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Idra in proleague would be a giant joke.
He shouldn't be allowed to play in the most professional league when he acts like a little kid all the time, and when he's nowhere near good enough to be on that kind of stage.
If they send Idra to proleague, it will be ridiculous, and definitely taking the opportunity away from someone more deserving (basically almost anyone else...).
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On March 07 2013 21:13 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2013 21:07 opterown wrote:
that article was probably less incorrect than the one intrigue wrote about elephants~ Kespa already has 13 spots in Code S.
Might want to reread that article again, he spoke of dominance within months.
On March 07 2013 21:42 Lonyo wrote:
Idra in proleague would be a giant joke.
He shouldn't be allowed to play in the most professional league when he acts like a little kid all the time, and when he's nowhere near good enough to be on that kind of stage.
If they send Idra to proleague, it will be ridiculous, and definitely taking the opportunity away from someone more deserving (basically almost anyone else...).
Idra actually can be very professional when its required.
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On March 07 2013 21:40 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2013 21:39 edgeOut wrote:On March 07 2013 21:31 opterown wrote:On March 07 2013 21:29 edgeOut wrote:On March 07 2013 21:00 StarVe wrote:
At least now we have an article to link to morons who believe TL writers were simply biased in the Round 1 preview and no one with a clear mind would have thought that EGTL would do well. When morons understand things better than you, you should know you are blind minded. Calling people morons when they are correct, what does that make you to be? i really do wonder how many SPL viewers really honestly thought that EG-TL would not do well in PL So majority was wrong, isn't that the common thing to happen in every corner of our society? Just give credit to minority when they are right, even if that's just a lucky guess. yeah, but there's no need for the minority to be major dicks about it haha Show nested quote +On March 07 2013 21:39 ineversmile wrote:On March 07 2013 20:51 Seeker wrote:Many people saw EG-TL as a championship contender team and as a threat to KeSPA's strongest teams when the alliance was first announced because of EG-TL's potential. Many people means biased foreigners and propaganda news articles on TL.net? I'm sorry, did anybody actually think this team was going to go above .500 in PL? i think many people really did expect it
Calling minority morons at this point is dick too, don't you think? Since there are more majority people, so there are more dicks from majority side. Can we minority even defend ourselves?
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opterown
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On March 07 2013 21:41 rasers wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2013 21:36 Nobu wrote:On March 07 2013 21:29 edgeOut wrote:On March 07 2013 21:00 StarVe wrote:
At least now we have an article to link to morons who believe TL writers were simply biased in the Round 1 preview and no one with a clear mind would have thought that EGTL would do well. When morons understand things better than you, you should know you are blind minded. Calling people morons when they are correct, what does that make you to be? The thing is that calling out EG-TL at the very beggining was like a blind prediction. The roster looked very good on paper and as the article says, could perfectly be a top 4 team. That things went the wrong way, with TaeJa's injury and some others underperforming (I was really expecting more from HerO), couldn't be really predicted and is what puts the team in the spot they are at the moment. I don't see how they roster looks very good on paper. Taeja and Hero are the only ones good on paper. Stephano is just average when it comes to Proleague/GSL/OSL format. and the rest is average.
that's the same for, say, SKT (fanta and rain looked good, the rest average) or CJ (only hero was really notable on that team) or khan (roro only notable sc2 palyer before). and taeja/hero were considered generally better than the PL aces at that time.
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On March 07 2013 21:42 Assirra wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2013 21:13 Shellshock1122 wrote:On March 07 2013 21:07 opterown wrote:
that article was probably less incorrect than the one intrigue wrote about elephants~ Kespa already has 13 spots in Code S. Might want to reread that article again, he spoke of dominance within months.
If they did full switch at the moment of that article, they can dominate within months.
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On March 07 2013 21:43 edgeOut wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2013 21:42 Assirra wrote:On March 07 2013 21:13 Shellshock1122 wrote:On March 07 2013 21:07 opterown wrote:
that article was probably less incorrect than the one intrigue wrote about elephants~ Kespa already has 13 spots in Code S. Might want to reread that article again, he spoke of dominance within months. If they did full switch at the moment of that article, they can dominate within months.
When your argument consists of "if" its invalid.
