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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
March 16 2013 14:12 GMT
#41
On March 16 2013 23:07 Rabiator wrote:
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On March 16 2013 23:02 ZenithM wrote:
doesn't really do it for me, sorry. I could probably take all your points and do the same thing for Star Wars, LotR and whatever fantasy story you can think of.

Then do so please. I doubt you will pull it off. There is no "all-powerful but evil and corrupting item" in Star Wars, so its not really going to work.

The dark side of the force, bro.
Drunken.Jedi
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany446 Posts
March 16 2013 14:15 GMT
#42
On March 16 2013 22:15 achristes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 21:55 haaz wrote:
Hi
I played wings of liberty and heart of the swarm campaign. Also I played warcraft 3 reign of chaos and frozen throne campaign and u know what? These stories looks very similar to me.

Let me show you some of those similiarities:

[wc3] There is a prophecy of end of the world by Prophet Medivh
[sc2] There is a prophecy of end of the world by Zeratul

[wc3] There is a guy who wants to destroy everything - Archimonde
[sc2] There is a guy who wants to destroy everything - Amon (dark voice)

[wc3] Lich king Nerzhul is prisoner of Burning Legion (Archimonde)
[sc2] Overmind is prisoner of Xel Naga (Amon)

[wc3] Undead forces are only beginning of true invasion of Burning Legion armies
[sc2] Zerg forces are only beginning of true invasion of Xel Naga hybrids

[wc3] Nerzhul changes prince Arthas into his undead officer
[sc2] Overmind changes Kerrigan into his zerg officer

[wc3] Arthas becomes new lich king at the end
[sc2] Kerrigan becomes new overmind at the end

[wc3] There is a outcast guy - Illidan Stormrage
[sc2] There is a outcast guy - Zeratul

[wc3] There is a mystic item - Sword Frostmourne
[sc2] There is a mystic item - Xel Naga Artifact

[wc3] There is a love plot between Tyrande Whisperwind and Furion Stormrage
[sc2] There is a love plot between Sarah Kerrigan and James Raynor

[wc3] There is a fall of current human emperor - Arthas kill his father
[sc2] There is a fall of current human emperor - Kerrigan kill Mengsk


So as far as I understand:
The end of Legacy of the void will be the big fight as it were in wc3 right?

[wc3] human & night elf & orc vs burning legion & Archimonde
[sc2] terran & protoss & zerg vs hybrids & Amon

Maybe there is gonna be a plot of unfulfilled love too?

[wc3] Illidan loves Tyrande but she is already with other guy Furion
[sc2] Zeratul loves Selendis? but she is already with other guy Artanis?


What you guys think? What other similiarities u guys see between those two stories?
Do you guys think the story is predictable so far?

good health :-D

Wasn't it the Lich King that pulled that one off to get out of his prison?

Ner'zhul is the Lich King.
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
March 16 2013 14:17 GMT
#43
I said the same kind of thing when D3 came out. They need some new blood other than Chris Metzen to write the story.
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
March 16 2013 14:18 GMT
#44
Where's the part when Raynor consumes Skull of Gul'dan, kills the Dreadlord(I mean, Xel'Naga) and uses the Eye of Dalaran to kill Lich King(Amon) while destroying the world?
NeonFlare
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Finland1307 Posts
March 16 2013 14:24 GMT
#45
Well, considering they went through all the free for all and race subfactions one upping each other into single leader for race -> bring in new faction or race (UED in BW) -> Whole pot mixed, if race fractions it is united again (all the zerg control stuff etc.) They had to either make it major war between the united factions (which would have been T&P v Z at that point of story) or bring in new faction(s)/race(s) (which they kind of did with the hybrid/Amon thing) or make some or all races go into internal struggle again.

Tbh I'd liked to see slightly less Mengks and more other characters or more focus on the new story they are trying to push instead of very slow solving of the old one. I guess LotV will either full on focus to the "Prophecy" or be some kind of internal struggle for X part of game which transitions into grand finale of solving the SC2 storyline.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 14:26:41
March 16 2013 14:25 GMT
#46
On March 16 2013 23:12 Nevermind86 wrote:
Arthas takes the spot as Blizzard's best villain, he was just plain evil but unlike Kerrigan didn't make dumb alliances with his adversaries.


