Hi I played wings of liberty and heart of the swarm campaign. Also I played warcraft 3 reign of chaos and frozen throne campaign and u know what? These stories looks very similar to me.
Let me show you some of those similiarities:
[wc3] There is a prophecy of end of the world by Prophet Medivh [sc2] There is a prophecy of end of the world by Zeratul
[wc3] There is a guy who wants to destroy everything - Archimonde [sc2] There is a guy who wants to destroy everything - Amon (dark voice)
[wc3] Lich king Nerzhul is prisoner of Burning Legion (Archimonde) [sc2] Overmind is prisoner of Xel Naga (Amon)
[wc3] Undead forces are only beginning of true invasion of Burning Legion armies [sc2] Zerg forces are only beginning of true invasion of Xel Naga hybrids
[wc3] Nerzhul changes prince Arthas into his undead officer [sc2] Overmind changes Kerrigan into his zerg officer
[wc3] Arthas becomes new lich king at the end [sc2] Kerrigan becomes new overmind at the end
[wc3] There is a outcast guy - Illidan Stormrage [sc2] There is a outcast guy - Zeratul
[wc3] There is a mystic item - Sword Frostmourne [sc2] There is a mystic item - Xel Naga Artifact
[wc3] There is a love plot between Tyrande Whisperwind and Furion Stormrage [sc2] There is a love plot between Sarah Kerrigan and James Raynor
[wc3] There is a fall of current human emperor - Arthas kill his father [sc2] There is a fall of current human emperor - Kerrigan kill Mengsk
So as far as I understand: The end of Legacy of the void will be the big fight as it were in wc3 right?
[wc3] human & night elf & orc vs burning legion & Archimonde [sc2] terran & protoss & zerg vs hybrids & Amon
Maybe there is gonna be a plot of unfulfilled love too?
[wc3] Illidan loves Tyrande but she is already with other guy Furion [sc2] Zeratul loves Selendis? but she is already with other guy Artanis?
What you guys think? What other similiarities u guys see between those two stories? Do you guys think the story is predictable so far?
well you describe exactly whats every epic story can be drown out to... its just not that easy to make something completly new i am sure you find 1000 movies with same stuff
On March 16 2013 21:55 haaz wrote: [wc3] There is a love plot between Tyrande Whisperwind and Furion Stormrage [sc2] There is a love plot between Sarah Kerrigan and James Raynor
I think a more appropriate comparison would be Jaina and Arthas, or Tyrande and Illidan
Yep, the general storyline of starcraft 2 (and wc3 for that matter) are quite generic. Which I do not think is very bad by itself.
However, what disturbs me more is that the whole sc2-universe feels very 'fantasy'-like now. To many ancient creatures, "gods", magical powers, reincarnations, prophecies, etc. Sure, you will always need characters for a story but I feel it should be more about the different races then characters, political intrigues rather than some adventures in caves. But all of that has been said already for WoL.
On March 16 2013 21:55 haaz wrote: Hi I played wings of liberty and heart of the swarm campaign. Also I played warcraft 3 reign of chaos and frozen throne campaign and u know what? These stories looks very similar to me.
Let me show you some of those similiarities:
[wc3] There is a prophecy of end of the world by Prophet Medivh [sc2] There is a prophecy of end of the world by Zeratul
[wc3] There is a guy who wants to destroy everything - Archimonde [sc2] There is a guy who wants to destroy everything - Amon (dark voice)
[wc3] Lich king Nerzhul is prisoner of Burning Legion (Archimonde) [sc2] Overmind is prisoner of Xel Naga (Amon)
[wc3] Undead forces are only beginning of true invasion of Burning Legion armies [sc2] Zerg forces are only beginning of true invasion of Xel Naga hybrids
[wc3] Nerzhul changes prince Arthas into his undead officer [sc2] Overmind changes Kerrigan into his zerg officer
[wc3] Arthas becomes new lich king at the end [sc2] Kerrigan becomes new overmind at the end
[wc3] There is a outcast guy - Illidan Stormrage [sc2] There is a outcast guy - Zeratul
[wc3] There is a mystic item - Sword Frostmourne [sc2] There is a mystic item - Xel Naga Artifact
[wc3] There is a love plot between Tyrande Whisperwind and Furion Stormrage [sc2] There is a love plot between Sarah Kerrigan and James Raynor
[wc3] There is a fall of current human emperor - Arthas kill his father [sc2] There is a fall of current human emperor - Kerrigan kill Mengsk
So as far as I understand: The end of Legacy of the void will be the big fight as it were in wc3 right?
[wc3] human & night elf & orc vs burning legion & Archimonde [sc2] terran & protoss & zerg vs hybrids & Amon
Maybe there is gonna be a plot of unfulfilled love too?
[wc3] Illidan loves Tyrande but she is already with other guy Furion [sc2] Zeratul loves Selendis? but she is already with other guy Artanis?
What you guys think? What other similiarities u guys see between those two stories? Do you guys think the story is predictable so far?
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Wasn't it the Lich King that pulled that one off to get out of his prison?
You can apply this anolagy to literaly every fantasty story ever. Prophecies, mystical items and a love story!? Surely SC2 and WC3 only have those in common!
Not only is the story of SC2 "very similar" to that of WC3, we also have a "hero based campaign" (which does NOT affect the multiplayer) with LOTS of spellcaster units or clickable unit abilities (which does affect the multiplayer).
These two "design styles" are from Warcraft 3 and negatively affect the multiplayer of SC2 because too many clickies makes the game harder to play for casuals and creates a gap between the races. Protoss for example - the race with most clickies - is noticeably harder to play than Zerg, because the units are balanced with these abilities in mind. Terrible design decisions ...
In WC3 the amount of units on the battlefield was VERY VERY SMALL compared to SC2, so the clickies of the units didnt have that much of an effect, but compare that to SC2 where 25 Infestors can easily swarm an enemy army for zero resource cost.
So they tried to make a game which "has it all" and failed to see the problems with that design philosophy. You can never "have it all" without losing something important in the process.
On March 16 2013 22:23 CamoPillbox wrote: I didnt realize but after this i am even more disapointed about blizz lack of fantasy......
I can give a little bit of insight on this lack of imagination. Mike Morhaime is the CEO of Blizzard ... the company which produces the biggest mmoRPG on the planet. Now watch this video and look for his reaction to ROLEPLAYING ...
He has no clue what roleplaying is about and I think it might be the same ignorance going on about a lot of important things in other departments as well. They tried to grab all the good stuff from several franchises to create a "super franchise" ... but they failed IMO.
The fall of Blizzard (Metzen). SC1/BW for life. Playing those campaigns in SC2 ATM with the community made mod/maps. They're infinitely better than this generic fantasy drivel and were epic before epic was a buzzword.
The Orcs were the beginning of the Invasion of the burning Legion and Medivh was the one that lead the Legion to this world.
But yes similarities usually occur if you read books that are done by the same author, even if its a complete different world. Unless the author changed his interests.
The happening in Warcraft 3 seem to have really driven the Story in Sc2. Funny thing is I disliked Warcraft 3s story alot because of how it treated the Warcraft 1 and 2 story.
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