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mongmong
Korea (South)1389 Posts
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Xpace
United States2209 Posts
On March 07 2013 22:01 mongmong wrote: Hero is a better player and is part of Liquid= fan favourite. He has been very consistent up until now since his debut winning tournaments and placing highly in GSL, BWC etc. JYP never got hype because... he's JYP. He was a decent player for the longest time; but he never really had an "OH SHIT" moment that got his name out there. Sure, he's on a Yankees team, but look at the other freakin' Koreans with him. Thrust a player like him in Proleague, with TBLS and the Elephant factor, obviously his fan-base wouldn't grow appropriately. Personally, I think JYP being tied for top performance in EG-TL shows how terribad the team is. JYP isn't bad, JYP isn't good, he's average; it's just everyone else on his team is pretty shite. Seeing those winrates and that ranking chart is so fuckin' depressing, man. Serious. | ||
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rj rl
648 Posts
On March 07 2013 21:52 opterown wrote: well eventually a kespa player would have won, it's just a bit later than some expected (or hoped) the truth you speak but just to be fair (and a bit annoying) - article only mentioned "a few months delay", not 2-4 exacty. So if some expected it to be 2 months, it's rather their problem not the article's crucial mistake. | ||
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Xpace
United States2209 Posts
On March 07 2013 22:08 rj rl wrote: the truth you speak but just to be fair (and a bit annoying) - article only mentioned "a few months delay", not 2-4 exacty. So if some expected it to be 2 months, it's rather their problem not the article's crucial mistake. I always saw it as "Kespa player(s) CAN win a GSL in X amount of time," rather than "Kespa player(s) WILL win a GSL in X amount of time." Rain was GSL-champion material pretty early on; but just like other GSL-champion material players that don't have a trophy to their name, no one really denies their abilities, it's just harder to argue for their sake. | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5599 Posts
On March 07 2013 21:00 StarVe wrote: At least now we have an article to link to morons who believe TL writers were simply biased in the Round 1 preview and no one with a clear mind would have thought that EGTL would do well. I think at one point you could swich two teams on the PL ranking and you would have the exact opposit of his preview ranking of the teams. That is incredibly inaccurate. And it is not only that, Fionn (and other TL writers as well) consistantly predicts that the kespa players will lose (and they are consistantly wrong). I recomend that they watch some more of PL. I think it is at this point the most competitive league in the world. | ||
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duckmaster
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ChriseC
Germany440 Posts
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
I should also add, HerO's collapse contributed a lot to this. Nobody here could rightly predict that HerO was going to have one of the worst PL records. TaeJa also got injured for an entire round. Since EG-TL is mostly a 3-man team, it really hurts when something happens to 2 of them. | ||
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Kergy
Peru2011 Posts
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rafaliusz
Poland482 Posts
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
On March 07 2013 21:47 Elite_ wrote: JYP and HerO best records for EG-TL in Proleague? Let's direct all of our hate towards JYP because he's a terrible player and bash HerO for getting nervous in every LR thread. Gotta love the community. Small sample size but technically Stephano has the best record on EG-TL. | ||
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Scorch
Austria3371 Posts
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shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
Send Idar to korean gaming house ???? success ! | ||
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Xpace
United States2209 Posts
On March 07 2013 22:30 Kergy wrote: didnt idra lose to minigun PartinG lost to CombatEx. What's your point? | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On March 07 2013 22:20 Elroi wrote: I think at one point you could swich two teams on the PL ranking and you would have the exact opposit of his preview ranking of the teams. That is incredibly inaccurate. And it is not only that, Fionn (and other TL writers as well) consistantly predicts that the kespa players will lose (and they are consistantly wrong). I recomend that they watch some more of PL. I think it is at this point the most competitive league in the world. Actually, getting the predictions completely wrong is kind of a trait with TL writers (the TL writer's curse). It has nothing to do with Kespa or not. It happened quite a bit before Kespa players switched. | ||
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Kergy
Peru2011 Posts
that PvP is a coinflip and every single protoss in PL is significantly better than minigun | ||
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Xpace
United States2209 Posts
On March 07 2013 22:32 Scorch wrote: When the collaboration was announced, I thought Taeja, Stephano and Hero were the best players in Proleague, with a strong experienced support cast of JYP, Thorzain and Puma to make them the strongest team by far. Kespa players had only recently switched to SC2 and were still lagging far behind, except a select few like Rain and Bogus. I'm not sure what happened then. Kespa players have now caught up skillwise, but even in round 1, EG-TL severely underperformed. Is it due to bad coaching? Poor training conditions? Bad preparation? Too much travelling and focus on other tournaments? Who knows. Yeah, you were rational. But shit happens. Slumps, injuries and so on are valid reasons for failing to live up to expectations. | ||
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Xpace
United States2209 Posts
On March 07 2013 22:34 Kergy wrote: that PvP is a coinflip and every single protoss in PL is significantly better than minigun True story; but at least it's hella more fun now than it was back then. Ignore me. I'm just praying for some IdrA ownage. | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5599 Posts
On March 07 2013 22:33 vthree wrote: Actually, getting the predictions completely wrong is kind of a trait with TL writers (the TL writer's curse). It has nothing to do with Kespa or not. It happened quite a bit before Kespa players switched. For example, the last preview was group E in the U&D, they predict the three kespa players as the worst in the group and they end up in the spots 1-3. Coincidence? | ||
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nooboon
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