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TeslasPigeon
Profile Joined March 2012
464 Posts
April 02 2013 02:11 GMT
#401
Nice to see KESPA offer unique maps that aren't day break clones retiled. I just wish there was a way to incorporate them onto ladder.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
April 02 2013 02:33 GMT
#402
On April 02 2013 10:54 Blargh wrote:
I love the map-making strategy of just making/using random shit. It might not be like any of our other maps, but that doesn't mean any of these will be at all balanced for competitive play. Good BW maps =/= Good HotS maps... Whatever though =/.


The point isn't to use broodwar maps, the point is to make it so all the maps aren't the exact same. Making variations in the maps can change gameplay per map, whereas currently you can pretty much do the same thing on every map.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10566 Posts
April 02 2013 02:41 GMT
#403
interesting with the added ramps on newkirk.
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Gfire
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1699 Posts
April 02 2013 02:41 GMT
#404
On April 02 2013 10:50 Arco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 11:34 purakushi wrote:
[Official] KeSPA Naro Station has been added!

I found the description pretty interesting: "Naro-1, previously designated Korea Space Launch Vehicle or KSLV, is South Korea's first carrier rocket, and the first Republic of Korea launch vehicle to achieve Earth orbit."
And, yes, it is true.

http://oi47.tinypic.com/28iueqd.jpg

One interesting feature is that the natural has two entrances into it. Also, the collapsible rocks you see in the picture is actually a 500 HP, 3 armour Cooling Tower that falls over to become a 2000 HP, 3 armour Debris. Pretty cool.

Also, as of this post, only Fighting Spirit, Korhal Floating Island, Newkirk Redevelopment District, and Naro Station are official. The others have been removed.

As for the (old) change from gold minerals on FS, it could have worked, just not with how they had it. Oh well. They will figure it out eventually. I do wish all maps utilised 1 gas per base, though... or at least most bases. I will just comment that balance is not the issue here. Think if they had a better resource system in SC2, Blizzard would just balance the game around that. It is about design.

Naro Station is basically the same thing as KeSPA Sanctuary, just different tileset.

Yeah, same thing as happened in Planet S. Jacky made that on Xil (WoL Desert) and then ported it to a new snow/platform tileset later.

Can't complain since Sanctuary was just plain Shakuras, same as we've seen in previous maps. It did look nice, but the use of the new starship tileset is nice.
all's fair in love and melodies
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
April 02 2013 02:42 GMT
#405
On April 02 2013 11:33 Najda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 10:54 Blargh wrote:
I love the map-making strategy of just making/using random shit. It might not be like any of our other maps, but that doesn't mean any of these will be at all balanced for competitive play. Good BW maps =/= Good HotS maps... Whatever though =/.


The point isn't to use broodwar maps, the point is to make it so all the maps aren't the exact same. Making variations in the maps can change gameplay per map, whereas currently you can pretty much do the same thing on every map.


the creativity in BW maps is enough to explore until 2030, plus the nostalgia value to draw old fans. Thats why KeSPA so insists on making Fighting Spirit work (and we love that)
HowdySC2
Profile Joined March 2013
United States15 Posts
April 02 2013 05:29 GMT
#406
I'm really disappointed that Colosseum wasn't chosen for Proleague, that was the map I was looking the most forward to.
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danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
April 02 2013 05:49 GMT
#407
Oh man thats sad to hear, no colosseum T_T. Love the rest of the maps anyway...THX KESPA.
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thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5504 Posts
April 02 2013 05:53 GMT
#408
No more gold bases on FS... I am pissed off!!!
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
April 02 2013 07:48 GMT
#409
Looks like Round 4 should start this Saturday:
http://www.youtube.com/user/ESportsTV?feature=watch

Not that much time for us to hear the actual map pool and such...
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Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
April 02 2013 08:06 GMT
#410
Fighting Spirit best map <3
adan4real
Profile Joined November 2010
United States78 Posts
April 02 2013 08:30 GMT
#411
The Newkirk City changes are awesome. Fighting Spirit looks like a really solid map, though it would of been cool to see how to gold minerals would of changed the game. The other two maps are pretty solid. Kespa has op map makers.
TheSayo182
Profile Joined September 2012
Italy243 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-02 08:37:55
April 02 2013 08:37 GMT
#412
I hope we'll get some time to build our fantasy!
"Remember: Probes & Pylons and when behind Dark Shrine!"
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
April 02 2013 11:51 GMT
#413
Unique maps over Daybreak anyday.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
April 02 2013 13:11 GMT
#414
Now those maps look waaaaaayyyyyy better than their originals. I knew that all gold map could never go through.

I don't think it's a great idea to go crazy with maps now when the players can already go crazy with the new units and strategies in HotS since it's just been released. Glad to see that they're being more conservative with the maps than originally intended.
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grapedog
Profile Joined August 2010
United States151 Posts
April 02 2013 13:45 GMT
#415
blizzard comes out with new maps that are weird or experimental.... get the pitchforks, hang em!

Kespa comes out with news maps that are weird or experimental.... praise kespa, long live kespa!

The hypocrisy is so thick in here its ridiculous. thats my cake, i can have, and eat it too!
At the end of the game, the king and the pawn go in the same box.
cekkmt
Profile Joined November 2010
United States352 Posts
April 02 2013 13:51 GMT
#416
On April 02 2013 22:45 grapedog wrote:
blizzard comes out with new maps that are weird or experimental.... get the pitchforks, hang em!

Kespa comes out with news maps that are weird or experimental.... praise kespa, long live kespa!

The hypocrisy is so thick in here its ridiculous. thats my cake, i can have, and eat it too!

It's more acceptable for kespa since the tournament they run has to care less about balance because the teams choose which players to send out on which maps. New blizzard maps are published to ladder, which we can't choose which one we are playing on, which pisses people off when they end up playing on an imbalanced map.
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
April 02 2013 13:56 GMT
#417
On April 02 2013 22:45 grapedog wrote:
blizzard comes out with new maps that are weird or experimental.... get the pitchforks, hang em!

Kespa comes out with news maps that are weird or experimental.... praise kespa, long live kespa!

The hypocrisy is so thick in here its ridiculous. thats my cake, i can have, and eat it too!


care to list out some?
I mean, the line between terribad & extraordinary is so thin man
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
April 02 2013 14:20 GMT
#418
I was hoping Fighting Spirit would revolutionise SC2 tournament maps but the fact that it's back is making me cry tears of joy nonetheless.
The heart's eternal vow
InsidiA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1169 Posts
April 02 2013 21:18 GMT
#419
nooo the golds
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Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
April 02 2013 23:18 GMT
#420
On April 02 2013 22:45 grapedog wrote:
blizzard comes out with new maps that are weird or experimental.... get the pitchforks, hang em!

Kespa comes out with news maps that are weird or experimental.... praise kespa, long live kespa!

The hypocrisy is so thick in here its ridiculous. thats my cake, i can have, and eat it too!

This has annoyed me too. The same thing happened with GSL maps too, but with Kespa maps there seems to be an extra element to it. Like these old BW followers seem to consider everything Kespa produces a gift from god, no matter how obviously flawed it is.
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