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covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
March 07 2013 12:25 GMT
#21
Release the Gracken!!
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27230 Posts
March 07 2013 12:26 GMT
#22
On March 07 2013 21:21 Psychobabas wrote:
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On March 07 2013 21:00 StarVe wrote:
At least now we have an article to link to morons who believe TL writers were simply biased in the Round 1 preview and no one with a clear mind would have thought that EGTL would do well.


why so aggressive?

Because every thread that vaguely involves EGTL, be it the LR ones or any time they play in an individual league has morons coming out with smug 'HAHAHA EGTL SO BAD' fucking nonsense every other post.

It's obnoxious in the extreme for those of us who just want to stay on topic, or not throw EGTL under a bus. May as well get pissed off about it, I stopped browsing the SC section here for a good few months because there was no point.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
March 07 2013 12:28 GMT
#23
On March 07 2013 21:13 Shellshock1122 wrote:
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On March 07 2013 21:07 opterown wrote:
that article was probably less incorrect than the one intrigue wrote about elephants~

Kespa already has 13 spots in Code S.

Yup, and all it took was over 6 months and the vast majority of eSL players changing to a different game
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
March 07 2013 12:28 GMT
#24
it's not quite as bad as WCSKR lower bracket when esf antifans were out in full force, but it is still very obnoxious all the same. kind of depressing watching EG-TL for sc2 fans, since most sc2 fans have more invested in EG-TL than in PL teams. that may change over time, but EG-TL (and especially foreigners) doing poorly in PL is not good for viewership and general interest in that arena.
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
edgeOut
Profile Joined February 2013
United States945 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-07 12:30:16
March 07 2013 12:29 GMT
#25
On March 07 2013 21:00 StarVe wrote:
At least now we have an article to link to morons who believe TL writers were simply biased in the Round 1 preview and no one with a clear mind would have thought that EGTL would do well.


When morons understand things better than you, you should know you are blind minded. Calling people morons when they are correct, what does that make you to be?
Fuck you Zealously! For the fuck you give to those players.
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-07 12:34:31
March 07 2013 12:31 GMT
#26
On March 07 2013 21:24 Serimek wrote:
Only Stephano above 50%. Not something I was expecting at all before SPL started...


I was expecting that actually. Well not that he would be the only one. I still had a bit higher expectation from Stephano I think his skill lvl should be around 60%+ but we will see

On March 07 2013 21:28 opterown wrote:
it's not quite as bad as WCSKR lower bracket when esf antifans were out in full force, but it is still very obnoxious all the same. kind of depressing watching EG-TL for sc2 fans, since most sc2 fans have more invested in EG-TL than in PL teams. that may change over time, but EG-TL (and especially foreigners) doing poorly in PL is not good for viewership and general interest in that arena.



The foreigner players has actually not disappointed. Huk and Thorzain we knew they would struggle. You could say has Stephano disappointed abit? But frankly I don't think so maybe his win ratio should be a bit higher. No its the korean line-up that's been absolutely horrible and is the main reason why EG-TL has done so poorly
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
March 07 2013 12:31 GMT
#27
On March 07 2013 21:29 edgeOut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 21:00 StarVe wrote:
At least now we have an article to link to morons who believe TL writers were simply biased in the Round 1 preview and no one with a clear mind would have thought that EGTL would do well.


When morons understand things better than you, you should know you are blind minded. Calling people morons when they are correct, what does that make you to be?

i really do wonder how many SPL viewers really honestly thought that EG-TL would not do well in PL
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27230 Posts
March 07 2013 12:32 GMT
#28
I'm invested because:

1. I think the partnership model, and basing fulltime in Korea is the only way foreigners will ever compete, so it's good to see somebody try it.
2. A lot of my favourite players are on the team.
3. I never got to watch BW PL to see what all you alltimers were so nostalgic for.
4. New and cool maps.

In the period where I hated my very soul most tournaments due to the stagnation of the game, the EGTL effort maintained my interest in SC2 broadcasts, and I couldn't even talk about it with fellow LRers due to the horrible threads.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
March 07 2013 12:34 GMT
#29
On March 07 2013 21:13 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 21:07 opterown wrote:
that article was probably less incorrect than the one intrigue wrote about elephants~

Kespa already has 13 spots in Code S.


And the article said they would have pretty much every spot in Code S within 3-4 months.
Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
March 07 2013 12:35 GMT
#30
On March 07 2013 21:13 zhurai wrote:
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People were even blaming TaeJa that he was sabotaging Proleague because they were not seeing a Code S semifinalist performance.

those people should get a very severe wrist injury -_-

Sounds like something from DCInside so it's probably a joke. They like to make up mock excuses for the hyped players (especially funny when Bisu fails to get past a qualifier as usual).
MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
March 07 2013 12:36 GMT
#31
it may sound weird....but there is not enough quality to be succesful in korea right now....especially since people like puma dropped heavily skillwise....potential yes, actual quality no (except ppl like hero). and the worst thing about it is the ticking clock. cuz in a year kespa player/teams will just dominate everything and then there will be no chance at all for eg-tl to win something down there
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
Nobu
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain550 Posts
March 07 2013 12:36 GMT
#32
On March 07 2013 21:29 edgeOut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 21:00 StarVe wrote:
At least now we have an article to link to morons who believe TL writers were simply biased in the Round 1 preview and no one with a clear mind would have thought that EGTL would do well.


