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On March 16 2013 01:27 Slaughter wrote:
What I am afraid of is the pro toss getting the shaft in in the third game. I mean there is going to be the final show down with the boss right, so how can they make it a protoss campaign AND have the major boss fight and lead up without making one or the other very short? Especially if the next game is about the same length as hots. They can't do both :/
if they make a major boss fight we wont get a starcraft 3 :'< i mean amon is the only evil left :\
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So much negativity. I thought the storyline wasn't too bad. Maybe a bit cheesy when they tried to invoke the imagery of an angel when she floated away on wings.
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Where does Duran come in Hots ?! Is narud = duran?! Wtf
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On March 16 2013 01:05 Phoobie wrote:Show nested quote +Stukov being brought back isn't beyond fathoming, the SC1 game engine was limited so of course the ghost exploded. In game wise though he was just shot so him coming back isn't beyond possibility. Then who`s body was set out into space in a coffin during the ending cinematic for the Terran campaign in brood war? Show nested quote +Also it's likely a foreshadowing of the return of the UED for LoTV, who were pushed out by the dominion but hardly destroyed. The UED was forced out after Kerrigan beat them in the final BW mission ``Omega``, it also mentions that not a single vessel returned to Earth in the epilogue. So yes they were totally destroyed and it does not seem likely they will return. Show nested quote +So it would be necessary for them to return for there to be a Terran presence in LoTV as the Dominion has been crushed under Kerrigan's high heels. The dominion is gone, mengsk is dead but we still have Valerian who could rally the terrans and rebuild to have some presence in LOTV
It's not stukov's body in the coffin, it's just propaganda.
All the Stukov stuff went through is quite bizzare, if you repeatedly click on him he even makes fun of it.
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To be honest though, BW story was pretty bad also. Please re-play the game to notice what I mean.
Starcraft 1 campaign (the first 3 ones) was amazing though. BW on the other hand felt like Blizzard didn't know how it would end when they started the 4th campaign.
... and 6th campaign (BW zerg) was just awful. Every mission was " Kill X character" "Kill Y character", without the story advancing in any way.
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I wish people would stay dead and bad people would stay bad. This is sci-fi, not fantasy. This is StarCraft, not Warcraft in Space.
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On March 16 2013 01:44 Savant wrote:
I wish people would stay dead and bad people would stay bad. This is sci-fi, not fantasy. This is StarCraft, not Warcraft in Space.
They are pretty damn similar since when can't people change in sci-fi?? I think the original star wars saga may want a word with you about people changing...
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Besides the first mission (how did the zerglings even get out against sentry bots, shittiest bots in the entire world!), the story made sence to me, it's not the hardest or most complex story ever, but it was not a bad one.
Seen some people say that Zeratul getting beaten up was stupid - he never came for a fight, the moment i saw them "fight" i realized he wasnt doing anything but get beaten. Going to zerus and becoming the queen of blades again was needed for two things: she needs the entire swarm behind her, not just one or two broords, to take on korhal. the second purpose is not yet in action; i reckon she'll need that power to complete the prophecy that she saves the universe. In both WoL and HotS it's made clear that SHE is the key to survival for zerg/toss (and terran? i dont remember) and i kinda doubt she can fit into that role as some uber-powerful ghost that happens to have some control over zerg minds.
I guess we will find out if my 2nd point is valid in LotV. Im also curious how they are gonna weave in LotV with this storyline, considering what zeratul said to kerrigan: "You'll not see me again". So do the toss and zerg just never meet up, does either of them die before they can meet, or is zeratul not involved at all in LotV? I reckon the last, maybe because he's dead, because he'll face the judgement of his people and accept whatever they throw at him for what he did.
Also, i think that bringing back stukov was just to ensure there was a hero unit in every mission, quite sure only the prologue is a mission where you do not control at least 1 hero-unit, and they possibly weren't capable of coming up with a better idea than Stukov or didnt want to introduce someone for just that part of the story. I never played sc1/bs (shame on me), so i cant say if he should've been considered dead or not, but if he survived, he is a kinda logical choice to side with kerrigan at that point, tho it's the ally that makes the least sence of all of them. The Primal Zerg (Dahaka?) is just their version of a queen/broodmother, its the leader of that part of the swarm but still under her command, so keeping him is kinda making sence, but Stukov is doing nothing after the Duran missions other than have a nice chitchat. Maybe they should've let him die in the end of the mission, like he dies when the 5th temple goes down because his powers are done, but that's not what happened and it might be stukov has a role to play, altho i doubt it.
For the rest, im looking forward to the campain in LotV, im curious how its gonna wrap up, i have some ideas but im not gonna bother writing them down, because they are mostly what i hope to happen and thus, highly unlikely to occur and in most cases, plain stupid.
