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[Story spoilers!!] Heart of the HOTS continued - Page 15

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GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-15 16:31:28
March 15 2013 16:31 GMT
#281
On March 16 2013 01:27 Slaughter wrote:
What I am afraid of is the pro toss getting the shaft in in the third game. I mean there is going to be the final show down with the boss right, so how can they make it a protoss campaign AND have the major boss fight and lead up without making one or the other very short? Especially if the next game is about the same length as hots. They can't do both :/


if they make a major boss fight we wont get a starcraft 3 :'< i mean amon is the only evil left :\
Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!
ScienceRob
Profile Joined April 2010
United States382 Posts
March 15 2013 16:31 GMT
#282
So much negativity. I thought the storyline wasn't too bad. Maybe a bit cheesy when they tried to invoke the imagery of an angel when she floated away on wings.
Carpe Diem
vahgar.r24
Profile Joined October 2010
India465 Posts
March 15 2013 16:34 GMT
#283
Where does Duran come in Hots ?! Is narud = duran?! Wtf
Somethings are just worth fighting for
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
March 15 2013 16:36 GMT
#284
On March 16 2013 01:05 Phoobie wrote:
Show nested quote +
Stukov being brought back isn't beyond fathoming, the SC1 game engine was limited so of course the ghost exploded. In game wise though he was just shot so him coming back isn't beyond possibility.


Then who`s body was set out into space in a coffin during the ending cinematic for the Terran campaign in brood war?

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Also it's likely a foreshadowing of the return of the UED for LoTV, who were pushed out by the dominion but hardly destroyed.


The UED was forced out after Kerrigan beat them in the final BW mission ``Omega``, it also mentions that not a single vessel returned to Earth in the epilogue. So yes they were totally destroyed and it does not seem likely they will return.


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So it would be necessary for them to return for there to be a Terran presence in LoTV as the Dominion has been crushed under Kerrigan's high heels.


The dominion is gone, mengsk is dead but we still have Valerian who could rally the terrans and rebuild to have some presence in LOTV




It's not stukov's body in the coffin, it's just propaganda.

All the Stukov stuff went through is quite bizzare, if you repeatedly click on him he even makes fun of it.
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
Patate
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada441 Posts
March 15 2013 16:42 GMT
#285
To be honest though, BW story was pretty bad also. Please re-play the game to notice what I mean.

Starcraft 1 campaign (the first 3 ones) was amazing though. BW on the other hand felt like Blizzard didn't know how it would end when they started the 4th campaign.

... and 6th campaign (BW zerg) was just awful. Every mission was " Kill X character" "Kill Y character", without the story advancing in any way.
Dead game.
Savant
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States379 Posts
March 15 2013 16:44 GMT
#286
I wish people would stay dead and bad people would stay bad. This is sci-fi, not fantasy. This is StarCraft, not Warcraft in Space.
Son of Gnome
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States777 Posts
March 15 2013 16:47 GMT
#287
On March 16 2013 01:44 Savant wrote:
I wish people would stay dead and bad people would stay bad. This is sci-fi, not fantasy. This is StarCraft, not Warcraft in Space.

They are pretty damn similar since when can't people change in sci-fi?? I think the original star wars saga may want a word with you about people changing...
Whatever happens, happens
Koerage
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands1220 Posts
March 15 2013 16:51 GMT
#288
Besides the first mission (how did the zerglings even get out against sentry bots, shittiest bots in the entire world!), the story made sence to me, it's not the hardest or most complex story ever, but it was not a bad one.
Seen some people say that Zeratul getting beaten up was stupid - he never came for a fight, the moment i saw them "fight" i realized he wasnt doing anything but get beaten. Going to zerus and becoming the queen of blades again was needed for two things: she needs the entire swarm behind her, not just one or two broords, to take on korhal. the second purpose is not yet in action; i reckon she'll need that power to complete the prophecy that she saves the universe. In both WoL and HotS it's made clear that SHE is the key to survival for zerg/toss (and terran? i dont remember) and i kinda doubt she can fit into that role as some uber-powerful ghost that happens to have some control over zerg minds.
I guess we will find out if my 2nd point is valid in LotV. Im also curious how they are gonna weave in LotV with this storyline, considering what zeratul said to kerrigan: "You'll not see me again". So do the toss and zerg just never meet up, does either of them die before they can meet, or is zeratul not involved at all in LotV? I reckon the last, maybe because he's dead, because he'll face the judgement of his people and accept whatever they throw at him for what he did.

Also, i think that bringing back stukov was just to ensure there was a hero unit in every mission, quite sure only the prologue is a mission where you do not control at least 1 hero-unit, and they possibly weren't capable of coming up with a better idea than Stukov or didnt want to introduce someone for just that part of the story. I never played sc1/bs (shame on me), so i cant say if he should've been considered dead or not, but if he survived, he is a kinda logical choice to side with kerrigan at that point, tho it's the ally that makes the least sence of all of them. The Primal Zerg (Dahaka?) is just their version of a queen/broodmother, its the leader of that part of the swarm but still under her command, so keeping him is kinda making sence, but Stukov is doing nothing after the Duran missions other than have a nice chitchat. Maybe they should've let him die in the end of the mission, like he dies when the 5th temple goes down because his powers are done, but that's not what happened and it might be stukov has a role to play, altho i doubt it.

For the rest, im looking forward to the campain in LotV, im curious how its gonna wrap up, i have some ideas but im not gonna bother writing them down, because they are mostly what i hope to happen and thus, highly unlikely to occur and in most cases, plain stupid.
pak150
Profile Joined September 2010
United States531 Posts
March 15 2013 16:57 GMT
#289
On March 16 2013 01:31 ScienceRob wrote:
So much negativity. I thought the storyline wasn't too bad. Maybe a bit cheesy when they tried to invoke the imagery of an angel when she floated away on wings.