When morons understand things better than you, you should know you are blind minded. Calling people morons when they are correct, what does that make you to be?


The thing is that calling out EG-TL at the very beggining was like a blind prediction. The roster looked very good on paper and as the article says, could perfectly be a top 4 team. That things went the wrong way, with TaeJa's injury and some others underperforming (I was really expecting more from HerO), couldn't be really predicted and is what puts the team in the spot they are at the moment.
"There's farmers and there's gamers, farmers get up early, gamers sleep in." Artosis
edgeOut
Profile Joined February 2013
United States945 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-07 12:40:49
March 07 2013 12:39 GMT
#33
On March 07 2013 21:31 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 21:29 edgeOut wrote:
On March 07 2013 21:00 StarVe wrote:
At least now we have an article to link to morons who believe TL writers were simply biased in the Round 1 preview and no one with a clear mind would have thought that EGTL would do well.


When morons understand things better than you, you should know you are blind minded. Calling people morons when they are correct, what does that make you to be?

i really do wonder how many SPL viewers really honestly thought that EG-TL would not do well in PL


So majority on TL was wrong, isn't that the common thing to happen in every corner of our society? Just give credit to minority when they are right, even if that's just a lucky guess. Calling them morons at this point is pretty low.
Fuck you Zealously! For the fuck you give to those players.
ineversmile
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States583 Posts
March 07 2013 12:39 GMT
#34
On March 07 2013 20:51 Seeker wrote:Many people saw EG-TL as a championship contender team and as a threat to KeSPA's strongest teams when the alliance was first announced because of EG-TL's potential.


Many people means biased foreigners and propaganda news articles on TL.net? I'm sorry, did anybody actually think this team was going to go above .500 in PL?
Nostradamus.146@AM, Nostradamus.398@KR, Nostradamus.922@EU http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/ins
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
March 07 2013 12:40 GMT
#35
On March 07 2013 21:18 eviltomahawk wrote:
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On March 07 2013 21:17 Golgotha wrote:
damn idra comeback would be amazing

Idra all-kills CJ.

"When I left you, I was but the learner; now I am the master."

"Only a master of Evil, Grack."


hahaha
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
March 07 2013 12:40 GMT
#36
On March 07 2013 21:39 edgeOut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 21:31 opterown wrote:
On March 07 2013 21:29 edgeOut wrote:
On March 07 2013 21:00 StarVe wrote:
At least now we have an article to link to morons who believe TL writers were simply biased in the Round 1 preview and no one with a clear mind would have thought that EGTL would do well.


When morons understand things better than you, you should know you are blind minded. Calling people morons when they are correct, what does that make you to be?

i really do wonder how many SPL viewers really honestly thought that EG-TL would not do well in PL


So majority was wrong, isn't that the common thing to happen in every corner of our society? Just give credit to minority when they are right, even if that's just a lucky guess.

yeah, but there's no need for the minority to be major dicks about it haha

On March 07 2013 21:39 ineversmile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 20:51 Seeker wrote:Many people saw EG-TL as a championship contender team and as a threat to KeSPA's strongest teams when the alliance was first announced because of EG-TL's potential.


Many people means biased foreigners and propaganda news articles on TL.net? I'm sorry, did anybody actually think this team was going to go above .500 in PL?

i think many people really did expect it
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 07 2013 12:41 GMT
#37
On March 07 2013 21:39 ineversmile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 20:51 Seeker wrote:Many people saw EG-TL as a championship contender team and as a threat to KeSPA's strongest teams when the alliance was first announced because of EG-TL's potential.


Many people means biased foreigners and propaganda news articles on TL.net? I'm sorry, did anybody actually think this team was going to go above .500 in PL?

I thought they'd do ok in the first few rounds and then fade off in the second half. I knew they would struggle against teams with strong protoss though since basically everyone on their team's worst MU is vP it seems except Stephano
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
March 07 2013 12:41 GMT
#38
On March 07 2013 21:13 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 21:07 opterown wrote:
that article was probably less incorrect than the one intrigue wrote about elephants~

Kespa already has 13 spots in Code S.


With Kespa players being seeded into Code S since Kespa moved to SC2 up to now
rasers
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden691 Posts
March 07 2013 12:41 GMT
#39
On March 07 2013 21:36 Nobu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 21:29 edgeOut wrote:
On March 07 2013 21:00 StarVe wrote:
At least now we have an article to link to morons who believe TL writers were simply biased in the Round 1 preview and no one with a clear mind would have thought that EGTL would do well.


When morons understand things better than you, you should know you are blind minded. Calling people morons when they are correct, what does that make you to be?


The thing is that calling out EG-TL at the very beggining was like a blind prediction. The roster looked very good on paper and as the article says, could perfectly be a top 4 team. That things went the wrong way, with TaeJa's injury and some others underperforming (I was really expecting more from HerO), couldn't be really predicted and is what puts the team in the spot they are at the moment.

I don't see how they roster looks very good on paper. Taeja and Hero are the only ones good on paper. Stephano is just average when it comes to Proleague/GSL/OSL format. and the rest is average.
Kanaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark658 Posts
March 07 2013 12:41 GMT
#40
Hopefully TL-EG can turn the boat around again, so the speculation about foreign teams can be brought to shame.
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