I remember Kerrigan making alliances but the only reason she did that was to use them, so they weren't really alliances at all.

._. She's a cruel trick of nature.
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
March 16 2013 14:26 GMT
#47
I don't get it, so they are similar, so what? If the first time you think this way is from reading this thread, well then it shows you have enjoyed the story anyways, even if they are retelllings of each other. Not getting the overreaction. You just want to have fun with a little bit of story mixed in to give context to your rts game.
naastyOne
Profile Joined April 2012
491 Posts
March 16 2013 14:35 GMT
#48
Hi
I played wings of liberty and heart of the swarm campaign. Also I played warcraft 3 reign of chaos and frozen throne campaign, I also played Mass Effect, and u know what? These stories looks very similar to me.

Let me show you some of those similiarities:

[wc3] There is a prophecy of end of the world by Prophet Medivh
[sc2] There is a prophecy of end of the world by Zeratul
[ME] There is a protean prophecy uncovered by Shepard.

[wc3] There is a guy who wants to destroy everything - Archimonde
[sc2] There is a guy who wants to destroy everything - Amon (dark voice)
[ME] Reapers want to destroy everything.


[wc3] Lich king Nerzhul is prisoner of Burning Legion (Archimonde)
[sc2] Overmind is prisoner of Xel Naga (Amon)
[ME] Reaper Soverign imprisons and indoctrinetes Saren.


[wc3] Undead forces are only beginning of true invasion of Burning Legion armies
[sc2] Zerg forces are only beginning of true invasion of Xel Naga hybrids
[ME] The Geth invasion is only the begining of Reaper invasion


[wc3] Nerzhul changes prince Arthas into his undead officer
[sc2] Overmind changes Kerrigan into his zerg officer
[ME] Saren is indoctrinated and used to lead the indoctrinated.


[wc3] Arthas becomes new lich king at the end
[sc2] Kerrigan becomes new overmind at the end
[ME] Shepard can become the Reaper in the end.

[wc3] There is a outcast guy - Illidan Stormrage
[sc2] There is a outcast guy - Zeratul
[ME] Shepard is outcasted in ME2.


[wc3] There is a mystic item - Sword Frostmourne
[sc2] There is a mystic item - Xel Naga Artifact
[ME] There are Prothean beakens, the the catalyst, ex.


[wc3] There is a love plot between Tyrande Whisperwind and Furion Stormrage
[sc2] There is a love plot between Sarah Kerrigan and James Raynor
[ME]There is a love plot between Shepard and (anyone)Liara


[wc3] There is a fall of current human emperor - Arthas kill his father
[sc2] There is a fall of current human emperor - Kerrigan kill Mengsk
[ME] There is a fall of uman goverment in the begining of ME3



What you guys think? What other similiarities u guys see between those three stories?
MVega
Profile Joined November 2010
763 Posts
March 16 2013 14:38 GMT
#49
Generic fiction is generic fiction. It goes deeper than that too. Xel'Naga lore and Titan lore. It wouldn't surprise me if the StarCraft and WarCraft universe are the same just at different time periods.

On March 16 2013 22:15 achristes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 21:55 haaz wrote:
Hi
I played wings of liberty and heart of the swarm campaign. Also I played warcraft 3 reign of chaos and frozen throne campaign and u know what? These stories looks very similar to me.

Let me show you some of those similiarities:

[wc3] There is a prophecy of end of the world by Prophet Medivh
[sc2] There is a prophecy of end of the world by Zeratul

[wc3] There is a guy who wants to destroy everything - Archimonde
[sc2] There is a guy who wants to destroy everything - Amon (dark voice)

[wc3] Lich king Nerzhul is prisoner of Burning Legion (Archimonde)
[sc2] Overmind is prisoner of Xel Naga (Amon)

[wc3] Undead forces are only beginning of true invasion of Burning Legion armies
[sc2] Zerg forces are only beginning of true invasion of Xel Naga hybrids

[wc3] Nerzhul changes prince Arthas into his undead officer
[sc2] Overmind changes Kerrigan into his zerg officer

[wc3] Arthas becomes new lich king at the end
[sc2] Kerrigan becomes new overmind at the end

[wc3] There is a outcast guy - Illidan Stormrage
[sc2] There is a outcast guy - Zeratul

[wc3] There is a mystic item - Sword Frostmourne
[sc2] There is a mystic item - Xel Naga Artifact

[wc3] There is a love plot between Tyrande Whisperwind and Furion Stormrage
[sc2] There is a love plot between Sarah Kerrigan and James Raynor

[wc3] There is a fall of current human emperor - Arthas kill his father
[sc2] There is a fall of current human emperor - Kerrigan kill Mengsk


So as far as I understand:
The end of Legacy of the void will be the big fight as it were in wc3 right?

