EPTEG-TL: From Heaven to Hell - Page 11
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rift
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Mongolbonjwa
Finland376 Posts
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Kaoriyu
Canada276 Posts
Evil GeniusesiamlectR 51 points 4 days ago Change is coming to EG-TL soon, folks. We're not happy at all with how it has been managed. There will be some news here soon. http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/19mqtm/sowhere_is_egtl_failing_in_sc2pl/c8pie5u | ||
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Kaitokid
Germany1327 Posts
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opterown
Australia54785 Posts
On March 09 2013 15:36 Kaitokid wrote: am I the only one who thinks EGTL actually performs better than expected? I think they are doing pretty damn good considering they have to play vs the best players. yeah, you're easily one of the very very few who have that opinion haha | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46579 Posts
On March 09 2013 15:27 Mongolbonjwa wrote: Ratio is not percentage. Ratio is number like 1,5. For an example, if your stats are 3 wins and 2 losses then your winratio is 1,5 If your win:loss ratio is 3:2, then you've won 3/5 of your games, or 60% of them. You don't say you've won 3/2 or 1.5 (or 150%) of your games, as the most you could win would be 100% (all of them). You're mixing up part : whole with part : part. A ratio shows a relationship between two numbers. Fractions can be written as percentages too, or equivalent decimals technically, but you usually do not depict a ratio of two numbers as a decimal. You generally depict the ratio as a fraction, because that clearly shows the two numbers you're comparing. | ||
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Wrathsc2
United States2025 Posts
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Mongolbonjwa
Finland376 Posts
On March 09 2013 15:43 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: If your win:loss ratio is 3:2, then you've won 3/5 of your games, or 60% of them. You don't say you've won 3/2 or 1.5 (or 150%) of your games, as the most you could win would be 100% (all of them). You're mixing up part : whole with part : part. A ratio shows a relationship between two numbers. Fractions can be written as percentages too, or equivalent decimals technically, but you usually do not depict a ratio of two numbers as a decimal. You generally depict the ratio as a fraction, because that clearly shows the two numbers you're comparing. Win percentage/win rate and ratio are totally different things. Also, ratio is often depicted as a decimal instead of fraction. (for an example, win/loss ratio) | ||
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LimeNade
United States2125 Posts
On March 09 2013 15:43 Wrathsc2 wrote: i have a feeling they just arent playing as much as they should be.. Well from everything that has come out I am pretty confident to say you are wrong. Now as to whether the practice environment is a healthy one promoting of good play I dunno as interviews from players that have come out lately seem a bit sketchy. But it does seem like they are playing 8-10 hours a day but then again playing 8-10 hours and being in a bad environment emotionally is just like not practicing at all. | ||
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opterown
Australia54785 Posts
On March 09 2013 15:49 Mongolbonjwa wrote: Win percentage/win rate and ratio are totally different things. a ratio involves two numbers, so you cannot represent it as a single decimal 1.5 could mean 36:24 or 100:50 or 3:2 or whatever | ||
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Mongolbonjwa
Finland376 Posts
On March 09 2013 15:53 opterown wrote: a ratio involves two numbers, so you cannot represent it as a single decimal 1.5 could mean 36:24 or 100:50 or 3:2 or whatever Ratio is the relation between two numbers, in this case wins and losses and it can be represented as a single decimal. Like I said, ratio is not same as win rate. As it is in the OP, the "ratio" is used 100% incorrectly. EDIT: apparently the OP changed the choice of word. | ||
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Dansickle
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On March 09 2013 15:36 Kaoriyu wrote: Apparently there are big changes coming to EG-TL soon: Taken from reddit. http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/19mqtm/sowhere_is_egtl_failing_in_sc2pl/c8pie5u I was looking to see if they had said what they did yet, but I guess not. It's a good one, though. | ||
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opterown
Australia54785 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46579 Posts
On March 09 2013 15:49 Mongolbonjwa wrote: Win percentage/win rate and ratio are totally different things. Also, ratio is often depicted as a decimal instead of fraction. (for an example, win/loss ratio) I'm sorry, but you're completely incorrect. The central difference between percentage and ratio is that ratio still includes both numbers being compared, which is why it does not generally use decimals. Definition of 'Win/Loss Ratio' A ratio of the total number of winning trades to the number of losing trades. It does not take into account how much was won or lost simply if they were winners or losers. Win/Loss Ratio = Winning Trades : Losing Trades The win/loss ratio is also known as the "success ratio". Investopedia explains 'Win/Loss Ratio' For example, if you made 30 trades and of them 12 were winners 18 were losers, your win/loss ratio would be 2:3. Your probability of success would be 40%. ~http://www.investopedia.com/terms/w/win-loss-ratio.asp#axzz2N1USq3DA 3 Examples 3.1 Fraction 4 Number of terms 4.1 Percentage ratio The ratio of numbers A and B can be expressed as:[4] the ratio of A to B A is to B A:B A fraction (rational number) that is the quotient of A divided by B ~http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratio Notice how these are written as percents and fractions. You could depict them as the equivalent decimal, but they're almost always going to be less than 100% for reasons previously stated. | ||
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Mongolbonjwa
Finland376 Posts
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Daswollvieh
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On March 09 2013 16:15 Daswollvieh wrote: Coaches gonna get fired for inability to create and maintain a productive training atmosphere and team spirit. Hold the phone there bucko. I wouldn't blame Hwanni or Park for whatever expectations you might have had. Unfortunately to change the philosophy you sort of have to reflect back on what it is that the essence of the team stands for. Marketing their players and live streaming. You can only do so much with what's given to you and don't complain about the line-up. Enough excuses. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On March 09 2013 16:34 Mohdoo wrote: The problem is definitely the coach. Players going so far as to complain shows a lot of problems. It takes a lot to actually complain on Twitter about internal affairs. Regardless if it is the coach's fault or not, that kinda atmosphere has to change, which means a new coach. How about changing the entire philosophy of the frigging team? Sorry, but you guys are really looking for a scapegoat. The EG marketing machine will press forward. | ||
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Roman666
Poland1440 Posts
On March 09 2013 15:55 Mongolbonjwa wrote: Ratio is the relation between two numbers, in this case wins and losses and it can be represented as a single decimal. Like I said, ratio is not same as win rate. As it is in the OP, the "ratio" is used 100% incorrectly. EDIT: apparently the OP changed the choice of word. Show me a real life example of where someone would depict ratio as a single decimal. It makes no sense to do that, because doing so you lose a lot of information. 1.5 may mean, for example, 150:100. Also you say that when you have 3 wins and 2 loses your winratio is 1.5. This is what I call a semantical abuse. It is not winratio, it is win:lose ratio. | ||
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