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vojnik
Macedonia923 Posts
On April 03 2013 16:06 Charlie.Sheen wrote: Symbolic globalization, no real meaning. If foreigners can't stand real chance against Korean, there will never be a real globalization. Yes tournament structure will improve the foreigner skills, RIGHT ! | ||
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MstrJinbo
United States1251 Posts
On April 03 2013 21:08 Hadley88 wrote: Who cares about them? They have maybe 3 solid players in total and they can move if they want. People who live in South America, SEA and Taiwan. Cant believe I have to explain this... | ||
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Charlie.Sheen
662 Posts
On April 03 2013 21:08 Hadley88 wrote: Who cares about them? They have maybe 3 solid players in total and they can move if they want. How many does NA have? | ||
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KingPaddy
1053 Posts
On April 03 2013 21:04 Sapphire.lux wrote: I hope we will see a lot of Koreans in the NA and EU events, because i don't want the World finals, best SC2 event, etc, to be made up of 2/3 foreigners. World finals will not be the best SC2 event, at least not skillwise. Even if enough Koreans switch, it will be those, who don't believe they can qualify through Code S or even qualify for Code S. GSL/OSL will still be the most stacked tournaments (and with that the most prestigious at least for me). | ||
digmouse
China6331 Posts
On April 03 2013 21:03 MstrJinbo wrote: South America, SEA and Taiwan are some notable losers in this announcement. At least for this year. Regions may be expanded in the future. Players like Sen and Moonglade will likely compete in the NA or EU qualifiers if at all. And we Chinese, I've talked with a bunch of Bliz China folks and pros and they might come up with a back up plan but it's still a mess to go with. | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On April 03 2013 21:13 digmouse wrote: And we Chinese, I've talked with a bunch of Bliz China folks and pros and they might come up with a back up plan but it's still a mess to go with. I wouldn't mind seeing a massive league with ANZ, south america, TW, chinese and african players. it could be a WCS misfit club haha (are there any african players aside from pandatank? lol). together they probably have comparable talent to NA (killer, sen, moonglade, xigua, etc) | ||
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waylander_
United States82 Posts
Scarlett (maybe) but NA is Blizzard's target audience and huge population | ||
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digmouse
China6331 Posts
On April 03 2013 21:15 opterown wrote: I wouldn't mind seeing a massive league with ANZ, south america, TW, chinese and african players. it could be a WCS misfit club haha (are there any african players aside from pandatank? lol). together they probably have comparable talent to NA (killer, sen, moonglade, xigua, etc) Like Combined Europe Nationals from last year? Not likely, there are other plans at least for us tho, might send players out to play in NA or EU, but again it's a mess, qualifiers, lag, flight, sponsor etc. | ||
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
On April 03 2013 21:15 opterown wrote: I wouldn't mind seeing a massive league with ANZ, south america, TW, chinese and african players. it could be a WCS misfit club haha (are there any african players aside from pandatank? lol). together they probably have comparable talent to NA (killer, sen, moonglade, xigua, etc) I think there was a gold leaguer from Namibia who attended WCG 2011. :p | ||
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ThisisRaider
Namibia153 Posts
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Sapphire.lux
Romania2620 Posts
On April 03 2013 21:11 KingPaddy wrote: World finals will not be the best SC2 event, at least not skillwise. Even if enough Koreans switch, it will be those, who don't believe they can qualify through Code S or even qualify for Code S. GSL/OSL will still be the most stacked tournaments (and with that the most prestigious at least for me). Yeah, i'm in the same boat. Still, if the foreign teams bring their Korean players to compete in NA/EU we could get less..not so great foreigners...qualify for the big event. Maybe a better structure would have been to have just Americans (N and S) play in NA and EU (with Russia) for EU but then give just 2 places each for the World Finals. 4 non Koreans for a supposedly World Final is already stretching it but a lot more legitimate then the current 2/3. | ||
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thefrol
Russian Federation30 Posts
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mikkmagro
Malta1513 Posts