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On March 16 2013 01:31 ScienceRob wrote:
So much negativity. I thought the storyline wasn't too bad. Maybe a bit cheesy when they tried to invoke the imagery of an angel when she floated away on wings.
I agree -- I thought it was good popcorn fun — space opera.
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The story was fucking terrible. Too much Hollywood bullshit, not enough Starcraft.
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On March 16 2013 01:31 ScienceRob wrote:
So much negativity. I thought the storyline wasn't too bad. Maybe a bit cheesy when they tried to invoke the imagery of an angel when she floated away on wings.
I just hated that after all the events they've both gone through. They finally are alone together after finishing all the missions for the time being etc. Then it's just like THX, WAS FUN, BYE NOW!
Wait what? They go through crazy emotions for each other the entire game, FINALLY find each other again knowing they're both safe and alive, and just wave goodbye? What the fuck is that?
Also, even so, we know that Kerri is off to fight Amon or whatever. What's Jim gonna do? We have NO idea??!/1?!?!
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On March 16 2013 02:03 LOLItsRyann wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 01:31 ScienceRob wrote:
So much negativity. I thought the storyline wasn't too bad. Maybe a bit cheesy when they tried to invoke the imagery of an angel when she floated away on wings. I just hated that after all the events they've both gone through. They finally are alone together after finishing all the missions for the time being etc. Then it's just like THX, WAS FUN, BYE NOW! Wait what? They go through crazy emotions for each other the entire game, FINALLY find each other again knowing they're both safe and alive, and just wave goodbye? What the fuck is that? Also, even so, we know that Kerri is off to fight Amon or whatever. What's Jim gonna do? We have NO idea??!/1?!?!
Zerg/Terran relationships probably aren't possible. That's why she's just gotta go, and Raynor knows he can't stop her, she gave up her humanity.
Aaaaand I'd say without fear of a mistake, that Jimmy is gonna chase Kerrigan to the dark corners of the void.
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I was halfway through the campaign, when I thought to myself
"When the fuck did Starcraft become a romance?"
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On March 16 2013 02:05 mordk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 02:03 LOLItsRyann wrote:On March 16 2013 01:31 ScienceRob wrote:
So much negativity. I thought the storyline wasn't too bad. Maybe a bit cheesy when they tried to invoke the imagery of an angel when she floated away on wings. I just hated that after all the events they've both gone through. They finally are alone together after finishing all the missions for the time being etc. Then it's just like THX, WAS FUN, BYE NOW! Wait what? They go through crazy emotions for each other the entire game, FINALLY find each other again knowing they're both safe and alive, and just wave goodbye? What the fuck is that? Also, even so, we know that Kerri is off to fight Amon or whatever. What's Jim gonna do? We have NO idea??!/1?!?! Zerg/Terran relationships probably aren't possible. That's why she's just gotta go, and Raynor knows he can't stop her, she gave up her humanity. Aaaaand I'd say without fear of a mistake, that Jimmy is gonna chase Kerrigan to the dark corners of the void.
I'm certain that we haven't seen (nor played with) the last of Jim Raynor, or Kerrigan.
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On March 16 2013 01:34 vahgar.r24 wrote:
Where does Duran come in Hots ?! Is narud = duran?! Wtf
Yes. Where have you been? lol
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On March 16 2013 01:42 Patate wrote:
To be honest though, BW story was pretty bad also. Please re-play the game to notice what I mean.
Starcraft 1 campaign (the first 3 ones) was amazing though. BW on the other hand felt like Blizzard didn't know how it would end when they started the 4th campaign.
... and 6th campaign (BW zerg) was just awful. Every mission was " Kill X character" "Kill Y character", without the story advancing in any way.
I thought it made sense. Kerrigan had gotten full use of the protoss and terran to secure her position in the swarm and neutralize the UED... Now she was going to be properly zerg and crush potential threats to her. Duke was Acturus' bite and Fenix... well Fenix was a just a little bonus to keep shakuras on their knees.
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Story was better than WoL but still disappointment compared to SCBW. Campaign play-through was amazing though, even if the story wasn't perfect.
To be fair though, it's still better than the OP of this thread.
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I think we should start a competition to rewrite the story.
Maybe one day someone will be good enough to make a campaign around it.
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Not directly related to the story, but was anyone else annoyed by the Ancient One's mouth glowing from the inside? That has such a fantasy touch to it, it reminded me of WoW dragons and didn't feel SciFi at all.
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Always felt that BW Kerrigan acting the way she did had little to do with being Zerg. Seeing her going emo in WoL and teenage mary sue-esque in HOTS was pretty disgusting.
Also, what a horrible way for Duran to go down. The guy was epic and deserved a better end.
And the in-game lines, oh my god. "You stand no chance n00b", every single time. Really? Why does every villain, possibly save Mengsk(who lost a lot of depth, too), has a personality of a warcraft orc?
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