[wc3] human & night elf & orc vs burning legion & Archimonde
[sc2] terran & protoss & zerg vs hybrids & Amon

Maybe there is gonna be a plot of unfulfilled love too?

[wc3] Illidan loves Tyrande but she is already with other guy Furion
[sc2] Zeratul loves Selendis? but she is already with other guy Artanis?


What you guys think? What other similiarities u guys see between those two stories?
Do you guys think the story is predictable so far?

good health :-D

Wasn't it the Lich King that pulled that one off to get out of his prison?


Ner'zhul was the Lich King until he merged with Arthas and then emo Arthas destroyed Ner'zhul "with his mind."



bumkin: How can you play like 50 games per day... I 4gate 2 times then it's nap time
Aterons_toss
Profile Joined February 2011
Romania1275 Posts
March 16 2013 14:44 GMT
#50
Meh, not really, what you describe is just random characters that are similar, but I could give you 1000 other similar examples in games and literature.
The "bad guy that is actually good/neutral dude but was corrupted", "the anti-hero that becomes more powerful and takes over the powers/forces of this master", "the very evil dude that is dead-ish and has bunch of guys trying to revive him"... etc, this are common themes and characters in fantasy ( and not only ) works.

There are certainly cliches that blizzard uses too much, like Amon being an exact copy of Sargeras and times when they drag the story on too much.
But so has bioware ( ever saw how fucking similar reaper and darkspawns, up to the slightest detail ), so has square enix ( hell final fantasy ) and so has every other game dev.
Game stories need to be short and catchy, and blizzard delivers, I am not playing starcraft to read an Asimov novel nor am I playing Warcraft to hear a work of Tolkeins and the people that expect that simply have too damn high of an expectation from games.
A good strategy means leaving your opponent room to make mistakes
Kamakiri
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden312 Posts
March 16 2013 14:45 GMT
#51
Did Metzen write wc3 story? And if so, how on earth did he go from genious to semi-retard?
cancer lancer, faceless cancer
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 14:51:52
March 16 2013 14:51 GMT
#52
I always thought SC1 and WC3 were quite similar too, especially the stories of Kerrigan and Arthas. Both become corrupted and serve the big bad guys (Overmind/Archimonde) as lackeys while the big baddies just barely lose the war. Then in the expansion they work by their own, pwn the competition and eventually become the big baddy themselves.
ZodaSoda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1191 Posts
March 16 2013 14:52 GMT
#53
On March 16 2013 23:35 naastyOne wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Hi
I played wings of liberty and heart of the swarm campaign. Also I played warcraft 3 reign of chaos and frozen throne campaign, I also played Mass Effect, and u know what? These stories looks very similar to me.

Let me show you some of those similiarities:

[wc3] There is a prophecy of end of the world by Prophet Medivh
[sc2] There is a prophecy of end of the world by Zeratul
[ME] There is a protean prophecy uncovered by Shepard.

[wc3] There is a guy who wants to destroy everything - Archimonde
[sc2] There is a guy who wants to destroy everything - Amon (dark voice)
[ME] Reapers want to destroy everything.


[wc3] Lich king Nerzhul is prisoner of Burning Legion (Archimonde)
[sc2] Overmind is prisoner of Xel Naga (Amon)
[ME] Reaper Soverign imprisons and indoctrinetes Saren.


[wc3] Undead forces are only beginning of true invasion of Burning Legion armies
[sc2] Zerg forces are only beginning of true invasion of Xel Naga hybrids
[ME] The Geth invasion is only the begining of Reaper invasion


[wc3] Nerzhul changes prince Arthas into his undead officer
[sc2] Overmind changes Kerrigan into his zerg officer
[ME] Saren is indoctrinated and used to lead the indoctrinated.


[wc3] Arthas becomes new lich king at the end
[sc2] Kerrigan becomes new overmind at the end
[ME] Shepard can become the Reaper in the end.

