance to premier. That cannot be right. | ||
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dgwow
Canada1024 Posts
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remember87
Sweden144 Posts
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Prplppleatr
United States1518 Posts
On April 11 2013 04:38 hzflank wrote: There is something I do not understand. Code A has 40 players, plus 24 that drop from code S (68 total). The MLG challenger league has 16 + 24. So the first round will be the round of 24, the second round will be the round of 20 and the third round will be the round of 18? That would only end up with 9 players getting into Premier to join the 8 that remain, and 19 players competing in the up and downs. Therefore: 15 out of the 19 players in the up and downs would advance to premier. That cannot be right. Challenger (Code A) is 16 from qualifiers and 24 from Premier (Code S), so the total is 40, not 68. This is very similar to GSL, if you want to look at their brackets and see how it works. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_1_Korea_GSL | ||
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dacimvrl
Vatican City State582 Posts
On April 11 2013 04:35 kukarachaa wrote: Terrible decision, even if there are a decent number of no shows, there still will always be some games going to stream, viewing public wont suffer one bit. And for people saying 20$ is nothing, look at it this way you wouldn't just randomly set it a 20$ bill on fire, and this is exactly what MLG is asking a bunch of people to do, because in reality only 20-30 people have any chance of qualifying. you wouldn't randomly set a $20 bill on fire, and that's exactly the point, they don't want a random scrub to just randomly sign up because they can. If you are serious about SC2, you would save 1 dollar per day for 20 days. | ||
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Fede
Uruguay114 Posts
This $20 fee kills up and coming players and is unnecesary, filtering by league is way more smarter. Mr. GM #58 may have a small chance to grab some points at this, but maybe he doesn't want to risk 20 bucks on a long shot. Does that mean he would ruin the tournament by joining it by free? NO. | ||
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dacimvrl
Vatican City State582 Posts
On April 11 2013 04:45 Fede wrote: People talking like some no-shows can ruin the entire tournament or something. BYEs and gold league sing-ups have been around since EVER and it has never been an issue. TL open, playhem tourneys, zotac cups, who cares about BYEs, it doesn't ruin anything, you can't "troll" the MLG by singing up, that's retarded. This $20 fee kills up and coming players and is unnecesary, filtering by league is way more smarter. Mr. GM #58 may have a small chance to grab some points at this, but maybe he doesn't want to risk 20 bucks on a long shot. Does that mean he would ruin the tournament by joining it by free? NO. this just in - saving 50 cents a day for 40 days kills up-and-coming players | ||
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
On April 11 2013 04:29 EleanorRIgby wrote: and also people saying its just 20$ its a non issue, you can only make that distinction for yourself. I think what most of us are implying is that if $20 is a prohibitive financial issue for you, perhaps esports isn't your biggest problem at the moment. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On April 11 2013 04:41 Prplppleatr wrote: Challenger (Code A) is 16 from qualifiers and 24 from Premier (Code S), so the total is 40, not 68. This is very similar to GSL, if you want to look at their brackets and see how it works. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_1_Korea_GSL I know, but in the GSL Code A is 40 from Code B qualifiers or Up and Downs and 8 from code S to make a round of 48, then 8 more from code S to make a round of 32 and finally 8 more from code S to make the round of 24. That is 68 players total. Typically around 18 players will go from up and downs to code A, which still leaves around 22 spots from the qualifiers (it varies every season). The MLG Challngers (code A) does not look big enough to have 24 players drop from code S to code A during the season. | ||
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SpikeStarcraft
Germany2095 Posts
On April 11 2013 04:47 dacimvrl wrote: this just in - saving 50 cents a day for 40 days kills up-and-coming players yeah make it sound stupid but its still the same. a higher barrier of entry. Its not even an offline qualifier so i dont think that there is anything that could convince me of the necessity of this extra fee. | ||
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dashiz
Costa Rica193 Posts
On April 11 2013 04:41 remember87 wrote: I totally agree with the entry fee. Cant believe people are complaining about it. you could be charged 200$ and you still be fine because you are from sweden.... | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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