On April 03 2013 21:15 opterown wrote: I wouldn't mind seeing a massive league with ANZ, south america, TW, chinese and african players. it could be a WCS misfit club haha (are there any african players aside from pandatank? lol). together they probably have comparable talent to NA (killer, sen, moonglade, xigua, etc) Killer is living in the Clarity House in the US, and PandaTank was living in the Razer Academy in California...he might have gone back to South Africa though. The biggest losers in this are by far the more remote scenes. WCS in South America, Oceania, China, Mexico, and it also hurts the semi-pros from competing at the big-money WCS Nationals across all continents. Competitions such as WCS UK, Italy, Poland, even the Combined Europeans, brought many new talents to the front lines, (such as LoWely, Dayshi, Comm etc.), and allowed players from all over the world to compete on big stages...players from Colombia to Belarus to the Philippines. Now the focus is back on the top tier professionals. The second mistake is probably not restricting by geography. It's fine having ForGG and viOlet playing in Europe and NA, they're part of that respective scene now, but having players playing in the NA/EU league from across the world doesn't make sense. If I want to watch top tier Koreans play, I'll watch OGN, GSL, GSTL and Proleague, and not WCS Europe. However I still think Blizzard's step is positive. There involvement has brought a much needed stability and organisation to the scene, and for those whining about the region locking, please remember that NASL. MLG Pro Circuit, IEM, DreamHack, HSC etc will still operate normally. So don't worry, you will still be able to see the very best players close to home. My question is, does that $1.6million include the prizepurse for GSL/OGN, or is it just for the EU/NA Qualifiers, the Seasonal Finals and the Grand Finals at Blizzcon? Eager to hear more details! | ||
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Gihi
384 Posts
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nimdil
Poland3759 Posts
On April 03 2013 21:33 mikkmagro wrote: Killer is living in the Clarity House in the US, and PandaTank was living in the Razer Academy in California...he might have gone back to South Africa though. The biggest losers in this are by far the more remote scenes. WCS in South America, Oceania, China, Mexico, and it also hurts the semi-pros from competing at the big-money WCS Nationals across all continents. Competitions such as WCS UK, Italy, Poland, even the Combined Europeans, brought many new talents to the front lines, (such as LoWely, Dayshi, Comm etc.), and allowed players from all over the world to compete on big stages...players from Colombia to Belarus to the Philippines. Now the focus is back on the top tier professionals. The second mistake is probably not restricting by geography. It's fine having ForGG and viOlet playing in Europe and NA, they're part of that respective scene now, but having players playing in the NA/EU league from across the world doesn't make sense. If I want to watch top tier Koreans play, I'll watch OGN, GSL, GSTL and Proleague, and not WCS Europe. However I still think Blizzard's step is positive. There involvement has brought a much needed stability and organisation to the scene, and for those whining about the region locking, please remember that NASL. MLG Pro Circuit, IEM, DreamHack, HSC etc will still operate normally. So don't worry, you will still be able to see the very best players close to home. My question is, does that $1.6million include the prizepurse for GSL/OGN, or is it just for the EU/NA Qualifiers, the Seasonal Finals and the Grand Finals at Blizzcon? Eager to hear more details! Mexico is NA country... | ||
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calippo
Sweden2525 Posts
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Thalandros
Netherlands1151 Posts
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Bizeheryer
Germany307 Posts
On April 03 2013 21:45 calippo wrote: Better hope its 15 koreans in those finals or its gonna be shit, free money for maphackers tho could be interesting. Yeah, how is that going to happen with offline final rounds? | ||
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bittman
Australia8759 Posts
On April 03 2013 21:45 calippo wrote: Better hope its 15 koreans in those finals or its gonna be shit, free money for maphackers tho could be interesting. Yeah because Korean players vs Korean players give us games that are never bad, always two-sided and revolutionary every step of the way. You're also in the minority in thinking an only Korean world tournament would be great to watch. A vocal minority, sure. And uhh, good luck with that map hacking thing. I'm sure that's always worked out really well in online qualifiers so far. | ||
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bongling
41 Posts
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