Probably the same people that demanded an apology from Choya for winning
can you explain the story please
I believe that was me you quoted. The story is apparently during the GSTL preseason Korean Netizens were angry at the FXO players for all inning Prime in a couple of the games to get wins instead of showing off HoTS units and Choya ended up apologizing for his team winning that way. Khaldor was pretty upset about it.
oh yeah btw my comment on the first page about kespa having 13 players in code s already was just a joke with opterown I know it's not what the article was saying
Questions here. I didn't know Korean netizens were angry at the outcome, but to put another spin on it, even when this is indeed the preseason for GSTL HOTS, why such anger towards the all-ins?
I've seen the arguments for "you have to earn your right to use X or Y unit", so I'm a little confused on the reasoning behind the anger? Also - isn't FXO a team which is dangerous because you just never know what to expect? They might be doing a standard macro game, or they might be sneaking a proxy...does that not make for more dangerous, risky games?
Was Khaldor upset due to the controversy, or was he upset because of how the games turned out?
Because it's not a serious team league, and it was a chance for the fans to see how great HOTS could be before release. Instead FXO ruined the fun by "being try hards".
On March 08 2013 05:25 InsidiA wrote: JYP's stats. No one expected that tbf.
Except anyone who actually looked at them before mindlessly and idiotically bashing a player that hasas always had one of the best records on the team.
On March 08 2013 02:58 Aveng3r wrote: Im rapidly losing interest in the pro scene, because my favorite "foreign" teams are now dominated by koreans. That picture had exactly one person who isnt korean I used to really like EG for guys like Idra, incontrol, demuslim, etc. but now chearing for them means im really just cheering for the koreans on the squad. Im becoming a bigger and bigger supporter of ROOT as I go.
But the best players on ROOT are Korean aswell.
Yeah, but they arent dominated by Koreans the way EG and TL sometimes seem to be
Because you haven't seen them play more than one game in a team league from what I can recall.
Over time, Sage will probably have the best results by far, like Taeja for TL.
Probably the same people that demanded an apology from Choya for winning
can you explain the story please
I believe that was me you quoted. The story is apparently during the GSTL preseason Korean Netizens were angry at the FXO players for all inning Prime in a couple of the games to get wins instead of showing off HoTS units and Choya ended up apologizing for his team winning that way. Khaldor was pretty upset about it.
oh yeah btw my comment on the first page about kespa having 13 players in code s already was just a joke with opterown I know it's not what the article was saying
Questions here. I didn't know Korean netizens were angry at the outcome, but to put another spin on it, even when this is indeed the preseason for GSTL HOTS, why such anger towards the all-ins?
I've seen the arguments for "you have to earn your right to use X or Y unit", so I'm a little confused on the reasoning behind the anger? Also - isn't FXO a team which is dangerous because you just never know what to expect? They might be doing a standard macro game, or they might be sneaking a proxy...does that not make for more dangerous, risky games?
Was Khaldor upset due to the controversy, or was he upset because of how the games turned out?
Because it's not a serious team league, and it was a chance for the fans to see how great HOTS could be before release. Instead FXO ruined the fun by "being try hards".
On March 08 2013 08:24 Sumahi wrote: My poor Fantasy PL team. It was filled with EG-TL players who have seriously underperformed. I'm afraid to check on its progress.
You missed two rounds already and got around #4300 out of 5800 players in the first one.
On March 07 2013 21:08 revy wrote: People are so whiny. EGTL is doing better than Ace at least! Though Ace did steadily improve over the years.
Comparing them to a team that only contained players past their prime who had very limited practice hours isn't exactly the greatest compliment you could give them.
On March 08 2013 08:24 Sumahi wrote: My poor Fantasy PL team. It was filled with EG-TL players who have seriously underperformed. I'm afraid to check on its progress.
You missed two rounds already and got around #4300 out of 5800 players in the first one.
On March 08 2013 05:58 mrRoflpwn wrote: Lol, I love how they say maybe by switchign uip the foreigners they can win- ya right, Idra and demuslim can barely compete at an NA level- nobody in their right mind is expecting them to win even a single game in proleague.
Although DeMusliM is competent I wholeheartedly agree that he's going to have a really difficult time in Proleague considering ThorZain's results.
IdrA on the other hand you can never underestimate. He's been playing HOTS for a very very very long time now and will probably have the most understanding of the game in the first rounds. That and never forget that he is IdrA. The guy Koreans respect, the guy who's been on a CJ and worn their uniform, who knows how important Proleague is. He is always relevant and always an asset not dead weight.
Hmm no, as much as i love idra for the hilarity he brings to the scene, if you watch him stream his play is very uninspiring; he always seems to be a few months behind everyone else in the metagame and i think he's have trouble in hots as he'll have to wait for korean zergs to figure out what to do and then copy them.
Idra has all but come out as said that he only messes around when he streams. Like Grubby, he has streaming builds that he does and are pretty neutral as to his play style. But you are right that he has trouble being creative and is not good at inventing builds. Still I would think the Proleague format would be suit him well, since it is all about that one game.
