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SnoLys
Profile Joined August 2011
149 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 17:57:52
April 10 2013 17:40 GMT
#21
Edit: Nevermind
iKill
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Denmark861 Posts
April 10 2013 17:40 GMT
#22
On April 11 2013 02:39 Roe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 02:33 Plansix wrote:
On April 11 2013 02:32 ROOTT1 wrote:
mlg likes money

Keeps idiots from signing who are Gold league just to troll someone. Barrier of entry.

unfortunately plenty of idiots have 20 bucks


Sure, but are you really going to pop a 20 on a qualifier where you'll most likely get wiped the fuck out in the first match?
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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
April 10 2013 17:41 GMT
#23
On April 11 2013 02:38 aceofspadess wrote:
$18.75... thats rlly a lot of money especially when there are multiple qualifiers.

There's only 1 qualifer.
Refer to my post.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 10 2013 17:41 GMT
#24
On April 11 2013 02:38 mrRoflpwn wrote:
Why not just make it you have to have minimum 700 points as Masters like GSL does it? That way its free and you wont have gold idiots signing up.


With all the hackers on NA, I think we are all set with $20.

Seriously, are any of the people freaking out going to enter the qualifier? Is it your $20? Doesn't MLG charge for competitors passes for their normal events to keep out the trolls?

Seriously, the local pick up lacrosse league charges $35. Get over it.
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splasha
Profile Joined August 2011
Brazil86 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 17:44:03
April 10 2013 17:43 GMT
#25
It keeps getting better ahhaaha

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Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
April 10 2013 17:43 GMT
#26
Kyo has a great point, that I would like to piggy back off of.

WCS is supposed to be about the growth of esports and they are trying to set it up so that skill across all regions increases.

With payment to enter and with so many koreans entered, not only do I feel that it discourages participation but it also provides little to no incentive to try and improve (and even provides incentive to just become a spectator and not participate).

This is going in a bad direction, i fear.
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PardonYou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1360 Posts
April 10 2013 17:43 GMT
#27
On April 11 2013 02:38 Waxangel wrote:
I'm on board if it means the return of donuts to the press room

Eyes on the prize.

I like the ~$20.00, but should also have a league requirement.
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 17:45:23
April 10 2013 17:45 GMT
#28
On April 11 2013 02:40 SnoLys wrote:
This information is not on MLG site, it seems that OP added it on his own.

Screenshow from MLG site

Did you bother to click that big blue registration link you outline? I think you should.

PS. if i didn't add relevant info, then why not just post the link and say nothing?...
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nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 17:53:14
April 10 2013 17:52 GMT
#29
On April 11 2013 02:43 Prplppleatr wrote:
Kyo has a great point, that I would like to piggy back off of.

WCS is supposed to be about the growth of esports and they are trying to set it up so that skill across all regions increases.

With payment to enter and with so many koreans entered, not only do I feel that it discourages participation but it also provides little to no incentive to try and improve (and even provides incentive to just become a spectator and not participate).

This is going in a bad direction, i fear.


There are other tournaments outside of the WCS that allow new and unknown players to try their luck. I fail to see why the WCS should accomodate the masses just because. And whether or not it provides incentive to play is subjective. Some (see Mana's tweets) would rather see it as inspirational being potentially put up against the best of the best and a chance to improve.
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Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
April 10 2013 17:56 GMT
#30
On April 11 2013 02:52 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 02:43 Prplppleatr wrote:
Kyo has a great point, that I would like to piggy back off of.

WCS is supposed to be about the growth of esports and they are trying to set it up so that skill across all regions increases.

With payment to enter and with so many koreans entered, not only do I feel that it discourages participation but it also provides little to no incentive to try and improve (and even provides incentive to just become a spectator and not participate).

This is going in a bad direction, i fear.