[wc3] There is a outcast guy - Illidan Stormrage
[sc2] There is a outcast guy - Zeratul
[ME] Shepard is outcasted in ME2.


[wc3] There is a mystic item - Sword Frostmourne
[sc2] There is a mystic item - Xel Naga Artifact
[ME] There are Prothean beakens, the the catalyst, ex.


[wc3] There is a love plot between Tyrande Whisperwind and Furion Stormrage
[sc2] There is a love plot between Sarah Kerrigan and James Raynor
[ME]There is a love plot between Shepard and (anyone)Liara


[wc3] There is a fall of current human emperor - Arthas kill his father
[sc2] There is a fall of current human emperor - Kerrigan kill Mengsk
[ME] There is a fall of uman goverment in the begining of ME3



What you guys think? What other similiarities u guys see between those three stories?


I can add to that, cause generalization is easy

[wc3] There is a prophecy of end of the world by Prophet Medivh
[sc2] There is a prophecy of end of the world by Zeratul
[Zelda] There is a prophecy of the beginning of the world by Goddesses
[FF8] There is a prophecy of the end of the world by Ultimecia

[wc3] There is a guy who wants to destroy everything - Archimonde
[sc2] There is a guy who wants to destroy everything - Amon (dark voice)
[Zelda] There is a guy who wants to destroy everything - Ganon
[FF8] There is a girl who wants to destroy everything - Ultimecia

[wc3] Lich king Nerzhul is prisoner of Burning Legion (Archimonde)
[sc2] Overmind is prisoner of Xel Naga (Amon)
[Zelda] Zelda is a prisoner of Ganon
[FF8] Galbadia is a prisoner of Ultimecia

[wc3] Undead forces are only beginning of true invasion of Burning Legion armies
[sc2] Zerg forces are only beginning of true invasion of Xel Naga hybrids
[Zelda] Ganon presence is only beginning of true goal for Triforce
[FF8] Edea presence is only beginning of true attack by Ultimecia

[wc3] Nerzhul changes prince Arthas into his undead officer
[sc2] Overmind changes Kerrigan into his zerg officer
[Zelda] Master sword changes link into hero
[FF8] Ultimecia changes Edea into Puppet Sorceress

[wc3] Arthas becomes new lich king at the end
[sc2] Kerrigan becomes new overmind at the end
[Zelda] Zelda Link and Ganon all represent a part of the triforce at the end
[FF8] Rinoa becomes new sorceress near the end

[wc3] There is a outcast guy - Illidan Stormrage
[sc2] There is a outcast guy - Zeratul
[Zelda] There is a outcast guy - Skullkid
[FF8] There is a outcast guy - Squall

[wc3] There is a mystic item - Sword Frostmourne
[sc2] There is a mystic item - Xel Naga Artifact
[Zelda] There is a mystic item - Triforce, Master Sword, Ocarina
[FF8] There is a mystic item - Gardens, GFs

[wc3] There is a love plot between Tyrande Whisperwind and Furion Stormrage
[sc2] There is a love plot between Sarah Kerrigan and James Raynor
[Zelda] There is a love plot between Zelda and Link
[FF8] There is a love plot between Rinoa and Squall

[wc3] There is a fall of current human emperor - Arthas kill his father
[sc2] There is a fall of current human emperor - Kerrigan kill Mengsk
[Zelda] There is a fall of current human king - King of Hyrule
[FF8] Theres ia fall of a current human ruler - President Vinzer Deling

:D
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dinosrwar
Profile Joined September 2011
1290 Posts
March 16 2013 14:55 GMT
#54
The Heroic Quest fantasy trope structure is commonly used (Joseph Campbell blah blah blah). It's not too big of a deal. Shrug.
omgimonfire15
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States233 Posts
March 16 2013 15:04 GMT
#55
Except Kerrigan will never reach the awesomeness that was arthas.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
March 16 2013 15:05 GMT
#56
Haha, at last people see that OP is just a bunch of vaguely aligned common fantasy tropes...
Cinim
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark866 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 15:12:57
March 16 2013 15:11 GMT
#57
On March 16 2013 23:12 Nevermind86 wrote:


Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 21:55 haaz wrote:
[wc3] There is a guy who wants to destroy everything - Archimonde
[sc2] There is a guy who wants to destroy everything - Amon (dark voice).


