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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On March 16 2013 23:07 Rabiator wrote: Then do so please. I doubt you will pull it off. There is no "all-powerful but evil and corrupting item" in Star Wars, so its not really going to work. The dark side of the force, bro. | ||
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Drunken.Jedi
Germany446 Posts
On March 16 2013 22:15 achristes wrote: Wasn't it the Lich King that pulled that one off to get out of his prison? Ner'zhul is the Lich King. | ||
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achan1058
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DidYuhim
Ukraine1905 Posts
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NeonFlare
Finland1307 Posts
Tbh I'd liked to see slightly less Mengks and more other characters or more focus on the new story they are trying to push instead of very slow solving of the old one. I guess LotV will either full on focus to the "Prophecy" or be some kind of internal struggle for X part of game which transitions into grand finale of solving the SC2 storyline. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On March 16 2013 23:12 Nevermind86 wrote: Arthas takes the spot as Blizzard's best villain, he was just plain evil but unlike Kerrigan didn't make dumb alliances with his adversaries. I remember Kerrigan making alliances but the only reason she did that was to use them, so they weren't really alliances at all. ._. She's a cruel trick of nature. | ||
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xAdra
Singapore1858 Posts
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naastyOne
491 Posts
I played wings of liberty and heart of the swarm campaign. Also I played warcraft 3 reign of chaos and frozen throne campaign, I also played Mass Effect, and u know what? These stories looks very similar to me. Let me show you some of those similiarities: [wc3] There is a prophecy of end of the world by Prophet Medivh [sc2] There is a prophecy of end of the world by Zeratul [ME] There is a protean prophecy uncovered by Shepard. [wc3] There is a guy who wants to destroy everything - Archimonde [sc2] There is a guy who wants to destroy everything - Amon (dark voice) [ME] Reapers want to destroy everything. [wc3] Lich king Nerzhul is prisoner of Burning Legion (Archimonde) [sc2] Overmind is prisoner of Xel Naga (Amon) [ME] Reaper Soverign imprisons and indoctrinetes Saren. [wc3] Undead forces are only beginning of true invasion of Burning Legion armies [sc2] Zerg forces are only beginning of true invasion of Xel Naga hybrids [ME] The Geth invasion is only the begining of Reaper invasion [wc3] Nerzhul changes prince Arthas into his undead officer [sc2] Overmind changes Kerrigan into his zerg officer [ME] Saren is indoctrinated and used to lead the indoctrinated. [wc3] Arthas becomes new lich king at the end [sc2] Kerrigan becomes new overmind at the end [ME] Shepard can become the Reaper in the end. [wc3] There is a outcast guy - Illidan Stormrage [sc2] There is a outcast guy - Zeratul [ME] Shepard is outcasted in ME2. [wc3] There is a mystic item - Sword Frostmourne [sc2] There is a mystic item - Xel Naga Artifact [ME] There are Prothean beakens, the the catalyst, ex. [wc3] There is a love plot between Tyrande Whisperwind and Furion Stormrage [sc2] There is a love plot between Sarah Kerrigan and James Raynor [ME]There is a love plot between Shepard and (anyone)Liara [wc3] There is a fall of current human emperor - Arthas kill his father [sc2] There is a fall of current human emperor - Kerrigan kill Mengsk [ME] There is a fall of uman goverment in the begining of ME3 What you guys think? What other similiarities u guys see between those three stories? | ||
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MVega
763 Posts
On March 16 2013 22:15 achristes wrote: Wasn't it the Lich King that pulled that one off to get out of his prison? Ner'zhul was the Lich King until he merged with Arthas and then emo Arthas destroyed Ner'zhul "with his mind." | ||
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Aterons_toss
Romania1275 Posts
The "bad guy that is actually good/neutral dude but was corrupted", "the anti-hero that becomes more powerful and takes over the powers/forces of this master", "the very evil dude that is dead-ish and has bunch of guys trying to revive him"... etc, this are common themes and characters in fantasy ( and not only ) works. There are certainly cliches that blizzard uses too much, like Amon being an exact copy of Sargeras and times when they drag the story on too much. But so has bioware ( ever saw how fucking similar reaper and darkspawns, up to the slightest detail ), so has square enix ( hell final fantasy ) and so has every other game dev. Game stories need to be short and catchy, and blizzard delivers, I am not playing starcraft to read an Asimov novel nor am I playing Warcraft to hear a work of Tolkeins and the people that expect that simply have too damn high of an expectation from games. | ||