There are other tournaments outside of the WCS that allow new and unknown players to try their luck. I fail to see why the WCS should accomodate the masses just because. And whether or not it provides incentive to play is subjective. Some (see Mana's tweets) would rather see it as inspirational being potentially put up against the best of the best and a chance to improve.

True, it is subjective, which is why I said I think x. To each their own, but personally I would like to see as few barriers as possible, including paying to play in WCS.
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Archontas
Profile Joined September 2010
United States319 Posts
April 10 2013 17:57 GMT
#31
...$20 to enter a tournament? You mean that not just anyone can take a spot without putting anything up, and then show up to their match if they're in the mood that day?

The nerve of them.
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SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
April 10 2013 17:58 GMT
#32
Hahaha. Imagine the outrage if ESL required ESL Premium and Trusted Pro (+ months of waiting time) to register for the tournaments.
dashiz
Profile Joined August 2010
Costa Rica193 Posts
April 10 2013 18:04 GMT
#33
Why do they have to profit from qualifiers, isn't what blizzard should be paying mlg for??
Fearest
Profile Joined September 2011
854 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 18:08:13
April 10 2013 18:06 GMT
#34
20 dollars entry fee makes PERFECT sense or else you'll have tons of sign up and the "i'll show up if I feel like" attitude which set the tournament back.

And most likely only PROS sign up anyway and their team will pay for it.
For common people, 20 dollars to play some of the pros will be worth it.

edit: Honestly the people bitching are the ones that: 1. never been to a tournament in their life 2. will not sign up anyway regardless of $ 3. The gold-bronze
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 10 2013 18:06 GMT
#35
On April 11 2013 03:04 dashiz wrote:
Why do they have to profit from qualifiers, isn't what blizzard should be paying mlg for??


Why should someone be able to sign up and take a spot at no cost, then leave and totally mess up the bracket? Nothing better than a qualifier that 25-50% of the players don't show up for.
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MLG_Adam
Profile Joined July 2010
United States994 Posts
April 10 2013 18:07 GMT
#36
If the qualifier was free to enter a huge % of the matches would be no shows. We want this qualifier to be taken seriously by those wishing to participate.
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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 18:09:42
April 10 2013 18:07 GMT
#37
On April 11 2013 03:04 dashiz wrote:
Why do they have to profit from qualifiers, isn't what blizzard should be paying mlg for??

Paying for dozen of flights and accommodations isn't cheap, my friend.

I also support this fee decision. What I was reading the thread, I thought to myself "maybe I'll participate, just because", then literally 3 seconds later I get to the fee and thought "oh well, nevermind". I'm a master player that's pretty terrible, and would basically be a free win to a pro, basically a waste of space. Anyone worse than me that wanted to participate - there would be lots I'm sure - would equally be just a waste
Refer to my post.
elfonse
Profile Joined March 2011
416 Posts
April 10 2013 18:08 GMT
#38
Is $20 that much of a financial burden for some people?
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 18:13:38
April 10 2013 18:13 GMT
#39
On April 11 2013 03:07 MLG_Adam wrote:
If the qualifier was free to enter a huge % of the matches would be no shows. We want this qualifier to be taken seriously by those wishing to participate.

If thats the sole case adam
Why not a $20 registration fee
with a $20 refunded once the players have played all their games
and keeping $20 if they no-show?

Seems practical.
Unless you dont want to admit that youre wanting to profit off of this.
KiF1rE
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States964 Posts
April 10 2013 18:14 GMT
#40
On April 11 2013 03:07 MLG_Adam wrote:
If the qualifier was free to enter a huge % of the matches would be no shows. We want this qualifier to be taken seriously by those wishing to participate.


also would like to add, that they have been running free tournaments with credits for the longest time as well. I know im using mine to sign up and play. The entry fee is the least of the worries for an event like this.

Its more of is the goal of the event going to be met with the current system? such as strengthening the regions outside of KR, as it feels like yes the regions will get tougher, but only because of all the injected players. Even if the injected players leave after this event, Will NA even be stronger as region or weaker?
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