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On March 07 2013 21:43 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2013 21:41 rasers wrote:On March 07 2013 21:36 Nobu wrote:On March 07 2013 21:29 edgeOut wrote:On March 07 2013 21:00 StarVe wrote:
At least now we have an article to link to morons who believe TL writers were simply biased in the Round 1 preview and no one with a clear mind would have thought that EGTL would do well. When morons understand things better than you, you should know you are blind minded. Calling people morons when they are correct, what does that make you to be? The thing is that calling out EG-TL at the very beggining was like a blind prediction. The roster looked very good on paper and as the article says, could perfectly be a top 4 team. That things went the wrong way, with TaeJa's injury and some others underperforming (I was really expecting more from HerO), couldn't be really predicted and is what puts the team in the spot they are at the moment. I don't see how they roster looks very good on paper. Taeja and Hero are the only ones good on paper. Stephano is just average when it comes to Proleague/GSL/OSL format. and the rest is average. that's the same for, say, SKT (fanta and rain looked good, the rest average) or CJ (only hero was really notable on that team) or khan (roro only notable sc2 palyer before). and taeja/hero were considered generally better than the PL aces at that time.
only if u are a SC2 foreigner who is fanobying.
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opterown
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On March 07 2013 21:43 edgeOut wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2013 21:42 Assirra wrote:On March 07 2013 21:13 Shellshock1122 wrote:On March 07 2013 21:07 opterown wrote:
that article was probably less incorrect than the one intrigue wrote about elephants~ Kespa already has 13 spots in Code S. Might want to reread that article again, he spoke of dominance within months. If they did full switch at the moment of that article, they can dominate within months.
if, can, whatever.
On March 07 2013 21:42 edgeOut wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2013 21:40 opterown wrote:On March 07 2013 21:39 edgeOut wrote:On March 07 2013 21:31 opterown wrote:On March 07 2013 21:29 edgeOut wrote:On March 07 2013 21:00 StarVe wrote:
At least now we have an article to link to morons who believe TL writers were simply biased in the Round 1 preview and no one with a clear mind would have thought that EGTL would do well. When morons understand things better than you, you should know you are blind minded. Calling people morons when they are correct, what does that make you to be? i really do wonder how many SPL viewers really honestly thought that EG-TL would not do well in PL So majority was wrong, isn't that the common thing to happen in every corner of our society? Just give credit to minority when they are right, even if that's just a lucky guess. yeah, but there's no need for the minority to be major dicks about it haha On March 07 2013 21:39 ineversmile wrote:On March 07 2013 20:51 Seeker wrote:Many people saw EG-TL as a championship contender team and as a threat to KeSPA's strongest teams when the alliance was first announced because of EG-TL's potential. Many people means biased foreigners and propaganda news articles on TL.net? I'm sorry, did anybody actually think this team was going to go above .500 in PL? i think many people really did expect it Calling minority morons at this point is dick too, don't you think? Since there are more majority people, so there are more dicks from majority side. Can we minority even defend ourselves?
sure, if said minority weren't dicks about it, then they wouldn't be considered morons. it makes the experience of PL and LR threads rather toxic
On March 07 2013 21:44 rasers wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2013 21:43 opterown wrote:On March 07 2013 21:41 rasers wrote:On March 07 2013 21:36 Nobu wrote:On March 07 2013 21:29 edgeOut wrote:On March 07 2013 21:00 StarVe wrote:
At least now we have an article to link to morons who believe TL writers were simply biased in the Round 1 preview and no one with a clear mind would have thought that EGTL would do well. When morons understand things better than you, you should know you are blind minded. Calling people morons when they are correct, what does that make you to be? The thing is that calling out EG-TL at the very beggining was like a blind prediction. The roster looked very good on paper and as the article says, could perfectly be a top 4 team. That things went the wrong way, with TaeJa's injury and some others underperforming (I was really expecting more from HerO), couldn't be really predicted and is what puts the team in the spot they are at the moment. I don't see how they roster looks very good on paper. Taeja and Hero are the only ones good on paper. Stephano is just average when it comes to Proleague/GSL/OSL format. and the rest is average. that's the same for, say, SKT (fanta and rain looked good, the rest average) or CJ (only hero was really notable on that team) or khan (roro only notable sc2 palyer before). and taeja/hero were considered generally better than the PL aces at that time. only if u are a SC2 foreigner who is fanobying.
easy to say in hindsight lol
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JYP and HerO best records for EG-TL in Proleague?
Let's direct all of our hate towards JYP because he's a terrible player and bash HerO for getting nervous in every LR thread.
Gotta love the community.