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Kamakiri
Sweden312 Posts
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
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ZodaSoda
Australia1191 Posts
On March 16 2013 23:35 naastyOne wrote: + Show Spoiler + Hi I played wings of liberty and heart of the swarm campaign. Also I played warcraft 3 reign of chaos and frozen throne campaign, I also played Mass Effect, and u know what? These stories looks very similar to me. Let me show you some of those similiarities: [wc3] There is a prophecy of end of the world by Prophet Medivh [sc2] There is a prophecy of end of the world by Zeratul [ME] There is a protean prophecy uncovered by Shepard. [wc3] There is a guy who wants to destroy everything - Archimonde [sc2] There is a guy who wants to destroy everything - Amon (dark voice) [ME] Reapers want to destroy everything. [wc3] Lich king Nerzhul is prisoner of Burning Legion (Archimonde) [sc2] Overmind is prisoner of Xel Naga (Amon) [ME] Reaper Soverign imprisons and indoctrinetes Saren. [wc3] Undead forces are only beginning of true invasion of Burning Legion armies [sc2] Zerg forces are only beginning of true invasion of Xel Naga hybrids [ME] The Geth invasion is only the begining of Reaper invasion [wc3] Nerzhul changes prince Arthas into his undead officer [sc2] Overmind changes Kerrigan into his zerg officer [ME] Saren is indoctrinated and used to lead the indoctrinated. [wc3] Arthas becomes new lich king at the end [sc2] Kerrigan becomes new overmind at the end [ME] Shepard can become the Reaper in the end. [wc3] There is a outcast guy - Illidan Stormrage [sc2] There is a outcast guy - Zeratul [ME] Shepard is outcasted in ME2. [wc3] There is a mystic item - Sword Frostmourne [sc2] There is a mystic item - Xel Naga Artifact [ME] There are Prothean beakens, the the catalyst, ex. [wc3] There is a love plot between Tyrande Whisperwind and Furion Stormrage [sc2] There is a love plot between Sarah Kerrigan and James Raynor [ME]There is a love plot between Shepard and (anyone)Liara [wc3] There is a fall of current human emperor - Arthas kill his father [sc2] There is a fall of current human emperor - Kerrigan kill Mengsk [ME] There is a fall of uman goverment in the begining of ME3 What you guys think? What other similiarities u guys see between those three stories? I can add to that, cause generalization is easy [wc3] There is a prophecy of end of the world by Prophet Medivh [sc2] There is a prophecy of end of the world by Zeratul [Zelda] There is a prophecy of the beginning of the world by Goddesses [FF8] There is a prophecy of the end of the world by Ultimecia [wc3] There is a guy who wants to destroy everything - Archimonde [sc2] There is a guy who wants to destroy everything - Amon (dark voice) [Zelda] There is a guy who wants to destroy everything - Ganon [FF8] There is a girl who wants to destroy everything - Ultimecia [wc3] Lich king Nerzhul is prisoner of Burning Legion (Archimonde) [sc2] Overmind is prisoner of Xel Naga (Amon) [Zelda] Zelda is a prisoner of Ganon [FF8] Galbadia is a prisoner of Ultimecia [wc3] Undead forces are only beginning of true invasion of Burning Legion armies [sc2] Zerg forces are only beginning of true invasion of Xel Naga hybrids [Zelda] Ganon presence is only beginning of true goal for Triforce [FF8] Edea presence is only beginning of true attack by Ultimecia [wc3] Nerzhul changes prince Arthas into his undead officer [sc2] Overmind changes Kerrigan into his zerg officer [Zelda] Master sword changes link into hero [FF8] Ultimecia changes Edea into Puppet Sorceress [wc3] Arthas becomes new lich king at the end [sc2] Kerrigan becomes new overmind at the end [Zelda] Zelda Link and Ganon all represent a part of the triforce at the end [FF8] Rinoa becomes new sorceress near the end [wc3] There is a outcast guy - Illidan Stormrage [sc2] There is a outcast guy - Zeratul [Zelda] There is a outcast guy - Skullkid [FF8] There is a outcast guy - Squall [wc3] There is a mystic item - Sword Frostmourne [sc2] There is a mystic item - Xel Naga Artifact [Zelda] There is a mystic item - Triforce, Master Sword, Ocarina [FF8] There is a mystic item - Gardens, GFs [wc3] There is a love plot between Tyrande Whisperwind and Furion Stormrage [sc2] There is a love plot between Sarah Kerrigan and James Raynor [Zelda] There is a love plot between Zelda and Link [FF8] There is a love plot between Rinoa and Squall [wc3] There is a fall of current human emperor - Arthas kill his father [sc2] There is a fall of current human emperor - Kerrigan kill Mengsk [Zelda] There is a fall of current human king - King of Hyrule [FF8] Theres ia fall of a current human ruler - President Vinzer Deling :D | ||