I haven't played HOTS' campaing but Archimonde wants to conquer another world, the Burning legion are galactic conquerors, they invade planets through portals, their goal is to expand their hell, they do not want to destroy things for the sake of it, but expand their hellish empire. Archimonde is not the chief of the BL by the way, he's just one of the generals and he is killed and the BL just keeps going, but unable at the time to conquer 'earth'.



About the Burning Legion, you're wrong. They want to take control yes, but the purpose of that so that they can undo the works of the Titans, Sargeras, the leader of the BL was a former Titan, and that is why he want to correct their failures as he think it to be.
Hell, it's about time
achristes
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Norway653 Posts
March 16 2013 15:20 GMT
#58
On March 16 2013 23:15 Drunken.Jedi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 22:15 achristes wrote:
On March 16 2013 21:55 haaz wrote:
Hi
I played wings of liberty and heart of the swarm campaign. Also I played warcraft 3 reign of chaos and frozen throne campaign and u know what? These stories looks very similar to me.

Let me show you some of those similiarities:

[wc3] There is a prophecy of end of the world by Prophet Medivh
[sc2] There is a prophecy of end of the world by Zeratul

[wc3] There is a guy who wants to destroy everything - Archimonde
[sc2] There is a guy who wants to destroy everything - Amon (dark voice)

[wc3] Lich king Nerzhul is prisoner of Burning Legion (Archimonde)
[sc2] Overmind is prisoner of Xel Naga (Amon)

[wc3] Undead forces are only beginning of true invasion of Burning Legion armies
[sc2] Zerg forces are only beginning of true invasion of Xel Naga hybrids

[wc3] Nerzhul changes prince Arthas into his undead officer
[sc2] Overmind changes Kerrigan into his zerg officer

[wc3] Arthas becomes new lich king at the end
[sc2] Kerrigan becomes new overmind at the end

[wc3] There is a outcast guy - Illidan Stormrage
[sc2] There is a outcast guy - Zeratul

[wc3] There is a mystic item - Sword Frostmourne
[sc2] There is a mystic item - Xel Naga Artifact

[wc3] There is a love plot between Tyrande Whisperwind and Furion Stormrage
[sc2] There is a love plot between Sarah Kerrigan and James Raynor

[wc3] There is a fall of current human emperor - Arthas kill his father
[sc2] There is a fall of current human emperor - Kerrigan kill Mengsk


So as far as I understand:
The end of Legacy of the void will be the big fight as it were in wc3 right?

[wc3] human & night elf & orc vs burning legion & Archimonde
[sc2] terran & protoss & zerg vs hybrids & Amon

Maybe there is gonna be a plot of unfulfilled love too?

[wc3] Illidan loves Tyrande but she is already with other guy Furion
[sc2] Zeratul loves Selendis? but she is already with other guy Artanis?


What you guys think? What other similiarities u guys see between those two stories?
Do you guys think the story is predictable so far?

good health :-D

Wasn't it the Lich King that pulled that one off to get out of his prison?

Ner'zhul is the Lich King.

Sorry, thought it said Archimonde.
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Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
March 16 2013 15:21 GMT
#59
Omg all the stories are the same!!!

Maybe we had this discussion once and it was the same?

I wonder.
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D4V3Z02
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany693 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 15:34:00
March 16 2013 15:25 GMT
#60
On March 16 2013 23:52 ZodaSoda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 23:35 naastyOne wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Hi
I played wings of liberty and heart of the swarm campaign. Also I played warcraft 3 reign of chaos and frozen throne campaign, I also played Mass Effect, and u know what? These stories looks very similar to me.

Let me show you some of those similiarities:

[wc3] There is a prophecy of end of the world by Prophet Medivh
[sc2] There is a prophecy of end of the world by Zeratul
[ME] There is a protean prophecy uncovered by Shepard.

[wc3] There is a guy who wants to destroy everything - Archimonde
[sc2] There is a guy who wants to destroy everything - Amon (dark voice)
[ME] Reapers want to destroy everything.


[wc3] Lich king Nerzhul is prisoner of Burning Legion (Archimonde)
[sc2] Overmind is prisoner of Xel Naga (Amon)
[ME] Reaper Soverign imprisons and indoctrinetes Saren.