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On March 07 2013 21:45 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2013 21:43 edgeOut wrote:On March 07 2013 21:42 Assirra wrote:On March 07 2013 21:13 Shellshock1122 wrote:On March 07 2013 21:07 opterown wrote:
that article was probably less incorrect than the one intrigue wrote about elephants~ Kespa already has 13 spots in Code S. Might want to reread that article again, he spoke of dominance within months. If they did full switch at the moment of that article, they can dominate within months. if, can, whatever. Show nested quote +On March 07 2013 21:42 edgeOut wrote:On March 07 2013 21:40 opterown wrote:On March 07 2013 21:39 edgeOut wrote:On March 07 2013 21:31 opterown wrote:On March 07 2013 21:29 edgeOut wrote:On March 07 2013 21:00 StarVe wrote:
At least now we have an article to link to morons who believe TL writers were simply biased in the Round 1 preview and no one with a clear mind would have thought that EGTL would do well. When morons understand things better than you, you should know you are blind minded. Calling people morons when they are correct, what does that make you to be? i really do wonder how many SPL viewers really honestly thought that EG-TL would not do well in PL So majority was wrong, isn't that the common thing to happen in every corner of our society? Just give credit to minority when they are right, even if that's just a lucky guess. yeah, but there's no need for the minority to be major dicks about it haha On March 07 2013 21:39 ineversmile wrote:On March 07 2013 20:51 Seeker wrote:Many people saw EG-TL as a championship contender team and as a threat to KeSPA's strongest teams when the alliance was first announced because of EG-TL's potential. Many people means biased foreigners and propaganda news articles on TL.net? I'm sorry, did anybody actually think this team was going to go above .500 in PL? i think many people really did expect it Calling minority morons at this point is dick too, don't you think? Since there are more majority people, so there are more dicks from majority side. Can we minority even defend ourselves? sure, if said minority weren't dicks about it, then they wouldn't be considered morons. it makes the experience of PL and LR threads rather toxic Show nested quote +On March 07 2013 21:44 rasers wrote:On March 07 2013 21:43 opterown wrote:On March 07 2013 21:41 rasers wrote:On March 07 2013 21:36 Nobu wrote:On March 07 2013 21:29 edgeOut wrote:On March 07 2013 21:00 StarVe wrote:
At least now we have an article to link to morons who believe TL writers were simply biased in the Round 1 preview and no one with a clear mind would have thought that EGTL would do well. When morons understand things better than you, you should know you are blind minded. Calling people morons when they are correct, what does that make you to be? The thing is that calling out EG-TL at the very beggining was like a blind prediction. The roster looked very good on paper and as the article says, could perfectly be a top 4 team. That things went the wrong way, with TaeJa's injury and some others underperforming (I was really expecting more from HerO), couldn't be really predicted and is what puts the team in the spot they are at the moment. I don't see how they roster looks very good on paper. Taeja and Hero are the only ones good on paper. Stephano is just average when it comes to Proleague/GSL/OSL format. and the rest is average. that's the same for, say, SKT (fanta and rain looked good, the rest average) or CJ (only hero was really notable on that team) or khan (roro only notable sc2 palyer before). and taeja/hero were considered generally better than the PL aces at that time. only if u are a SC2 foreigner who is fanobying. easy to say in hindsight lol
nah if you actually watch the games and not just look at the stats you can actually see how good they are. and yes everyone would say EG-TL had the better aces (cause Taeja aund Hero actually showed that they can play in a PL format where u prepare for some time). but the average players are far superior for the Kespa players. cause they actually prepare for proleague.
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Northern Ireland26967 Posts
On March 07 2013 21:43 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2013 21:41 rasers wrote:On March 07 2013 21:36 Nobu wrote:On March 07 2013 21:29 edgeOut wrote:On March 07 2013 21:00 StarVe wrote:
At least now we have an article to link to morons who believe TL writers were simply biased in the Round 1 preview and no one with a clear mind would have thought that EGTL would do well. When morons understand things better than you, you should know you are blind minded. Calling people morons when they are correct, what does that make you to be? The thing is that calling out EG-TL at the very beggining was like a blind prediction. The roster looked very good on paper and as the article says, could perfectly be a top 4 team. That things went the wrong way, with TaeJa's injury and some others underperforming (I was really expecting more from HerO), couldn't be really predicted and is what puts the team in the spot they are at the moment. I don't see how they roster looks very good on paper. Taeja and Hero are the only ones good on paper. Stephano is just average when it comes to Proleague/GSL/OSL format. and the rest is average. that's the same for, say, SKT (fanta and rain looked good, the rest average) or CJ (only hero was really notable on that team) or khan (roro only notable sc2 palyer before). and taeja/hero were considered generally better than the PL aces at that time.
Stop with your logic.
Hero and Taeja, multiple LAN winners, both have made GSL Ro4s.