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dinosrwar
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omgimonfire15
United States233 Posts
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
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Cinim
Denmark866 Posts
On March 16 2013 23:12 Nevermind86 wrote: I haven't played HOTS' campaing but Archimonde wants to conquer another world, the Burning legion are galactic conquerors, they invade planets through portals, their goal is to expand their hell, they do not want to destroy things for the sake of it, but expand their hellish empire. Archimonde is not the chief of the BL by the way, he's just one of the generals and he is killed and the BL just keeps going, but unable at the time to conquer 'earth'. About the Burning Legion, you're wrong. They want to take control yes, but the purpose of that so that they can undo the works of the Titans, Sargeras, the leader of the BL was a former Titan, and that is why he want to correct their failures as he think it to be. | ||
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achristes
Norway653 Posts
Sorry, thought it said Archimonde. | ||
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Andre
Slovenia3523 Posts
Maybe we had this discussion once and it was the same? I wonder. | ||
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D4V3Z02
Germany693 Posts
On March 16 2013 23:52 ZodaSoda wrote: I can add to that, cause generalization is easy [wc3] There is a prophecy of end of the world by Prophet Medivh [sc2] There is a prophecy of end of the world by Zeratul [Zelda] There is a prophecy of the beginning of the world by Goddesses [FF8] There is a prophecy of the end of the world by Ultimecia [wc3] There is a guy who wants to destroy everything - Archimonde [sc2] There is a guy who wants to destroy everything - Amon (dark voice) [Zelda] There is a guy who wants to destroy everything - Ganon [FF8] There is a girl who wants to destroy everything - Ultimecia [wc3] Lich king Nerzhul is prisoner of Burning Legion (Archimonde) [sc2] Overmind is prisoner of Xel Naga (Amon) [Zelda] Zelda is a prisoner of Ganon [FF8] Galbadia is a prisoner of Ultimecia [wc3] Undead forces are only beginning of true invasion of Burning Legion armies [sc2] Zerg forces are only beginning of true invasion of Xel Naga hybrids [Zelda] Ganon presence is only beginning of true goal for Triforce [FF8] Edea presence is only beginning of true attack by Ultimecia [wc3] Nerzhul changes prince Arthas into his undead officer [sc2] Overmind changes Kerrigan into his zerg officer [Zelda] Master sword changes link into hero [FF8] Ultimecia changes Edea into Puppet Sorceress [wc3] Arthas becomes new lich king at the end [sc2] Kerrigan becomes new overmind at the end [Zelda] Zelda Link and Ganon all represent a part of the triforce at the end [FF8] Rinoa becomes new sorceress near the end [wc3] There is a outcast guy - Illidan Stormrage [sc2] There is a outcast guy - Zeratul [Zelda] There is a outcast guy - Skullkid [FF8] There is a outcast guy - Squall [wc3] There is a mystic item - Sword Frostmourne [sc2] There is a mystic item - Xel Naga Artifact [Zelda] There is a mystic item - Triforce, Master Sword, Ocarina [FF8] There is a mystic item - Gardens, GFs [wc3] There is a love plot between Tyrande Whisperwind and Furion Stormrage [sc2] There is a love plot between Sarah Kerrigan and James Raynor [Zelda] There is a love plot between Zelda and Link [FF8] There is a love plot between Rinoa and Squall [wc3] There is a fall of current human emperor - Arthas kill his father [sc2] There is a fall of current human emperor - Kerrigan kill Mengsk [Zelda] There is a fall of current human king - King of Hyrule [FF8] Theres ia fall of a current human ruler - President Vinzer Deling :D [WC3] protagonists use language to communicate. [WOL] protagonist uses language to communicate. [HOTS] protagonist uses language to communicate. [Zelda] Link can't talk. Gotcha! I agree with the point of generalization. | ||
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