I agree -- I thought it was good popcorn fun — space opera.
tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
March 15 2013 17:03 GMT
#290
The story was fucking terrible. Too much Hollywood bullshit, not enough Starcraft.
LOLItsRyann
Profile Joined April 2011
England551 Posts
March 15 2013 17:03 GMT
#291
On March 16 2013 01:31 ScienceRob wrote:
So much negativity. I thought the storyline wasn't too bad. Maybe a bit cheesy when they tried to invoke the imagery of an angel when she floated away on wings.


I just hated that after all the events they've both gone through. They finally are alone together after finishing all the missions for the time being etc. Then it's just like THX, WAS FUN, BYE NOW!

Wait what? They go through crazy emotions for each other the entire game, FINALLY find each other again knowing they're both safe and alive, and just wave goodbye? What the fuck is that?

Also, even so, we know that Kerri is off to fight Amon or whatever. What's Jim gonna do? We have NO idea??!/1?!?!
EG<3
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-15 17:06:21
March 15 2013 17:05 GMT
#292
On March 16 2013 02:03 LOLItsRyann wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 01:31 ScienceRob wrote:
So much negativity. I thought the storyline wasn't too bad. Maybe a bit cheesy when they tried to invoke the imagery of an angel when she floated away on wings.


I just hated that after all the events they've both gone through. They finally are alone together after finishing all the missions for the time being etc. Then it's just like THX, WAS FUN, BYE NOW!

Wait what? They go through crazy emotions for each other the entire game, FINALLY find each other again knowing they're both safe and alive, and just wave goodbye? What the fuck is that?

Also, even so, we know that Kerri is off to fight Amon or whatever. What's Jim gonna do? We have NO idea??!/1?!?!

Zerg/Terran relationships probably aren't possible. That's why she's just gotta go, and Raynor knows he can't stop her, she gave up her humanity.

Aaaaand I'd say without fear of a mistake, that Jimmy is gonna chase Kerrigan to the dark corners of the void.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
March 15 2013 17:09 GMT
#293
I was halfway through the campaign, when I thought to myself

"When the fuck did Starcraft become a romance?"
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Lauriel
Profile Joined October 2012
United States108 Posts
March 15 2013 17:16 GMT
#294
On March 16 2013 02:05 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 02:03 LOLItsRyann wrote:
On March 16 2013 01:31 ScienceRob wrote:
So much negativity. I thought the storyline wasn't too bad. Maybe a bit cheesy when they tried to invoke the imagery of an angel when she floated away on wings.


I just hated that after all the events they've both gone through. They finally are alone together after finishing all the missions for the time being etc. Then it's just like THX, WAS FUN, BYE NOW!

Wait what? They go through crazy emotions for each other the entire game, FINALLY find each other again knowing they're both safe and alive, and just wave goodbye? What the fuck is that?

Also, even so, we know that Kerri is off to fight Amon or whatever. What's Jim gonna do? We have NO idea??!/1?!?!

Zerg/Terran relationships probably aren't possible. That's why she's just gotta go, and Raynor knows he can't stop her, she gave up her humanity.

Aaaaand I'd say without fear of a mistake, that Jimmy is gonna chase Kerrigan to the dark corners of the void.


I'm certain that we haven't seen (nor played with) the last of Jim Raynor, or Kerrigan.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
March 15 2013 17:21 GMT
#295
On March 16 2013 01:34 vahgar.r24 wrote:
Where does Duran come in Hots ?! Is narud = duran?! Wtf


Yes. Where have you been? lol
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11087 Posts
March 15 2013 17:23 GMT
#296
On March 16 2013 01:42 Patate wrote:
To be honest though, BW story was pretty bad also. Please re-play the game to notice what I mean.

Starcraft 1 campaign (the first 3 ones) was amazing though. BW on the other hand felt like Blizzard didn't know how it would end when they started the 4th campaign.

... and 6th campaign (BW zerg) was just awful. Every mission was " Kill X character" "Kill Y character", without the story advancing in any way.


I thought it made sense. Kerrigan had gotten full use of the protoss and terran to secure her position in the swarm and neutralize the UED... Now she was going to be properly zerg and crush potential threats to her. Duke was Acturus' bite and Fenix... well Fenix was a just a little bonus to keep shakuras on their knees.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-15 17:27:20
March 15 2013 17:24 GMT
#297
Story was better than WoL but still disappointment compared to SCBW. Campaign play-through was amazing though, even if the story wasn't perfect.

To be fair though, it's still better than the OP of this thread.
Kalingingsong
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada633 Posts
March 15 2013 17:29 GMT
#298
I think we should start a competition to rewrite the story.

Maybe one day someone will be good enough to make a campaign around it.
Dess.JadeFalcon
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
March 15 2013 17:33 GMT
#299
Not directly related to the story, but was anyone else annoyed by the Ancient One's mouth glowing from the inside? That has such a fantasy touch to it, it reminded me of WoW dragons and didn't feel SciFi at all.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Soulforged
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Latvia973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-15 17:35:09
March 15 2013 17:34 GMT
#300
Always felt that BW Kerrigan acting the way she did had little to do with being Zerg. Seeing her going emo in WoL and teenage mary sue-esque in HOTS was pretty disgusting.
Also, what a horrible way for Duran to go down. The guy was epic and deserved a better end.
And the in-game lines, oh my god. "You stand no chance n00b", every single time. Really? Why does every villain, possibly save Mengsk(who lost a lot of depth, too), has a personality of a warcraft orc?
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