Prior to some of the breakouts of other players, at a time where Kespa players were struggling to do anything in GSL it would be retarded NOT to give EGTL credit for that, at least on paper.
As time has gone on, certain previous unknown Kespa players have shown good chops, and that assessment has needed re-evaluated. However at the time, perfectly fine assessment. Anything else would have been baseless conjecture
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On March 07 2013 21:41 TeeTS wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2013 21:13 Shellshock1122 wrote:On March 07 2013 21:07 opterown wrote:
that article was probably less incorrect than the one intrigue wrote about elephants~ Kespa already has 13 spots in Code S. With Kespa players being seeded into Code S since Kespa moved to SC2 up to now 
i wonder if those excuses will end when roro rapes symbol to become a gsl champion for kespa.
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what does LR stand for? been wondering for months
Does EG-TL have a team house and coach? If not that probably explains things
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United States97276 Posts
On March 07 2013 21:48 Zrana wrote:
what does LR stand for? been wondering for months
Does EG-TL have a team house and coach? If not that probably explains things
Live Report
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Northern Ireland26967 Posts
On March 07 2013 21:48 rj rl wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2013 21:41 TeeTS wrote:On March 07 2013 21:13 Shellshock1122 wrote:On March 07 2013 21:07 opterown wrote:
that article was probably less incorrect than the one intrigue wrote about elephants~ Kespa already has 13 spots in Code S. With Kespa players being seeded into Code S since Kespa moved to SC2 up to now i wonder if those excuses will end when roro rapes symbol to become a gsl champion for kespa.
Exacty the kind of obnoxious crap. Respect good play, why turn it into a Kespa vs the rest pissing contest?
Rain's breakout showed me some of the best Protoss play I have yet seen, alas he has fallen off a bit. However, the Kespa players have done NOTHING to show they will 'dominate'. Compete yes, perhaps be the best players in general, but they're not going to destroy everyone.
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On March 07 2013 21:48 rj rl wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2013 21:41 TeeTS wrote:On March 07 2013 21:13 Shellshock1122 wrote:On March 07 2013 21:07 opterown wrote:
that article was probably less incorrect than the one intrigue wrote about elephants~ Kespa already has 13 spots in Code S. With Kespa players being seeded into Code S since Kespa moved to SC2 up to now i wonder if those excuses will end when roro rapes symbol to become a gsl champion for kespa.
well eventually a kespa player would have won, it's just a bit later than some expected (or hoped)
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I think I'm going crazy. I keep thinking that everything will be all good when IdrA arrives. It sounds crazy when I say it in my head, it sounds crazy when I type it, but I keep thinking it.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Just what EGTL, i know lets send in IdrA...
Ah well, i will be very interested how the KESPA players do in HOTS so i will make sure i watch EGTL.
AMAZING NEWS, that Benjy is going though :O would be absolute sick if that is right :D
+ Show Spoiler +I guess Ben and IdrA are going to go over there now as they are both out of MLG (Ben is out as he didn't even get a qualifier spot, i was told the reason why but i have forgot) and not in IEM, no reason to stay in NA and just train when they can go to Korea for a month and hit the SPL up for better practice
How rude of me. Thanks for the translation on this interview Seeker it's very good!
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United Kingdom14103 Posts
On March 07 2013 21:51 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2013 21:48 rj rl wrote:On March 07 2013 21:41 TeeTS wrote:On March 07 2013 21:13 Shellshock1122 wrote:On March 07 2013 21:07 opterown wrote:
that article was probably less incorrect than the one intrigue wrote about elephants~ Kespa already has 13 spots in Code S. With Kespa players being seeded into Code S since Kespa moved to SC2 up to now i wonder if those excuses will end when roro rapes symbol to become a gsl champion for kespa. Exacty the kind of obnoxious crap. Respect good play, why turn it into a Kespa vs the rest pissing contest? Rain's breakout showed me some of the best Protoss play I have yet seen, alas he has fallen off a bit. However, the Kespa players have done NOTHING to show they will 'dominate'. Compete yes, perhaps be the best players in general, but they're not going to destroy everyone.
This I can agree with, the kespa players haven't dominated like people thought they would, what they have done however is competed on even ground in some places with the rest of the SC2 scene.
I'm actually rooting for roro this GSL, I want a kespa winner.
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On March 07 2013 21:24 Serimek wrote:
Only Stephano above 50%. Not something I was expecting at all before SPL started...
Its kinda hard to make a point with player stats. they dont all share the sample size. Huk has 2 losses but that doesnt mean he is the worst player in PL you need to have bigger sample size to determine whos the best
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