[wc3] Undead forces are only beginning of true invasion of Burning Legion armies
[sc2] Zerg forces are only beginning of true invasion of Xel Naga hybrids
[ME] The Geth invasion is only the begining of Reaper invasion


[wc3] Nerzhul changes prince Arthas into his undead officer
[sc2] Overmind changes Kerrigan into his zerg officer
[ME] Saren is indoctrinated and used to lead the indoctrinated.


[wc3] Arthas becomes new lich king at the end
[sc2] Kerrigan becomes new overmind at the end
[ME] Shepard can become the Reaper in the end.

[wc3] There is a outcast guy - Illidan Stormrage
[sc2] There is a outcast guy - Zeratul
[ME] Shepard is outcasted in ME2.


[wc3] There is a mystic item - Sword Frostmourne
[sc2] There is a mystic item - Xel Naga Artifact
[ME] There are Prothean beakens, the the catalyst, ex.


[wc3] There is a love plot between Tyrande Whisperwind and Furion Stormrage
[sc2] There is a love plot between Sarah Kerrigan and James Raynor
[ME]There is a love plot between Shepard and (anyone)Liara


[wc3] There is a fall of current human emperor - Arthas kill his father
[sc2] There is a fall of current human emperor - Kerrigan kill Mengsk
[ME] There is a fall of uman goverment in the begining of ME3



What you guys think? What other similiarities u guys see between those three stories?


I can add to that, cause generalization is easy

[wc3] There is a prophecy of end of the world by Prophet Medivh
[sc2] There is a prophecy of end of the world by Zeratul
[Zelda] There is a prophecy of the beginning of the world by Goddesses
[FF8] There is a prophecy of the end of the world by Ultimecia

[wc3] There is a guy who wants to destroy everything - Archimonde
[sc2] There is a guy who wants to destroy everything - Amon (dark voice)
[Zelda] There is a guy who wants to destroy everything - Ganon
[FF8] There is a girl who wants to destroy everything - Ultimecia

[wc3] Lich king Nerzhul is prisoner of Burning Legion (Archimonde)
[sc2] Overmind is prisoner of Xel Naga (Amon)
[Zelda] Zelda is a prisoner of Ganon
[FF8] Galbadia is a prisoner of Ultimecia

[wc3] Undead forces are only beginning of true invasion of Burning Legion armies
[sc2] Zerg forces are only beginning of true invasion of Xel Naga hybrids
[Zelda] Ganon presence is only beginning of true goal for Triforce
[FF8] Edea presence is only beginning of true attack by Ultimecia

[wc3] Nerzhul changes prince Arthas into his undead officer
[sc2] Overmind changes Kerrigan into his zerg officer
[Zelda] Master sword changes link into hero
[FF8] Ultimecia changes Edea into Puppet Sorceress

[wc3] Arthas becomes new lich king at the end
[sc2] Kerrigan becomes new overmind at the end
[Zelda] Zelda Link and Ganon all represent a part of the triforce at the end
[FF8] Rinoa becomes new sorceress near the end

[wc3] There is a outcast guy - Illidan Stormrage
[sc2] There is a outcast guy - Zeratul
[Zelda] There is a outcast guy - Skullkid
[FF8] There is a outcast guy - Squall

[wc3] There is a mystic item - Sword Frostmourne
[sc2] There is a mystic item - Xel Naga Artifact
[Zelda] There is a mystic item - Triforce, Master Sword, Ocarina
[FF8] There is a mystic item - Gardens, GFs

[wc3] There is a love plot between Tyrande Whisperwind and Furion Stormrage
[sc2] There is a love plot between Sarah Kerrigan and James Raynor
[Zelda] There is a love plot between Zelda and Link
[FF8] There is a love plot between Rinoa and Squall

[wc3] There is a fall of current human emperor - Arthas kill his father
[sc2] There is a fall of current human emperor - Kerrigan kill Mengsk
[Zelda] There is a fall of current human king - King of Hyrule
[FF8] Theres ia fall of a current human ruler - President Vinzer Deling

:D


[WC3] protagonists use language to communicate.
[WOL] protagonist uses language to communicate.
[HOTS] protagonist uses language to communicate.
[Zelda] Link can't talk.

Gotcha! I agree with the point of generalization.

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