The style might suit him better but the skill isn't there. He might not take streaming seriously but I have to imagine he took his match against minigun seriously considering what was on the line and he looked utterly awful in that series against a player who is definitely not proleague caliber.
On March 08 2013 05:58 mrRoflpwn wrote: Lol, I love how they say maybe by switchign uip the foreigners they can win- ya right, Idra and demuslim can barely compete at an NA level- nobody in their right mind is expecting them to win even a single game in proleague.
Although DeMusliM is competent I wholeheartedly agree that he's going to have a really difficult time in Proleague considering ThorZain's results.
IdrA on the other hand you can never underestimate. He's been playing HOTS for a very very very long time now and will probably have the most understanding of the game in the first rounds. That and never forget that he is IdrA. The guy Koreans respect, the guy who's been on a CJ and worn their uniform, who knows how important Proleague is. He is always relevant and always an asset not dead weight.
Hmm no, as much as i love idra for the hilarity he brings to the scene, if you watch him stream his play is very uninspiring; he always seems to be a few months behind everyone else in the metagame and i think he's have trouble in hots as he'll have to wait for korean zergs to figure out what to do and then copy them.
Idra has all but come out as said that he only messes around when he streams. Like Grubby, he has streaming builds that he does and are pretty neutral as to his play style. But you are right that he has trouble being creative and is not good at inventing builds. Still I would think the Proleague format would be suit him well, since it is all about that one game.
He got 0-3ed by Minigun, and his play really was not inspiring at all. Considering that this was a pretty important tournament match (winner gets a spot at MLG Dallas), he definitely would be giving it his all. It's setting oneself up for disappointment if one hopes that Idra can be the one who turns EGTL around in PL.
On March 08 2013 05:58 mrRoflpwn wrote: Lol, I love how they say maybe by switchign uip the foreigners they can win- ya right, Idra and demuslim can barely compete at an NA level- nobody in their right mind is expecting them to win even a single game in proleague.
Although DeMusliM is competent I wholeheartedly agree that he's going to have a really difficult time in Proleague considering ThorZain's results.
IdrA on the other hand you can never underestimate. He's been playing HOTS for a very very very long time now and will probably have the most understanding of the game in the first rounds. That and never forget that he is IdrA. The guy Koreans respect, the guy who's been on a CJ and worn their uniform, who knows how important Proleague is. He is always relevant and always an asset not dead weight.
Hmm no, as much as i love idra for the hilarity he brings to the scene, if you watch him stream his play is very uninspiring; he always seems to be a few months behind everyone else in the metagame and i think he's have trouble in hots as he'll have to wait for korean zergs to figure out what to do and then copy them.
Idra has all but come out as said that he only messes around when he streams. Like Grubby, he has streaming builds that he does and are pretty neutral as to his play style. But you are right that he has trouble being creative and is not good at inventing builds. Still I would think the Proleague format would be suit him well, since it is all about that one game.
He got 0-3ed by Minigun, and his play really was not inspiring at all. Considering that this was a pretty important tournament match (winner gets a spot at MLG Dallas), he definitely would be giving it his all. It's setting oneself up for disappointment if one hopes that Idra can be the one who turns EGTL around in PL.
But he got a moral victory in one game against morrow
If this article was right about IdrA playing in SPL, I'm so happy. I love me some Gracken. Even have his T-Shirt! Too bad EGTL is last. I thought they were going to do some stompage. Wonder how a team like LG-IM or ST would do in proleague.
EGTL made me sad ins so many ways, yeah... such a big disappointment really hope they're able to come back or something. We were talking about it in irc and perhaps even a change in coaching staff (along the lines of what some of the korean teams have done in the past iirc?) would be in line. Best of luck to them.
On March 08 2013 06:15 Neptuneajax wrote: Look at how quickly the Kespa pros got good at SC2 in general. Like within 6 months they came from a totally different game to dominating established pro with 2-3 years experience. Why do people think an expansion with a few new rules here and there is going to change anything? Kespa players will continue to dominate and ESF players will slowly fall by the wayside to these superior gamers. Not that I want this to happen of course but in reality I honestly think that in a year's time we will be saying..."Taeja, who?"
You know that either 6months or 2-3years are basically the same right? Or do the Kespa players have to play all the way back to 5rax reaper on jungle basin and work their way up to the current state of the game?
Bad argument. In BW no one got a chance to play in the A-team without at least a couple of years in the B-team. And that is even after having played the game many hours per day many years to be picked up by a team as a trainee. You needed that time to get your fundamentals going.
On March 08 2013 16:19 RagequitBM wrote: If this article was right about IdrA playing in SPL, I'm so happy. I love me some Gracken. Even have his T-Shirt! Too bad EGTL is last. I thought they were going to do some stompage. Wonder how a team like LG-IM or ST would do in proleague.
EPT
I know it's not what the article was saying
really hope they're able to come back or something. We were talking about it in irc and perhaps even a change in coaching staff (along the lines of what some of the korean teams have done in the past iirc?) would be in line. Best of luck to them.
